Albino burms in the wild?

Has anyone ever heard of a wild albino burm making it into adult hood in the wild and being captured? And if so is there any pics around of wild albino burms with some size to them? Reason im asking is I believe the sun fades out there pattern over time. Alot of the albino burms in florida being pulled out of the wild are almost completly white. With very faded yellow lines and I was just wondering if this could possibly be from being out in the sun or if its just a new color morph.

Never seen one.

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Originally Posted by Denial

Alot of the albino burms in florida being pulled out of the wild are almost completly white. With very faded yellow lines and I was just wondering if this could possibly be from being out in the sun or if its just a new color morph.

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What albino burms are being pulled out of the wild in florida?

yes and there pattern almost has no yellow in it at all. And everytime I see one someone in florida has one. BUt I didnt think an albino would last that long in the wild

The ones in Florida are probably big when they're realeased, can gators see color? If not I guess it wouldn't matter and that's really the only thing that could take them

As for actual wild ones I have no clue

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Originally Posted by Denial

yes and there pattern almost has no yellow in it at all. And everytime I see one someone in florida has one. BUt I didnt think an albino would last that long in the wild

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I haven't heard of any wild albino burms being pulled out. Seems like everytime they pull one out its a normal. The hardest part about them being albino is when they are growing up. Once they reach adulthood it doesn't matter nothing is really going to mess with them.

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Originally Posted by oswhiteboy

I haven't heard of any wild albino burms being pulled out. Seems like everytime they pull one out its a normal. The hardest part about them being albino is when they are growing up. Once they reach adulthood it doesn't matter nothing is really going to mess with them.

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There certainly were albinos caught, there was an importer over here in the UK offering WC florida burms for sale, normals and albinos.:rofl:

Sorry to the OP though, i've no pictures.

There was a episode of monster hunters i think were they were looking for evdice of brums eating cats and dogs(im not sure if it was that by the way). They set up camaras every were and if im not mistaken they got a pic of a full grown albino brum but it still looked like a albino and did not look faded.

Please don't base any real life anything on the show Monster Hunters. That show is so fake it's not funny.
If anyone has caught albino burms in the everglades, i certainly haven't seen it yet.

If I am not mistaken one of the original lines of albino's that Bob Clark had were WC many yrs ago now and most albino burms here in the states are related to it in one way or another. Bob doesnt have a forum anymore but I am sure you could find his home page and contact him and ask him questions . He is a great guy to talk to.

I was talking to Greg Graziani, Michael Cole and Shawn Heflick at Daytona this past weekend about the python hunt in the Everglades. They are the original three that have been approved to hunt them and have been going down weekly to do so.

If I recall correctly (it was Daytona remember and lots was going on in the evenings ;)) all three said that the only burms pulled out so far were normals. No albinos.

Jonathan Shoemaker has caught an albino in florida.

The video on YouTube with the "animal wrangler" who happens on a albino across a road, with his cameras just happening to be in front of him.. then he leaps out as if he's just spotted it? Yeah.. check out the Sasquatch in my kitchen too.

With all the legitimate video and pictures of burms caught in the Everglades, I haven't seen any that were albino.

I believe that it is very possible for albino burms to exsist in the Evergaldes. After all many that were released had to be albinos. However, if think of it this way, when they breed in the wild (one specimen happens to be normal and the other albino) all the offspring come out either normal or het albino (all offspring look normal. When the hets reproduce and produce an albino, the likely hood of that albinos survival is very slim. I think there is atleast 1 or2 adult albinos out there.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

The video on YouTube with the "animal wrangler" who happens on a albino across a road, with his cameras just happening to be in front of him.. then he leaps out as if he's just spotted it? Yeah.. check out the Sasquatch in my kitchen too.

With all the legitimate video and pictures of burms caught in the Everglades, I haven't seen any that were albino.

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im not talking about just in the everglades and if you ask me I think most sighting in florida are "staged" But that albino burm he got is not a normal looking albino burm and they have been showing up more and more in florida and I think it has something to do with being in the natural sunlight all day fading out the pattern.

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Originally Posted by Denial

im not talking about just in the everglades and if you ask me I think most sighting in florida are "staged" But that albino burm he got is not a normal looking albino burm and they have been showing up more and more in florida and I think it has something to do with being in the natural sunlight all day fading out the pattern.

