Could i use a CHE and UTH in my boas enclosure?

im getting a hogg island boa and im ordering a Animalplastics 4x2 cage with screen top and i was wondering if i should use a CHE and overhead incandescent lighting, or a zoomed 30-40 gal heat pad attached to a thermo? or both? please help as i am buying everything today!

best to use ultratherms in larger cages. and if you can keep the room tmep arount 77-78 you wont need a heat lamp for the cool side. i always kept my boas a 77-80 cool side and 88 warm side

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

best to use ultratherms in larger cages. and if you can keep the room tmep arount 77-78 you wont need a heat lamp for the cool side. i always kept my boas a 77-80 cool side and 88 warm side

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but is it possible to use a zoomed heat pad instead? because i dont want to order from 10 diff places. so im just gona order a big zoomed heat pad and a thermostat instead.

yes you can but zoo med is more expensive and dont last as long as ultratherms. I got ultratherms pushing 10 years old and still going.

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

yes you can but zoo med is more expensive and dont last as long as ultratherms. I got ultratherms pushing 10 years old and still going.

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but with ultratherms they are more expensive and i have to buy a thermostat. and they dont get hot enough to put on the outside of the cage.

with larger cages i always put the ultratherms inside the cage sealed down.

Heres some pictures of what i do. And i use Hot glue to glue the thermostat probe to the ultratherm. Just never use tape in the enclosure. I always use hot glue
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...nk/tankUTH.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...anktile003.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...lesdone002.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...k/100_1664.jpg

or could i just use no underbelly heat pads and use a heat light or CHE?

okay so your saying i should buy an ultratherm? i can use my current thermostat. it has one more probe left in it to plug something in.

if you already have a thermostat then yes you can use that one if the t-stat is set the same temp for the boa.

Just zoo med is expensive but good for tanks not cages. Ultratherms are basically felxwatt sealed to be water proof to a degree. I use hot glue to seal it in to stop pee to get under anything. I went through about 2 bags of glue sticks for that cage.

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

if you already have a thermostat then yes you can use that one if the t-stat is set the same temp for the boa.

Just zoo med is expensive but good for tanks not cages. Ultratherms are basically felxwatt sealed to be water proof to a degree. I use hot glue to seal it in to stop pee to get under anything. I went through about 2 bags of glue sticks for that cage.

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okay not to make you mad or anything but this is starting to stress me out. i just am trying to spend the cheepest amount possible and i feel like i wont even have enough for the snake! and i just realized that i dont even know where the heck im going to put the 4 foot cage. i have to buy a rheostat or somehting or i have to think this over whether or not i can do this. im starting to lean towards a ball python now. its rediculous.
okay so this is how my setup is going to be:

-animal plastics cage(4x2x1.5)

-ultratherm heat pad on one side of the cage, glued down on each corner with hot glue, attached to a thermostat or rheostat.

-newspaper

-2 hides
-water bowl


-actual snake(dont even know where the hell im getting it.)

im really starting to lean towards a ball python. i feel like i am going to go broke buying all this crap. the cage is what costs so much and the stupid heating crap is making me mad. i just think there is a chance i will get a ball python instead.

Its a good start. But that big of a cage dont use it for ball pythons. Unless you put in a divider to make it smaller. Other wise get the cage and set it up. Once its the way you like it then get ur snake.

Snakes arent cheap to setup unless your using racks. Cage setups can be pricey.

Telling you, email bob pound at pro products about his panels. They will be the only heat source you need.

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Originally Posted by tbowman

Telling you, email bob pound at pro products about his panels. They will be the only heat source you need.

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Is his price range RHP are out of the question as their 3 tiems more than ultratherms. but if you do go RHP thats all you would need in the cage.

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

Its a good start. But that big of a cage dont use it for ball pythons. Unless you put in a divider to make it smaller. Other wise get the cage and set it up. Once its the way you like it then get ur snake.

Snakes arent cheap to setup unless your using racks. Cage setups can be pricey.

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nonono i mean just not get the huge cage and get a ball python. i have a ball python and im breeding later so im just gona get a ball python. sory for al the trouble.

You know you could get your cage and everything set up and then save up money if you don't have enough and buy the snake.

If you're getting an 09' Hog Island you can house them in rubbermaids for awhile. Just like a ball python. And then maybe like next year get your AP cage and all the goodies.

FOr about 150-200$ you can build a rack for ball pythons. and be set for a while and save up. IDK how much you have to work with but racks are cheap and fun to build.

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FOr about 150-200$ you can build a rack for ball pythons. and be set for a while and save up. IDK how much you have to work with but racks are cheap and fun to build.

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well since my parents said this is my last snake for a while, i am going to get a 20L and not build a rack until i start breeding.

So you're not getting a boa?

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Originally Posted by tbowman

So you're not getting a boa?

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no