Whale Wars.

I was just curious as to how many people watch this show. I just recently have been getting into it and it just makes me so mad every time I watch them kill whales. I hate how they claim to be research ships and that's not the case at all.


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What are your opinions of the show? The Sea Sheppard crew? The Whalers?

I like the show.

im pretty addicted to it.
i dont agree with whale hunting.
and i think what the crew does is good,
they stand up for what they belive in.

Yeah the show is my new found addiction. I cant get enough of it... I think the crew on the Sea Sheppard are awesome. I can't believe how hard the fight and the things they do to stop the whalers.

yeah, its shocking how aggressive the whalers are getting too...

oh yean, but money makes people do crazy things.

thats true, but over there whale is somthing they commonly eat and stuff, we arnt accustom to that...
so its a big deal for us, but not for them

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Originally Posted by FIEND_FO_LYFE

thats true, but over there whale is somthing they commonly eat and stuff, we arnt accustom to that...
so its a big deal for us, but not for them

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Yeah but it doesn't mean they should be able to whale in a whale sanctuary.

I just asked my buddy about it and he said that its boring and that nothing happens until the end of the season.

Looks interesting though.

i completly agree.
its not right in a sancuary.
but, if it was out of the area, i see no problem unless the animals population was depleting at exponential rates...

That ray gun looks pretty intense...

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Originally Posted by Mitch21

That ray gun looks pretty intense...

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lmfao ray gun?
do you mean LRAD?
they suck.
unless you get a militar grade.

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Originally Posted by Mitch21

That ray gun looks pretty intense...

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haha the LRAD is pretty crazy

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Originally Posted by N4S

I just asked my buddy about it and he said that its boring and that nothing happens until the end of the season.

Looks interesting though.

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Its a good show all season, of course at the end it gets way intense.

I tried watching it but it is just SOOO drawn out... in one episode they play the same situations over and over and over again. I hate that. I guess I am just not calm enough to be able to watch the same crap over and over and over again in between a ridiculous amount of commercials.


Plus, I guess it doesn't help that for the most part I don't agree with them messing with the fisherman in the first place.

How does it work again?

If the were in fact using their catches for scientific research like they are supposed to, it would be ok...

But since they are instead using it as meat to feed a starving country, it is is bad?

Ok, sure.

I don't like the fact that they show clips from the season finale on the commercials. Saying "Next time on whale wars" When it really happens like 3 episodes later.

But I do like the show.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

I tried watching it but it is just SOOO drawn out... in one episode they play the same situations over and over and over again. I hate that. I guess I am just not calm enough to be able to watch the same crap over and over and over again in between a ridiculous amount of commercials.


Plus, I guess it doesn't help that for the most part I don't agree with them messing with the fisherman in the first place.

How does it work again?

If the were in fact using their catches for scientific research like they are supposed to, it would be ok...

But since they are instead using it as meat to feed a starving country, it is is bad?

Ok, sure.

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if it were for science, they wouldnt dump parts overboard, and be hunting them and processing the meat.
the legality of things isnt enforced so its not a big deal for them.
but actually, scientist use non lethal ways most of the time, and VERY few whales are actually killed for science.
not the 120 sum odd whales bein slaughtered on boats and shipped off for food.

The EcoTerrorists should sack up and start sinking ships.

International waters baby!

So what if they'll never be allowed in most ports again. SOMEONE will let them in...then they can matriculate back into society. :rofl:

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Thanks, I forgot all about those threads

no problem :)
I used to love the show, its getting a little old now though, they give away the whole episode in the commercials. Then your disappointed because it wasnt what you expected...

I feel bad for the whales, but those people do a awful job at stopping the whalers. They pretty much drive around them crying. They need better equipment or its a waste of time for them to be out there.

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I feel bad for the whales, but those people do a awful job at stopping the whalers. They pretty much drive around them crying. They need better equipment or its a waste of time for them to be out there.

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its a great show and i disagree with whale hunting but come on the crew from the steve irwin just chase them and cry...and when the japs retaliate they get angry...they need better equipment and tactics....

