Ball python breed business?

hi,

well i wanna know what do i need to start a ball python breed business, i have been reading and watching some videos but i wanna know your opinion... i wanto to start like a hobbie so im not asking for 50 snake from the start, i need racks? where i can find it? how much money do i need?.... and this a good or bad business...?

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Originally Posted by empty.

hi,

well i wanna know what do i need to start a ball python breed business, i have been reading and watching some videos but i wanna know your opinion... i wanto to start like a hobbie so im not asking for 50 snake from the start, i need racks? where i can find it? how much money do i need?.... and this a good or bad business...?

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No it's not a good business- it's a passion, an obsession & if you get bit by the BP bug you are happy if you break even... ecstatic if you can buy another "must have" morph. This is not about "bottom lines & profit margins" this is about making Living Art that has a 20+ year life-span.

Beware, you may dream of being the 1ST to create something truly unique & beautiful, but if you want ot make a profit- don't quit your day-job just yet. ;)

ok i know is a passion and i really love my snake and when i see all the videos of breeders i get more exited about this.... but at the end it is a business, but i just wanna get some help to get start it

So do you want to start an actual business and make a profit? If so you are looking at many many years of work before you can start even breeding enough animals to break even. Its a big commitment to start a breeding program. Don't do it unless you have the time and space to take care of a lot of baby snakes.

You will need thousands of dollars to purchase the snake morphs, and then another grand or two to purchase (or build) housing for those animals.

To me it sounds like you are not ready to drop this kind of money.

My advice? Start it out as a hobby. Get a couple morphs you really love and start with a clutch or two every season.

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Originally Posted by empty.

ok i know is a passion and i really love my snake and when i see all the videos of breeders i get more exited about this.... but at the end it is a business, but i just wanna get some help to get start it

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Not to be negative- quite the opposite, but I could ramble on about something I enjoy... and you could get caught up in MY excitement. That would NOT be fair to you- truth is it takes time & it takes love of the animals to get you though the tough times. Snakes are SLOW, you may want to work over-time at your current job so you can buy that dream snake... I've been at it nearly a decade & I am just now seeing some dreams come true.

Good tracking software, feeder sources, a budget that you stick to- they keep you going and it's not hard to cover the cost of keeping your snakes if you invest time & get a buyer for your babies.

You'll need to invest your time- to help others, to make a good reputation for yourself. But it's all good because it keeps you in the community & it teaches you as you help others. What I'm saying is that this takes work- more than showing up & working for someone else that decides on the success or failure of their business- this will be a thing that depends on you to succeed. It's a shift in thinking for most, but yes- if you really want this it is worth it.

There is not a one-size approach to this, much depends on you- how much are you willing to spend, how many hours? Will you have help? It may take time for you to even be able to answer these things. I knew I want this to be FUN & all my permanent snakes have names & get play-time with me, so bigger is not my goal, but quality IS.

So what are your goals? Your budget, are you patient? If you can see it you CAN do it.

ok, i want to start like a hobbie first i know i cant buy 10 or 20 snakes... even a morph one... but i want to try to start like a hobbie, having 2 pairs or maybe just 1 pair from the start and learn about it, i know it takes time, and i know you have to be patient, that why im asking for advices, but in a future i want to have more and more snake, so right know im asking for ... what do i need to start? let say has a hobbie... having 2 female and 2 male ball pythons

I think it really takes time to make any money. If you are wanting to do it as a hobby you are not going to make any money to start. I just started this hobby a year ago havn't even breed any of my snake yet. Im allready 1500 in the hole. I just hope when i do breed a couple of my snakes this year I make enough money to buy a new morph. You got to think about all the start up cost like racks that isn't cheap, food thermostats bedding, dont forget snakes that take a couple of years to mature. I think you can make a profit but it will take time to build your collection before you see any profit from it.