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Where are you hearing that albino burms are "showing up more and more in florida?" I live here and haven't seen it in the news or heard it from other herpers. If someone is saying that, I'd like to know so I can check it out. . .

im not saying its an everyday occurance im just saying they have been found in the wild in florida. Im sure theres a ton of people that live in florida that do not even know what a burmese python is.

This right here is what im talking about. I keep seeing more and more people with this color burm and for some reason everyone that owns one that I have seen is located in florida. And noone can tell me any genetic history of the animals or anything. I spoke to this guy and it was a rescue that was found in florida.

http://www.burmesepythonforums.com//...ad.php?tid=992


I have seen these show up every once in a while but from what Ive been told this has been around for a while so if it was genetic I would think it would of already been proven.

That thread he says it was found in an alley. That means nothing as far as "wild". Not even feral.

If you're asking if breeders in florida have a certain type of albino, that's one thing. But saying you're hearing about all these albinos being wild caught in florida is another thing. If you've heard of wild caught albinos in florida, we'd like to see where you're hearing it. I live here.

it was found in an alley in florida. I dont think its a new morph I just think its something that happens to albinos in the wild when they come into direct sunlight. And coming from the newsreporters you guys should be able to walk outside and pick up a burm anywhere you look. Your senator seems to believe you have 100,000 so they shouldnt be to hard to find!

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Originally Posted by mason

There certainly were albinos caught, there was an importer over here in the UK offering WC florida burms for sale, normals and albinos.:rofl:

Sorry to the OP though, i've no pictures.

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Mason do you know the name of the importer with the wild albinos? Id like to ask him if he has seen any of these with the faded out pattern

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Originally Posted by Shawn

If I am not mistaken one of the original lines of albino's that Bob Clark had were WC many yrs ago now and most albino burms here in the states are related to it in one way or another. Bob doesnt have a forum anymore but I am sure you could find his home page and contact him and ask him questions . He is a great guy to talk to.

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I sent bob a message thanks shawn

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Originally Posted by Denial

And coming from the newsreporters you guys should be able to walk outside and pick up a burm anywhere you look. Your senator seems to believe you have 100,000 so they shouldnt be to hard to find!

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Yeah, if you believe politicians.. you have some wrong ideas there. I have yet to see a report of a WC albino burmese in florida.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Yeah, if you believe politicians.. you have some wrong ideas there. I have yet to see a report of a WC albino burmese in florida.

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I was being sarcastic my friend.

I figured you were, but other readers might think "Oh.. he believes that politician.." and that would be bad. No one should believe politicians! It makes your brain fall out of your ears!

I completly agree

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

I figured you were, but other readers might think "Oh.. he believes that politician.." and that would be bad. No one should believe politicians! It makes your brain fall out of your ears!

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I heard is also make your babies be born naked. Just throwin that out there.

i saw that one of those high white burms with that faded pattern is for sale on kingsnake, to me without the genetics proven it stays a normal albino burm but its for sale as a ''reverse pattern'' burm???? and 5K?!?!

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=707311

regards ''jp''

I believe that burm was at the atlanta show for 1200

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Originally Posted by jp-reptiles

i saw that one of those high white burms with that faded pattern is for sale on kingsnake, to me without the genetics proven it stays a normal albino burm but its for sale as a ''reverse pattern'' burm???? and 5K?!?!

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=707311

regards ''jp''

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You can see towards the head the orange markings are still somewhat in the pattern. Now I think the longer they are in the sun the more it fades out that orange color leaving a white snake.

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Originally Posted by Denial

You can see towards the head the orange markings are still somewhat in the pattern. Now I think the longer they are in the sun the more it fades out that orange color leaving a white snake.

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if thats the case it is a real expensive snake without carrying any special genetics, i like its appearance very much but would never pay 5k and not even 1200 dollar as you say, it is weird that more of those high white albino's are seen lately, maybe you are wright on your theory.....

regards ''jp''

Its all in what a person thinks its worth. There are collectors that may pay that price for it. But for these things to just start showing up out of the blue like this and more and more people getting there hands on them you would think they would be proven or disproven by now. Because everyone I have seen has been an adult or sub adult.