I hate shows like that... sorry but I do. Shows like that over dramatise everything to the point of just making me mad. I'm a animal lover too, but I eat meat. Not to meantion most of the "activists" are closer to "terrorists" are that show is going to keep on running and making money for the big name "animal" groups some of who want to take away our rights to own pets. Now these are just my opinions and you don't have to accept them or even agree with them... I'm getting off my soap box now... Sorry.

I think the saddest episode was when they showed them killing the whale.

Sea Shepherd should be shut down and/or sunk. They claim to be pirates. They operate under a pirate flag. I think in one episode they even jumped on a Japanese boat and then got mad when they were treated rough. And I think last night they actually rammed a ship. They always say how the Japanese are endangering their lives but they don't consider the fact that they are endangering Japanese lives when they throw things, lay fouler lines and ram ships. I may not agree with whaling in a sanctuary, but I seriously disgree with SS methods. Seriously, if the Japanese can whale in a sanctuary because of a vague law, then try and get the law changed. I also have to question Sea Shepherds resolve. They always claim how they will "die to save the whales" but as soon as they get close to danger everybody starts whining about being unsafe, and dangerous, blah, blah, blah. They are weak. I think the only one who might die to save a whale is Paul Watson, and that is because he has been talking poo for so many years that he has no choice. You could also say he is not willing to die for a whale because he's still alive after all these years. Another example is the pilot. In the episode where he filmed them shooting the whale. If he truly is willing to die to save the whales then he could have easily kamikazed his helicopter in to the boat and saved several whales lives. But I also think it the near future someone will, because I'm suprised the Japanese haven't shot that harpoon through those inflatable boats. That shows alot of restraint on their parts. And the Japanese also have rifles on their boats. Basically, as stated earlier, Sea Shepherd claims to be pirates, which basically puts them in the same classification as Somali pirates and Malaysian pirates and they should be treated as such, period. And for those of you who think the Japanese are evil. those are just people trying to make a living. trying to pay the bills, trying to put kids through college...

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Sea Shepherd should be shut down and/or sunk. They claim to be pirates. They operate under a pirate flag. I think in one episode they even jumped on a Japanese boat and then got mad when they were treated rough. And I think last night they actually rammed a ship. They always say how the Japanese are endangering their lives but they don't consider the fact that they are endangering Japanese lives when they throw things, lay fouler lines and ram ships. I may not agree with whaling in a sanctuary, but I seriously disgree with SS methods. Seriously, if the Japanese can whale in a sanctuary because of a vague law, then try and get the law changed. I also have to question Sea Shepherds resolve. They always claim how they will "die to save the whales" but as soon as they get close to danger everybody starts whining about being unsafe, and dangerous, blah, blah, blah. They are weak. I think the only one who might die to save a whale is Paul Watson, and that is because he has been talking poo for so many years that he has no choice. You could also say he is not willing to die for a whale because he's still alive after all these years. Another example is the pilot. In the episode where he filmed them shooting the whale. If he truly is willing to die to save the whales then he could have easily kamikazed his helicopter in to the boat and saved several whales lives. But I also think it the near future someone will, because I'm suprised the Japanese haven't shot that harpoon through those inflatable boats. That shows alot of restraint on their parts. And the Japanese also have rifles on their boats. Basically, as stated earlier, Sea Shepherd claims to be pirates, which basically puts them in the same classification as Somali pirates and Malaysian pirates and they should be treated as such, period. And for those of you who think the Japanese are evil. those are just people trying to make a living. trying to pay the bills, trying to put kids through college...

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What they're doing is not trying to pay the bills, I mean it is but they're not doing it for the reasons they say, that is a proven fact. They are doing whatever they can to stop them from killing whales, some people would do the same or similiar measures to protect every hobby.

The japanese claim to be within the laws, and technically they are. They claim to study the whales they kill, and if they take measurements and readings and bits to check for testing, then they are fullfilling their part of the bargain of "killing whales for research". Then what? You'd prefer they pitch the dead whale over board?