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Originally Posted by empty.

so right know im asking for ... what do i need to start? let say has a hobbie... having 2 female and 2 male ball pythons

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How much do you have right NOW to spend - on both the snakes and enclosures? If you want to start with something inexpensive, try getting 2 male morphs and two nice normal females (adults if you want to start next year). Deciding which morphs to get depends on your budget, but the least expensive are probably pastels... followed by Mojave, spider, cinnamon, yellowbelly, and a few others that will run around $200-400. But like the others have said, this hobby takes patience, and you can't expect a profit for quite a while (if ever).

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Originally Posted by henry

I think it really takes time to make any money. If you are wanting to do it as a hobby you are not going to make any money to start. I just started this hobby a year ago havn't even breed any of my snake yet. Im allready 1500 in the hole.

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Yeah, I'm getting close to that number... just did some calculations, and I've spent over $700 on the snakes alone, and probably $500-700 on the enclosures & accessories (including the rack I just purchased). I think I've chosen my snakes well, though, and hope to break even in the next year or two. :D

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Originally Posted by empty.

hi,

well i wanna know what do i need to start a ball python breed business, i have been reading and watching some videos but i wanna know your opinion... i wanto to start like a hobbie so im not asking for 50 snake from the start, i need racks? where i can find it? how much money do i need?.... and this a good or bad business...?

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If you have no ball pythons to begin with then you shouldn't be looking to start any business... Those are the people who fail at what they are looking to succeed in... People who will succeed in the reptile "Business", are the ones who originally started keeping these animals as pets and had an ENORMOUS love for them, and then as years past they decided to start breeding, and start small business, which sometimes eventually grew into huge businesses. Look at people like Brian at BHB or Kevin at NERD. They originally had reptiles as their pets, and had a deep passion/obsession for them (They Still Do), and then it eventually led to a business..

Also, you "want to start like a hobby"?? What the heck does that mean? You start the hobby of keeping reptiles by having the extreme passion and obsession for them... You shouldn't have to ask that...

Take it slow dude, if you don't have the passion, this isn't for you..
~Brandon

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Originally Posted by empty.

i wanna know what do i need to start a ball python breed business, i have been reading and watching some videos but i wanna know your opinion...

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Watching videos of snakes won't help you in the least when it comes to starting a business around them. That's like learning how to start a restaurant by watching people cook on the Food Network.

If you're serious, you need to be reading books on business so you can understand the process of running a business (sales, marketing, cash flow, etc.), and then books on business plans so you can outline and document exactly how you expect your own business to work, and just what will be required to remain viable.

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Originally Posted by ctrlfreq

Watching videos of snakes won't help you in the least when it comes to starting a business around them. That's like learning how to start a restaurant by watching people cook on the Food Network.

If you're serious, you need to be reading books on business so you can understand the process of running a business (sales, marketing, cash flow, etc.), and then books on business plans so you can outline and document exactly how you expect your own business to work, and just what will be required to remain viable.

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Or do like me and go to business school while starting your first breeding project. Even a few short online classes on business will help you TREMENDOUSLY.
In my case, for example, the only reason I ended up with so many snakes for my first project is because I knew a few people with Hondos and a rack that needed to get rid of them (moving, etc.). But don't rush into it. 100 baby snakes is a lot of work. You could see if a local reptile store would let you volunteer a bit so you can get a feel for caring for dozens of snakes.

well all i can tell you is how and why i started and what i spent and what i have made so far. and then you an see if it is worth your time. when i started i was 15 and i own three normal ball pythons for three year and then had to get rid of them as my new landlord didn't want any in his apartment. then many year later i thought i was ready to to what i have wanted to do for years. so i bought a creature keeper rack much like a freedom breeder rack plus two jason jungles racks and spent about 4000 on those now time to buy my snakes i bought a pastel and spent 1500 on him then bought a spider and spent 5000 on her plus bought a bunch of female normals and then saw the mojave and had to have one so i spent 11200 on him this has been going on for 7 years so far i have also bought a lesser for 1500 for him plus a few more here and there plus the feeding bill and heating bill and my time i have had a couple good years breeding like my third year of owning then i breed my pastel and hatched out 3 males no females the next yers had no time and the year after that no time really then two years ago had a good year and hatch about 40 babies mostly normals sold all the normals and gave a few morphs away as gifts. now of all the snake a have hatch and sold i might have made 2000 if i'm lucky but there is no better day then coming home at 3am and going into my snake room till 4am then takeing a shower going to bed and wakeing up 9am with my boys and starting all over. my boys enjoy the snakes and i love them have i made money NO do i care No i really don't care that much about makeing the money them i just really enjoy my hobbie/passion. so if your going to do this do it for the love first money last as you will spend a ton of that

