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  • 08-24-2009, 12:04 AM
    armbarvictim
    substrate?
    I am using Aspen but have noticed it gets quite bacteria-ish really quickly. What is perhaps a better solution to this, keep in mind I mist often due to how dry it is where I live in canada.
  • 08-24-2009, 12:20 AM
    tbowman
    Re: substrate?
    Newspaper or paper towels.
  • 08-24-2009, 12:25 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: substrate?
    Cypress mulch. Or switch to a tub :)
  • 08-24-2009, 12:44 AM
    oswhiteboy
    Re: substrate?
    is the tank ventilated enough?? If its not then yes this could cause mold.
  • 08-24-2009, 12:45 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: substrate?
    If you have a tank with a screen lid, I suggest you should cover a little more than half of it with a warm damp towel or a plastic sheet. You could also duct tape the lid. If you use a UTH, duct tape the entire lid and cut out a square maybe 5-6 sq. inches so the snake can breathe. I'm sure this will keep in the humidity when you mist. You also switch over to tubs if you do not use them. They are pretty light weight and great for holding in humidity. Though, you also can switch over to Cypress Mulch (as stated before) because it retains in humidity very well. Also, Coconut Husk and Bark Chips retain in humidity very well too.
  • 08-24-2009, 01:18 AM
    armbarvictim
    Re: substrate?
    a tub isnt an option right now, first of all I hate how they look and second of all I am broke as a joke, I do realize the major upsides like heat and humidity control and ease of use in terms of keeping it clean and such but I cant afford another uth and the tub. It looks like I will try the cyprus mulch bedding. Does it mold as well or?.....
  • 08-24-2009, 01:23 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: substrate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    a tub isnt an option right now, first of all I hate how they look and second of all I am broke as a joke, I do realize the major upsides like heat and humidity control and ease of use in terms of keeping it clean and such but I cant afford another uth and the tub. It looks like I will try the cyprus mulch bedding. Does it mold as well or?.....

    Doesn't mold at all no matter how many times you mist it. Though, it's best to not get it really wet all you need to do is just lightly mist it. And tubs are actually very cheap, and you could also take off the UTH and reuse it but you'd have to be careful when attempting to do so because you could ruin the UTH. There is a thread on here that shows you how to take it off so search the forums. Also, there are tubs that are very clear and you can see in the tub perfectly. I know the look of it isn't nice, but it is a total money saver, I guarantee you.
  • 08-24-2009, 01:32 AM
    Beto510
    Re: substrate?
    i second tiffany i just made the change and i LOVE it very much :)
  • 08-24-2009, 01:37 AM
    armbarvictim
    Re: substrate?
    oh I dont deny that it is the optimal route but I guess I will see what size I need and how much it would cost. How big does a tub need to be for a 1-2 month old baby?
  • 08-24-2009, 01:43 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: substrate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    oh I dont deny that it is the optimal route but I guess I will see what size I need and how much it would cost. How big does a tub need to be for a 1-2 month old baby?

    I'm not normally clear on tub sizes, but maybe a 12q or 24q (someone correct me if that is too small/big).
  • 08-24-2009, 02:00 AM
    armbarvictim
    Re: substrate?
    so if I got a tub, All I have to do is add some cyprus mulch bedding and the 2 hides,water dish and decor?

    Also wont the under tank heater melt the plastic on a uth or no? It just seems that it would is all.
  • 08-24-2009, 02:02 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: substrate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    so if I got a tub, All I have to do is add some cyprus mulch bedding and the 2 hides,water dish and decor?

    Also wont the under tank heater melt the plastic on a uth or no? It just seems that it would is all.

    If it's controlled by a thermostat or at least a rheostat with the correct temps, I don't think anything could happen to it. Also, you will need to make some holes in the sides and lid so the snake can breathe in the tub but this will not effect the humidity.
  • 08-24-2009, 04:05 AM
    oswhiteboy
    Re: substrate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    oh I dont deny that it is the optimal route but I guess I will see what size I need and how much it would cost. How big does a tub need to be for a 1-2 month old baby?

    It would only cost around 10 dollars for a rubbermaid tub at walmart. I have 2 baby's myself that are in the 1-2 month range and they are in a tub the size of a shoebox.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    so if I got a tub, All I have to do is add some cyprus mulch bedding and the 2 hides,water dish and decor?

    Also wont the under tank heater melt the plastic on a uth or no? It just seems that it would is all.

    I think you are over thinking how to set up the tub. There are no real rules to it. You don't necessarily need to have a water bowl and hide on both sides. These are just recommendations not rules. As long as the snake has heat, humidity, water, and has something to feel safe in then he is happy. Some of my snakes basically live in garbage, newspaper for bedding and cereal boxes for hides. But hey it works and they love it. Have fun with decorating it and don't worry about the "rules" of how you should do it. And no an under the tank heater will not melt your tub. I have the one by exo-terra and I haven't had any problems with it.
  • 08-24-2009, 05:09 AM
    armbarvictim
    Re: substrate?
    yeah your right I seem to be overthinking this a bit, well I guess if you guys say that a tub is that much better perhaps I will try it out.

    Thanks for all the input
  • 08-24-2009, 11:40 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: substrate?
    I use paper towels in my tub setups, it makes cleaning a breeze! I also use two simple hides and a smaller waterbowl. Cypress mulch would probably make the humidity to high in a tub.

    For a baby up to 1 year old, I put them in 15qt tubs. Over that goes in 32qt tubs.
  • 08-24-2009, 12:06 PM
    Haydenphoto
    Re: substrate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    I'm not normally clear on tub sizes, but maybe a 12q or 24q (someone correct me if that is too small/big).

    Mine are 15q and 34q they both fit in my rack its nice to have 2 15q or 1 34q so my baby's ,sub adult and adult fit fine
  • 08-24-2009, 12:09 PM
    Haydenphoto
    Re: substrate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I use paper towels in my tub setups, it makes cleaning a breeze! I also use two simple hides and a smaller waterbowl. Cypress mulch would probably make the humidity to high in a tub.

    For a baby up to 1 year old, I put them in 15qt tubs. Over that goes in 32qt tubs.

    I use Scent free Aspen in all my tubs and have no humidity probs and when its low i just spray it a little work well for me .
  • 08-24-2009, 01:50 PM
    armbarvictim
    Re: substrate?
    well I'm going to try the cyprus in the tank first and see how she goes
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