The japanese actually do test the whale bodies a lot, mainly for safety concerns like mercury levels, and ages and reproduction so that they know about the sustainability of whale stocks.

If the terrorists want the whaling to stop, they should get the loopholes in the laws changed. But let's face it, whales are in essance large cows that live in the ocean. The japanese consider them a food item, not a giant special mystical being. They are animals, same as our dogs, cows, deer, or bears. Big animals that happen to live in the ocean.

If the numbers of whales are high enough, then the whaling commission puts a quota of the number of whales that can be killed. Sea Shepard wants to rush out and scream that THEIR opinions matter more than all the rest of the world that has set up the whaling commission and agreed to abide by their laws. Not only that, but they then use terrorist activies to further their goals, then actually whine and go all emo when someone dares to give them any retaliation for their own aggressive terrorism.

Personally, I think the japanese should have shot them for real, instead of the big fake shooting the sea shepard put on for the cameras. Pirates are shot on the high seas.

Whale Wars is just PETA fanatics being emo and whiney and trying to tell the entire world that THEIR opinion should matter more than all the rest of us. What next? Will you cheer and support Sea Shepard when they show up throwing blood and acid at cattle ranchers, saying that cows have every right to live their lives without being killed for beef? Why not? It's exactly the same thing, and they can use almost every argument against cattle ranchers as they do for japanese whalers.. but then, US Ranchers WOULD shoot them, and the emo whiners wouldn't risk that.

My $0.02, not that I have strong feelings against the PETA POS emo whiney babys or anything.

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The japanese claim to be within the laws, and technically they are. They claim to study the whales they kill, and if they take measurements and readings and bits to check for testing, then they are fullfilling their part of the bargain of "killing whales for research". Then what? You'd prefer they pitch the dead whale over board?

The japanese actually do test the whale bodies a lot, mainly for safety concerns like mercury levels, and ages and reproduction so that they know about the sustainability of whale stocks.

If the terrorists want the whaling to stop, they should get the loopholes in the laws changed. But let's face it, whales are in essance large cows that live in the ocean. The japanese consider them a food item, not a giant special mystical being. They are animals, same as our dogs, cows, deer, or bears. Big animals that happen to live in the ocean.

If the numbers of whales are high enough, then the whaling commission puts a quota of the number of whales that can be killed. Sea Shepard wants to rush out and scream that THEIR opinions matter more than all the rest of the world that has set up the whaling commission and agreed to abide by their laws. Not only that, but they then use terrorist activies to further their goals, then actually whine and go all emo when someone dares to give them any retaliation for their own aggressive terrorism.

Personally, I think the japanese should have shot them for real, instead of the big fake shooting the sea shepard put on for the cameras. Pirates are shot on the high seas.

Whale Wars is just PETA fanatics being emo and whiney and trying to tell the entire world that THEIR opinion should matter more than all the rest of us. What next? Will you cheer and support Sea Shepard when they show up throwing blood and acid at cattle ranchers, saying that cows have every right to live their lives without being killed for beef? Why not? It's exactly the same thing, and they can use almost every argument against cattle ranchers as they do for japanese whalers.. but then, US Ranchers WOULD shoot them, and the emo whiners wouldn't risk that.

My $0.02, not that I have strong feelings against the PETA POS emo whiney babys or anything.

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Good post. Your :twocents: have been spent wisely...:gj:

Spent? You mean I spent those two pennies?? Jeez. I thought I'd just loan them out for the interest. *kicks a clod of dirt*.
Could have used a bit of candy.