ok for those how speak about business and etc... OMG ppl, i dont want to open a petland, or petsmart or reptilesworld... whatever... i want to start to breed ball pythons, thats its, i know is hard, i know watching videos wont help me a lot, i know i have to read, a spend money, thats why im asking what do i have to do from the start?... like 1 dude said, buy a pastel and 2 female and start from them, a rack system, head system... thats things i need to know... i know in the future its gonna be more harder and i want it to become a business for me so im gonna need permits, a loca store and stuff like that, BUT NOW i want to start in my house, and yes i do have a ball python...

Ty for the ppl who give me your advice and keep it comming...

Or, instead of being spoon fed information, you could look it up yourself? Aye, there ya go. :gj: You're member of a mountain of information right on this here website.

Call me picky, but why in the world should anyone that wants to breed not do the homework themselves?

It's one thing to ask a question or clarification about certain aspects of breeding, but your sitting there on your computer asking for people to write you a book on how to breed BP's as a business?

Why not get off your arse and look it up your own dang self?

im not asking for that :S... lol... im asking for advice... to ppl that know about breeding...

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Originally Posted by empty.

im not asking for that :S... lol... im asking for advice... to ppl that know about breeding...

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I think you need to be a little more specific. Breeding is a complex process. What do you want advice on? Have you really done any research yet?

i had read "the ball python manual", but the advice i want is... how much money do i need? 500 to 1000k? just to start like 1 male 2 female, do i need a rack system?... stuff like that

These are things you can easily look up yourself.

The money you spend will be based on what kind of morphs you want to produce. If you just want to produce some pastels then obviously your costs will be a lot lower than if you were to breed pieds.

Racks are the way to go if you plan on breeding. A lot of people like to make their own (myself included) but there are many places you can buy professionally made racks online.

You will also need an incubator and a rack for the hatchlings, as well as space for the babies once they grow up (if you don't sell them).

You will need a lot of money if you are just starting out. When do you want to start breeding by? That is also a big factor in how much money you will spend.

Buy one of these.I use the 32quart .
http://www.visionproducts.us/htm7/racks.html


Then buy one of these
http://www.bigappleherp.com/BAH-1000...=2&category=15

Also find a good rodent suplier.
Look for a pair of Spiders and a pair pastels. Pretty cheep morphs to get you started.

Good luck.

Well im going to be breeding this year i hope. I spent about 240 on my rbi rack. Spent about 50 dollars on my thermostat. I spent about 250 on 2 female adult breeders. 400 on a male spider got a 100 knock of on my lemon pastel from nerd. So that all came up to 600. Then there is food, im breeding my own rats now because my lemon is pickie and im tired of driving a hour to get hopper mice for her. Then you need to make a incubator or buy one. So there are some ball park numbers for you to start buy. You can probly find cheaper snakes but with nerd a hour away i would rather spend the money.

darkice.... ty dude... thats what i was looking for.... any more advice?...

nerd?... and can any1 here is from Canada?

I have a question how much experience do you have keeping BP? Basic husbandry, problem solving when a problem arise (and it will), what do you know about breeding itself, genetics etc? How would you rate your knowledge, because I would think that before thinking business the first step would be hands on experience and then see how you like it.

