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  • 08-23-2009, 12:34 PM
    h00blah
    quick question on genetics
    EDIT: just read the title, and sry its not so "quick"

    out of curiosity:
    if u breed albino (or any other recessive) to a norm, u would produce norms 100% het for albino: correct?

    if u breed albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms and 25% 66 or 50% het for albino: please clarify @_@

    if u breed het albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms, and 25% norm 66% het for albino: correct?

    if u breed albino to albino, u would produce albinos and norms 100% het for albino: correct?

    if u breed het albino to norm, u would produce norms 33% het for albino, correct?

    if u could just answer as if it were a survey, and list clutch percentages, that would be oh so helpful ^-^

    just want to clarify all of that, and i'm all set lol

    TIA
  • 08-23-2009, 12:41 PM
    Hulihzack
    Re: quick question on genetics
    Quote:

    if u breed albino (or any other recessive) to a norm, u would produce norms 100% het for albino: correct?
    Correct.
    Quote:

    if u breed albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms and 25% 66 or 50% het for albino: please clarify @_@
    You're right, and it would be 66% het. Since you know the albino offspring are homozygous,and there are 4 possible outcomes, that leaves 3 normal looking offspring. Therefore, 2/3 of the normal looking ones will be het for albino.
    Quote:

    if u breed het albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms, and 25% norm 66% het for albino: correct?
    Het x het = 50% het, 25% normal, 25% albino.
    Quote:

    if u breed albino to albino, u would produce albinos and norms 100% het for albino: correct?
    Albino x Albino = 100% Albino
    Quote:

    if u breed het albino to norm, u would produce norms 33% het for albino, correct?
    Albino x Normal = 100% het for albinos

    Here is a program I found useful when learning genetics. It is written for corn snakes but it applies to any recessive traits.
    Progeny Predictor
  • 08-23-2009, 12:45 PM
    h00blah
    Re: quick question on genetics
    for that last one, it was het albino to normal ;p

    tyVVVVVm for the info

    just need to kno that last one and im set ;D

    EDIT: also, are there any other combinations that ive missed?
  • 08-23-2009, 12:52 PM
    Hulihzack
    Re: quick question on genetics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    for that last one, it was het albino to normal ;p

    tyVVVVVm for the info

    just need to kno that last one and im set ;D

    EDIT: also, are there any other combinations that ive missed?

    Oh, right. Het to normal is 50% normal, 50% het. I think that covers it :gj:
  • 08-23-2009, 12:54 PM
    h00blah
    Re: quick question on genetics
    LOL: SORRY: but is that 50% het, 33% het for albino or 50% het for albino?

    sorry ><
  • 08-23-2009, 01:12 PM
    ctrlfreq
    Re: quick question on genetics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms and 25% 66 or 50% het for albino

    No, a recessive super to a recessive het will produce supers and 100% hets.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed het albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms, and 25% norm 66% het for albino

    No, this pairing will produce 25% supers, 50% het and 25% normal. Because the 50% het and 25% normal look identical, they're all called 66% hets (2/3 = 66)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed albino to albino, u would produce albinos and norms 100% het for albino

    No, super to super produces all supers.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed het albino to norm, u would produce norms 33% het for albino

    No, you produce 50% het and 50% normal. Again, because you can't tell the difference between the two, they're all called 50% hets.
  • 08-23-2009, 01:45 PM
    h00blah
    Re: quick question on genetics
    im just gonna keep adding to the list then, bc im making a little document for me to ref ^-^
    would a rec (albino, or axanthic, etc..) technically be a homo of hets?

    Simple Dom:
    dom x norm = 50% dom + 50% norm

    dom x dom = 75% dom + 25% norm?
    *********************************************
    Simple Co-Dom:
    co-dom x norm = 50% co-dom + 50% norm

    co-dom x co-dom = 25% norm + 25% co-dom + 50% homo?
    *********************************************
    Simple Homo:

    homo x homo = ?

    homo x co-dom = ?

    homo x norm = ?

    homo x dom = ?

    homo x rec = ?

    homo x het = ?

    thanks so much if someone can help me fill in teh blanks ;D
    and if theres any other simple combinations i've missed, if u can just add those in and give teh stats please
  • 08-23-2009, 02:01 PM
    Gutziegal
    Re: quick question on genetics
    When in doubt, I always refer to www.ballpython.ca/genetics.html
  • 08-23-2009, 02:03 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: quick question on genetics
  • 08-23-2009, 04:56 PM
    thb
    Re: quick question on genetics
    You can try the morph wizard:

    www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/
  • 08-23-2009, 08:11 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: quick question on genetics
    alrite lets start with this

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    out of curiosity:
    if u breed albino (or any other recessive) to a norm, u would produce norms 100% het for albino: correct?

    yes, all of the babies would be 100% het

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms and 25% 66 or 50% het for albino: please clarify @_@

    no, half albinos and half 100% hets, albino has to pass the albino gene, so its eigher het or albino.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed het albino to het albino, u would produce 50% albinos, 25% norms, and 25% norm 66% het for albino: correct?

    25% albino, 50% het, 25% normal, but you can't tell the difference between the normals and hets, so all the normal looking ones are 66% het

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed albino to albino, u would produce albinos and norms 100% het for albino: correct?

    nope, all albinos (be a nice clutch wouldn't it?)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    if u breed het albino to norm, u would produce norms 33% het for albino, correct?

    odds would be half het and half normal, but again you can't tell the difference, so they would all be 50% hets.

    alrite now....

    Simple Dom:
    dom x norm = 50% dom + 50% norm

    dom x dom = 75% dom + 25% norm? (correct)
    *********************************************
    Simple Co-Dom:
    co-dom x norm = 50% co-dom + 50% norm

    co-dom x co-dom = 25% norm + 50% co-dom + 25% homo?
    ********************************************
    Simple Homo:

    homo x homo = all homos (hahaha... ok ill be mature now...)

    homo x co-dom = 50% homo, 50% co-dom

    homo x norm = all co-dom

    homo x dom = dom gene don't have a het or homo form. so to have a homo x dom pairing it have to be different genes. but still it would be...
    50% dom gene + co-dom gene, 50% co-dom, so say spider and super pastel
    50% bubblebee, 50% pastel.

    homo x rec = i think your confussed, rec you mean recessive? i think we need to go back to basics, there are 3 types of simple genes, dom, co-dom, and recessive. dom you eigher have the gene or you don't, spider is a spider or its not, co-dom and recessive can be in eigher het or homo forms. lesser is a co-dom gene and lesser is the het form and the homo form is a BEL. albino is a recessive gene, hets are just gene carriers and homo form is the albino.

    homo x het = assuming its a recessive gene, 50% homo, 50% hets

    you might want to reread some genetic info, you seem to be really confussed
  • 08-23-2009, 08:29 PM
    harm286
    Re: quick question on genetics
    ahahaha homo lol im just playin
  • 08-23-2009, 09:04 PM
    h00blah
    Re: quick question on genetics
    This:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    co-dom and recessive can be in either het or homo forms. lesser is a co-dom gene and lesser is the het form and the homo form is a BEL. albino is a recessive gene, hets are just gene carriers and homo form is the albino.

    answered this:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    would a rec (albino, or axanthic, etc..) technically be a homo of hets?

    which also mean that

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    homo x rec = ?

    was redundant.

    thankies =]. i understand now
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