I personally like the show and agree with the sea shepards. Yes they use crazy tactics, yes I hate PETA and the HSUS but honestly the whalers shouldn't be whaling. If there were more whales sure I wouldn't have a problem. Its the fact that not to long ago whales were close to extinction and still today they are endangered. Add in the fact that these animals are slow growing, long lived, and have a slow reproductive cycle the whalers could really have a big impact on the population(even if they are hunting only so many whales a year). And to be honest the sea shepards are doing good job at there cause. Their main goal isn't to completely stop the whalers themselves, its to get attention to there cause and if people here, on the news, and around the world are talking about it then they are doing a good job.

i love this show... the new episode was crazy!!

its not my favorite but really "look at me i can throw acid on a ship and destroy whale meat because i think its going to stop whalers", no thats not how it works you ruin the meat of one whale and they are going to dump it and find another whale to kill, this kind of stuff happens get over it you dont need to be on a ship harrasing some people that you cant stop!
just my:twocents:

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Originally Posted by temec

i love this show... the new episode was crazy!!

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All of the episodes are crazy...lol

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Originally Posted by dc1

its not my favorite but really "look at me i can throw acid on a ship and destroy whale meat because i think its going to stop whalers", no thats not how it works you ruin the meat of one whale and they are going to dump it and find another whale to kill, this kind of stuff happens get over it you dont need to be on a ship harrasing some people that you cant stop!
just my

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I agree. They have good intentions, but they endanger a lot of people trying to stop something they really can't stop. I can't watch the show personally

I do like the show and understand where their coming from with wanting to protect the whales. I do believe the Japs are wrong for hunting whales for meat. There are many other animals out there (beef, chicken, turkey, pig, sheep, fish, crab) that are fast producing and can be found easily in their country. But instead they decide to they want to go out, come to our whale sanctuary, lie to our faces, and kill these wonderful creatures for their meat. It's awful, and after seeing the episode where they killed the whale, it is in my opinion very inhumane..the whale struggled for a half hour on that line, choking on it's own blood before the men finally shot it. This is wrong no matter how you look at it.

However..I do not agree with the Sea Sheperds ways and strategies. I have told my fiance and friends many times already that it's a good thing I'm not on that ship or things would be going very differently. For one, a whole lot more then just stink bombs would be thrown on those ships, I would make sure we also have an LRAD and would launch it every night right at them, Also..that helicopter would be used a whole lot more then just for an overview object. I would make sure it carried a heavy enough object that when dropped from a certain height, would break through the ship's deck and cause some real damage. Also, on this last episode where they tried to put their ship to cut the transfer line from the whaling ship to the processing ship, I would have had both small boats out there with sharp knives, or even battery chainsaws to cut those ropes..

All in all...what I am trying to say..is if your going to do something..go all the way..not half...cause in the end..what is the half really saving?

Whales shmales. What about shark fin soup? I believe the sharks harvest for eastern countries is far more devastating for sharp populations... can I back that up? Nope. Don't have the numbers in front of me.

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I do like the show and understand where their coming from with wanting to protect the whales. I do believe the Japs are wrong for hunting whales for meat. There are many other animals out there (beef, chicken, turkey, pig, sheep, fish, crab) that are fast producing and can be found easily in their country. But instead they decide to they want to go out, come to our whale sanctuary, lie to our faces, and kill these wonderful creatures for their meat. It's awful, and after seeing the episode where they killed the whale, it is in my opinion very inhumane..the whale struggled for a half hour on that line, choking on it's own blood before the men finally shot it. This is wrong no matter how you look at it.

However..I do not agree with the Sea Sheperds ways and strategies. I have told my fiance and friends many times already that it's a good thing I'm not on that ship or things would be going very differently. For one, a whole lot more then just stink bombs would be thrown on those ships, I would make sure we also have an LRAD and would launch it every night right at them, Also..that helicopter would be used a whole lot more then just for an overview object. I would make sure it carried a heavy enough object that when dropped from a certain height, would break through the ship's deck and cause some real damage. Also, on this last episode where they tried to put their ship to cut the transfer line from the whaling ship to the processing ship, I would have had both small boats out there with sharp knives, or even battery chainsaws to cut those ropes..

All in all...what I am trying to say..is if your going to do something..go all the way..not half...cause in the end..what is the half really saving?