As far as business go you can spend 10K / 20K and still not break even after several years (a few people will be able to tale you that :rolleyes:) so if you want to make this a business you will need some serious cash, a serious business plan and be willing to work hard.

I think the learning process is something you need to do on your own than when you have specific questions you can ask however no one is gonna just spoon feed everything from the basics of reptile keeping to genetics to business plan.

You also got to consider if you get babies then you will have to wait 2 years. If you want snakes that are ready to go then its going to cost you more money. Nerd is New Englend Reptile Division I guess you could say he was one of the founders of ball pythons.

I think you are going at this alittle to fast, I seen you posted other things on different threads! Such as breeding permits! You should just research it yourself and not get everything from everyone else! It will help you in the long run. And how long do you want to have it as a hobby?? If you are only going to have 3-4 snakes I would just keep them in tanks ( if you already have them) dont go and buy tanks, that would be really dump. If you know that you are definitly going to get more snakes in the furture, I would get a rack that has more tubs than you need at the moment so you wont have to go by a new one in a few years!!! Also I would purchase a hatchling rack as well! So just with the two racks, you would be looking at ~$800 depending on the size and quality! Then depending on the prices of the morphs that you are looking at you could spend anywhere from $200 for a pastel, mojave, cinnamon, black pastel, to upwards of thousands for the more complex morphs like the lesserbees, the pastel clowns, the killerbees, ext. But I would suggest planning out what you want to work up to, so lets say you REALLY want to produce a killerbee, i would suggest, instead of spending alot on a killerbee i would purchase a spider and a pastel, then i would breed those hope for a bumblebee, then after a few years take the bumblebee and breed it back to the pastel, and hope for the best!!!

Hopefully this will help you out!!!

Yeah dude. its a slow starting thing. and your not gonna make alot because you dont have a ton of money to invest in snakes.
So if you get like 2-4 snakes you have to wait for them to mature, then you can get 2 clutches a year probably. and theyre not going to be anything uncommon.
I want to breed, and maby make money. Im more just wanting to get the morphs i want, but make them myself. and sell the rest that i dont need/want.

This year so far I have spent over 5000 on my hobby. I sold only 3 snakes so far this year for a whopping $25 each, normal males. So this year alone I am in the hole 4925 so far. I have done everything the cheapest way I would allow myself to. Built my own racks, purchased the thermostat, built an incubator, purchased 2 morphs, bred one morph I already had got none outta that, restocked my rat rack because i had a few issues with it and they all died off. That is just off the top of my head ther is actually a lot more like bedding and feeding the rodents and I could go on for days on this.

If you truely want to breed snakes get 2 normals they are nice and cheap and easy to get rid of at a local pet store IF NEEDED and that way you can learn how to breed as well as learn the hobby.

If you do not have the passion to do the research yourself as to what you need which would be clearly visable in 99% of the videos out there then I honestly do not think you should attempt to start yet. When I started breeding 10 years ago I had no clue what I was doing and I did all my research prior to me even thinking I could afford anything or thinking I could make money at it. In the last 10 years a ew years have been great and I did make money maybe 3 at most of those years the rest has been even or in the hole for me and yet I still do it because I love it.

see to me your asking how much money you need to start a hobby that could turn into something more. well the only thing i can really say is you need as much money as you can spare. i or noone can tell you how much money you need to start it all depends on what you want to buy and or build

It may also help to make a timeline of your business plans based on how much you are willing to invest.

well ball pythons are a very easy snake to take care of though i would wait and get a few before you take the dive into breeding when you do i would use rhino raxx they are my fav racks :)

It takes alot of work to breed and work alot of snakes. I think if you have more than 10 you should start breeding your own rodents/rabbits for food. That also takes time and money but can be well worth it in the long run because having alot of snakes can be very expesive come feeding time.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

I have a question how much experience do you have keeping BP? Basic husbandry, problem solving when a problem arise (and it will), what do you know about breeding itself, genetics etc? How would you rate your knowledge, because I would think that before thinking business the first step would be hands on experience and then see how you like it.

As far as business go you can spend 10K / 20K and still not break even after several years (a few people will be able to tale you that :rolleyes:) so if you want to make this a business you will need some serious cash, a serious business plan and be willing to work hard.

I think the learning process is something you need to do on your own than when you have specific questions you can ask however no one is gonna just spoon feed everything from the basics of reptile keeping to genetics to business plan.

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Yep. Deborah's got it down. We've been herping, reading, raising, and collecting for years (decades). We've invested several tens of thousands, and it will be awhile before we see dollar one in the black. But, that's not what we got into it for. Business licenses, red tape, and consumables keep us busy. So, it's a labor of love, and as someone said, a passion or obsession, before it becomes a business.

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Originally Posted by empty.

hi,

well i wanna know what do i need to start a ball python breed business, i have been reading and watching some videos but i wanna know your opinion... i wanto to start like a hobbie so im not asking for 50 snake from the start, i need racks? where i can find it? how much money do i need?.... and this a good or bad business...?

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I don't think you could create any kind of a business, because from reading your posts, you know nothing about snakes. I would find a different hobby. Unless you actually listen to what people are saying and do research.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Or, instead of being spoon fed information, you could look it up yourself? Aye, there ya go. :gj: You're member of a mountain of information right on this here website.

Call me picky, but why in the world should anyone that wants to breed not do the homework themselves?

It's one thing to ask a question or clarification about certain aspects of breeding, but your sitting there on your computer asking for people to write you a book on how to breed BP's as a business?

Why not get off your arse and look it up your own dang self?

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LOL well said !

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Originally Posted by dadspets

It takes alot of work to breed and work alot of snakes. I think if you have more than 10 you should start breeding your own rodents/rabbits for food. That also takes time and money but can be well worth it in the long run because having alot of snakes can be very expesive come feeding time.

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i can spend 200-300 a month on feeders really easy, which is why i breed.
also i never have enough feeders so i have to buy more anyway most of the time.
just in caging alone would cost thousands not including for the feeders.
i dont even want to figure what ive paid for animals and im not even close to even.
then you have to add in electric, water, cleaning stuff its just not going to happen unless you could dump a cool million into a hobby real easy your doing good if you make enough in a year to just cover your costs and perhaps a few more snakes to add to your collection

I bred two of my ball pythons for the first time this past season. It started with the ball pythons exactly 2 years ago when I got my first two ball pythons. A normal female and a normal male het for pied. I spent $120 on the pair and over the course of 2 years, I have spent more money then I probably should have. In a few months we purchased our first morph for $100, a nice little pastel. A month later, we purchased a female pastel for $225. A few months later we picked up a spider male ($300) and a pinstripe female ($600) and later two normal females (I think it was around $300 for the two of them). So just in ball pythons, we have spent $1645. If you don't include the tanks we initially had for some of these snakes and just count the racks, then we have spent $1000. Other necessities such as water bowls, substrate, (sexing probes - I've bought two sets and lost both. They were $20 each), and food I haven't even bothered to add up. During the past two years I've spent a lot of money on food and right now I spend close to $150 per month in food for the snakes. Not to mention a vet visit or two. I've put myself well over $3000 in the hole and even with one breeding season under my belt I haven't made a single dollar back.

Even though I plan on breeding snakes on a far larger scale than I do now, I don't ever to expect to make a profit. If I can at least make some money to help with costs by selling some babies each year, then I'd be happy.