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You then, are just the same as people that shoot Doctors that perform abortions and bomb abortion clinics. The only difference is that while they do it to save human life, you would do it to protect animal life. The intent is exactly the same as is the reasoning and legitimacy of the acts.

I may talk a lot of talk, but in all the reality of it all. The things I said are just things that I would like to see happen..I doubt very much so that I would ever have the heart to really cause physical harm to any person (unless they were threatening my family, friends or pets)..I do consider myself a very huge animal lover. I believe in protecting endangered and all animal life at almost any cost..but at the same time..I don't truely want to see death come from the outcome...But there are times when you can either have one or the other, either there is no death and animals suffer, or there is death, but the animals are protected in the long run. I am one of the very few people that would choose to have an animal live rather then some guy who decides to fight dogs for entertainment, or go out and kill whales for food when you have a farm with cows and other foods right on your land..I'm sorry..like I said..I'm not at all a violent person and fear death myself and hate to see death come to others..but when it comes to animals..It's a spot in my heart that can truely send the worst part of me to the front..and then...well..then all bets are off..There are just some people..who just shouldn't be here..but as mentioned..this is just my opinion...

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not that i have strong feelings against the peta pos emo whiney babys or anything.

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I can't stand it. It's a bunch of freaking tree huggers or in this case whale huggers lol. They think they have all the answers and everyone else is wrong. I really wish those morons would sit down and think like normal human beings and come up with a better solution other then doing everything in their power to make themselves out to be some crazy left wing extremist group. I like what they stand for just not their methods.

i hate it for pretty much the same reasons stated already by a few people. its just more PETA style gorilla terrorism. If they want to be pirates, fine, then let the japanese whip out some cannons and blast away.

So by your reasoning, it's okay to encourage others to murder people for animals, but you don't want to actually do it yourself?

Here's a quick tidbit, Japan doesn't have cows on farms in their homeland hardly AT ALL. They don't have wide expanses of ground. Plus, why is it okay to kill the cows, but not whales? What makes a whale more special? They are both animals. The whole endangered routine is not for every species of whale(which is why the whaling commission is set up), and the species that are highly endangered are not targeted.

Again, if you disagree, you change the laws. If you want to go insist that your opinion is the way the entire world MUST think, and when told "Go away, everyone else is happy", you throw a tantrum and turn to terrorist acts, it's easy to see who the Bad Guy is. It's not the whalers.

The Sea Shepard is the same people who release people's dogs onto the busy highway and get dozen killed in a horrible way. Why? Becuase dogs shouldn't be "imprisoned" as our pets. Same folks who throw thousands of minks out into a ecosystem to die horrible deaths or to inflict untold damage on native species, because they disagree with fur.

How long until they come release your pets into the wild so they can be free and you have no choice in the matter because they are "right" and the law doesn't matter, because they are doing it for the 'animals rights'? How is it different?

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I can't stand it. It's a bunch of freaking tree huggers or in this case whale huggers lol. They think they have all the answers and everyone else is wrong. I really wish those morons would sit down and think like normal human beings and come up with a better solution other then doing everything in their power to make themselves out to be some crazy left wing extremist group. I like what they stand for just not their methods.

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Because, if they did, people might be apt to work with them. But then again, if they did, they wouldn't have their own t.v. show. It's interesting how each season gets a little more tense. I wonder how much the Animal Planet producers have influenced these actions for the sake of ratings? And how long do you think it will be before they get cameras on the whaling ships to show their side. And how long do you think it will be before alot of the fishermen from Deadliest Catch start showing up in Japan to join the whaling fleets. I said "fleets" because yes there are more than one. Strange how Sea Shepherd only goes after the same boats year after year.(Hmmm, Animal Planet behind the scenes again).

I work night shifts and watch two or three episodes every Sunday. I really enjoy watching it, and it does make me very sad :(

I just don't understand it at all, killing animals for the sole purpose of making a dime? Animals that can't repopulate in a year or two???

I guess my family sort of kills animals for money, but it's a pig farm. Pigs are by no means endagered or on the verge of it.