Hey all..
I dont wanna take over this post but i wasnt sure where else to post it and because of this guys "great" business venture i figured i would throw my 2 cents in. Im a brand new ball python owner and probably researched for 5-6months about every thing from keeping to breeding to morphs everything and im no where close to breeding anything. Yes in a couple years after my lemon pastel ph axan. is ready i would love to breed her but only for my personal collection. My question is how does one go about selling the offspring/babies that you dont want to hold back. Locally i would say where i am at (Iowa City) it would be nearly impossible. Im not looking to become a big breeder or make any money at all. I just love ball pythons and am worried about having more snakes then i really want to keep at one time. Now ofcourse when this time comes (a ways from now) i will make sure i have room to house this many snakes. (2 adult balls and their offspring). Just kind of wondering how one goes about selling/giving away the others. Thanks very much all
-Steven-

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Originally Posted by Strtaylor

Hey all..
I dont wanna take over this post but i wasnt sure where else to post it and because of this guys "great" business venture i figured i would throw my 2 cents in. Im a brand new ball python owner and probably researched for 5-6months about every thing from keeping to breeding to morphs everything and im no where close to breeding anything. Yes in a couple years after my lemon pastel ph axan. is ready i would love to breed her but only for my personal collection. My question is how does one go about selling the offspring/babies that you dont want to hold back. Locally i would say where i am at (Iowa City) it would be nearly impossible. Im not looking to become a big breeder or make any money at all. I just love ball pythons and am worried about having more snakes then i really want to keep at one time. Now ofcourse when this time comes (a ways from now) i will make sure i have room to house this many snakes. (2 adult balls and their offspring). Just kind of wondering how one goes about selling/giving away the others. Thanks very much all
-Steven-

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well some ppl try to sell them on craigslistor other pet sites also on forums.
some sell to petstores and some just wholesale off what they dont want

Okay I have only had my ball since april which I adopted from a petco. I have always loved animals and have many different kinds of animals. Currently I also have a tank of african cichlids which has 2 breeding pairs (so far that I know of) that had babies for the first time this year. Now dealing with freshwater fish which are less expensive than balls. I have spent since I got interested in fish I have spent over 300 dollars and maybe 400+ so far I have made 26 dollars which bought me some filter cartriges and food.

Back to the balls. I have already spent 200+ on my one snake buying her, feeding her, and bringing her habitat up to par and it's not quite there yet. I have spent probably 20-40 hours in the last two weeks reading the threads on this site, trying to learn as much as I can so I can take the best care possible of my girl. I would like to breed on a hobby level some day (if I can convince my girlfriend possible future wife that snakes are cool.) To get there I plan on buying a baby morph to add to my collection of one adult female normal. Then when it is old enough perhaps I will have enough knowledge and experince to try breeding. This is something I would suggest for you who does not SEEM to have the passion for animals that the rest of us do. I apologize for the long post but I felt the need to share.

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Hey all..
I dont wanna take over this post but i wasnt sure where else to post it and because of this guys "great" business venture i figured i would throw my 2 cents in. Im a brand new ball python owner and probably researched for 5-6months about every thing from keeping to breeding to morphs everything and im no where close to breeding anything. Yes in a couple years after my lemon pastel ph axan. is ready i would love to breed her but only for my personal collection. My question is how does one go about selling the offspring/babies that you dont want to hold back. Locally i would say where i am at (Iowa City) it would be nearly impossible. Im not looking to become a big breeder or make any money at all. I just love ball pythons and am worried about having more snakes then i really want to keep at one time. Now ofcourse when this time comes (a ways from now) i will make sure i have room to house this many snakes. (2 adult balls and their offspring). Just kind of wondering how one goes about selling/giving away the others. Thanks very much all
-Steven-

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well you could probably find some reptile shows, locally or within some distance drive. For me theres one every month really close, its smaller (in the amount of animals there) but theres alot of people. I was surprised how many people were there. Theres also bigger ones at fairgrounds but not as often. You could also try craigslist, make a website, or places like kingsnake.

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Originally Posted by Strtaylor

Hey all..
I dont wanna take over this post but i wasnt sure where else to post it and because of this guys "great" business venture i figured i would throw my 2 cents in. Im a brand new ball python owner and probably researched for 5-6months about every thing from keeping to breeding to morphs everything and im no where close to breeding anything. Yes in a couple years after my lemon pastel ph axan. is ready i would love to breed her but only for my personal collection. My question is how does one go about selling the offspring/babies that you dont want to hold back. Locally i would say where i am at (Iowa City) it would be nearly impossible. Im not looking to become a big breeder or make any money at all. I just love ball pythons and am worried about having more snakes then i really want to keep at one time. Now ofcourse when this time comes (a ways from now) i will make sure i have room to house this many snakes. (2 adult balls and their offspring). Just kind of wondering how one goes about selling/giving away the others. Thanks very much all
-Steven-

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There is a Reptile Breeders Expo in Omaha, NE in October and April that could be a place or at least you could get some ideas from people there who might be more local.

http://www.nebherp.org

Wow loads of info and loads of different ideas. If you have the desire to do this for a living I say go for it!! Understand there is a learning curve and there are loads of things that as a business person you'll want to understand.

From a business stand point you'll need to be able to separate (at first) the "Want of the owner" from the "good for business" decisions. i.e. while I may want and even be able to buy a male G-stripe that money is better spent on a freezer and 200+ F/T rats at this point. Its tough when the passion wants to over ride the business cause lets face it you can do this small time have loads of fun produce tons of animals and morphs and never be a "business". If your looking at being a business let the passion see you through the bites, poop, pee, hissing, strikes, oooo's and aaaa's but let the business be the wheels that keep it going. Cause you get 200+ snakes and make a few bad decisions and start having to sell animals off and the passion side of you will scream and keep you up at night.

the difference between a Hobbyist and a "Breeder" is.. a breeder looks at his bottom line to see if his passion can be supported by the business and not whether his passion is making a bottom line.

I want an Ultra-Mel with all my soul. I will have one... I could write the check today..but it would mean rats would not get fed for months, which in turn means snakes don't get fed, which means, shirts wouldn't get printed, adds don't get bought, shows get skipped the list goes on and on...

Remember this passion starts the business in the beginning.Sound business decisions keep it going.and Passion is still there

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Wow loads of info and loads of different ideas. If you have the desire to do this for a living I say go for it!! Understand there is a learning curve and there are loads of things that as a business person you'll want to understand.

From a business stand point you'll need to be able to separate (at first) the "Want of the owner" from the "good for business" decisions. i.e. while I may want and even be able to buy a male G-stripe that money is better spent on a freezer and 200+ F/T rats at this point. Its tough when the passion wants to over ride the business cause lets face it you can do this small time have loads of fun produce tons of animals and morphs and never be a "business". If your looking at being a business let the passion see you through the bites, poop, pee, hissing, strikes, oooo's and aaaa's but let the business be the wheels that keep it going. Cause you get 200+ snakes and make a few bad decisions and start having to sell animals off and the passion side of you will scream and keep you up at night.

the difference between a Hobbyist and a "Breeder" is.. a breeder looks at his bottom line to see if his passion can be supported by the business and not whether his passion is making a bottom line.

I want an Ultra-Mel with all my soul. I will have one... I could write the check today..but it would mean rats would not get fed for months, which in turn means snakes don't get fed, which means, shirts wouldn't get printed, adds don't get bought, shows get skipped the list goes on and on...

Remember this passion starts the business in the beginning.Sound business decisions keep it going.and Passion is still there

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Now that is sound advice with experience! :gj:

I was thinking about starting one. I already don't care about income or anything ill have another income but thus would be more of a passion to see what different genes can produce and what new morphs or same morphs but sharper looking I can create. I can sell what I can and keep what I want. My family is into genes and science lol scientists. So I know it will take time lots of money but I'm doing it out of passion and fun. Feeding cleaning water humidity heat I love taking care if the snakes.

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Originally Posted by strykerX

I was thinking about starting one. I already don't care about income or anything ill have another income but thus would be more of a passion to see what different genes can produce and what new morphs or same morphs but sharper looking I can create. I can sell what I can and keep what I want. My family is into genes and science lol scientists. So I know it will take time lots of money but I'm doing it out of passion and fun. Feeding cleaning water humidity heat I love taking care if the snakes.

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