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Mazikeen progression thread
We finally settled on a snake! Put the down payment on her today, but won't be getting her for a few weeks yet. I'm so excited! We've had a name (Mazikeen) picked out before we started our search, and this little girl just fit the bill perfectly! So excited!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...thouxt_540.png
(pic from an email from the seller, 'Still Ball Pythons' on Morph Market).
Super red axanthic, and gorgeous as heck! When she comes in the mail I'll try to remember to do an unboxing video - but we'll see how that goes lmao.
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
Great name and beautiful snake. Congrats and good luck with unboxing vid :D
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More pics from the breeder, because I can't stop staring at her! Only a week until pay day..... Can't come fast enough!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...afwo1_1280.jpg
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(she's got little hearts on her sides, it's just too adorable)
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
sooooooo TINY!!! congrats! 😀 she sure is beautiful. i'm sure it's going to feel like forever until she's at your door.
any significance to the name? jw!
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
sooooooo TINY!!! congrats! 😀 she sure is beautiful. i'm sure it's going to feel like forever until she's at your door.
any significance to the name? jw!
Yep! She hatched May 30th, so she is very, very tiny lmao. For real though, I'm re-checking that everything is set up perfectly and in-range temp/humidity wise..... Can't help myself.
Mazikeen's the name of a demon from Lucifer (DC), which was given an TV adaptation through FOX in 2016. She is amazing and badass, and loves licking knives? She's just one of my favorite characters in the show, so. All the significance I needed! :oops:
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Didn't get around to an unboxing video -- as mentioned in another thread, there were some mishaps with shipping ('FedEx why' is apparently my go-to saying rn). But I got photos of her! Not very high quality, I'm afraid. I think I need to add another light bulb to my overhead bc its just. Too warm. Too saturated. Gross icky lighting. Anyways. Here is snek.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...afwo1_1280.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...afwo6_1280.jpg
And one from about an hour ago, paper tube gets snek star of approval.
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She is absolutely gorgeous congrats!!! I love that you've given her a pvc pipe "branch". Is it held in place by tension or did you glue it?
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Originally Posted by MissterDog
She is absolutely gorgeous congrats!!! I love that you've given her a pvc pipe "branch". Is it held in place by tension or did you glue it?
She's got two -- double the climbing! I actually drilled tiny holes in the sides and then put nails through them. It's super sturdy, and I can remove the nails to clean the pipes and the tube more thoroughly.
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She's got two -- double the climbing! I actually drilled tiny holes in the sides and then put nails through them. It's super sturdy, and I can remove the nails to clean the pipes and the tube more thoroughly.
Awesome planning there! I bet once she settles she's going to be one happy snek!
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That's so cute, Wanda is a climber as well :D I should get her something to play with like that!
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What a sweet girl! Seems she's really loving that plant!
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She is! I checked back and thought she was in a hide and everything, so I was seeing if she'd done a poop or something and nOPE she was in the plant still. She's pretty calm, didn't strike even though I moved the plant, poor noodle. This is the most curled up she's gotten. I'm so sorry baby! :c
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Not a picture update, but Maze ate for me today! F/t and everything. Sweet. Hopefully we can get some handling in on Sunday!
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Congratulations! She's so. Eautiful, and you're doing such a good job with her.
8^)
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Thank you so much!
Well, we weighed her and she's now 72 grams post-feed. She was 59 when she arrived, and the mouse she ate was only 11, so some of that weight isn't mouse. (Where did it come from??? :o) (grow baby grow). Roommate took some pictures of the snaby, and for some reason she was super interested in the camera....
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Unfortunately roommate's phone's a bit more blurry than mine but..... Still adorable :3.
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Bought myself a real cheap clamp lamp and some daylight bulbs today, and Maze instantly started wandering around like she'd never seen her enclosure before! Even caught a video of her exploring her fake plant again, because that's her favorite activity ever apparently. This is only cementing the idea of adding a light to her tub so she has some sense of a day/night schedule (I have absolutely no way of doing that in my room whilst I am at work, unfortunately).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wkF9VOs3XY
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A game of peek-a-boo, aka, Maze kept circling around the box and forgetting that this was the same entrance, probably.
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And these photos aren't too great, but they illustrate her 'THE FLOOR IS LAVA' mentality; every chance she gets her booty's some degree of airborne. Did I secretly purchase an inchworm, maybe? lmao
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...afwo1_1280.jpg
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Maze is deep in blue today -- I didn't even notice until after I'd tried to feed her (in my defense it was dark and I had my glasses off most of the time). No wonder she didn't take it -- she seemed interested but no dice. I forgot to take a picture though -- immediately put her back once I realized lmao. Poor girl. I'll try to take some pics later.
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
That's so great to see the Royal / Ball python climbing ( not to mention clever - how do you upload videos ?)
I've been banging on for years that Royals/Balls love climbing and will spend every evening slithering through branches ( free from local woods ) and cheap plastic / silk foliage bought from pound/ dollar shops !
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If you have Youtube's app on your phone you can upload them there. It took me a while to find the exact button to push because it's not 100% self explanatory 8/. I circled the button here (honestly didn't even NOTICE it until i did a google search on HOW). After that it presents you with the option of either making a new video or selecting one you've already recorded.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...nafwo1_540.png
...... don't judge my love of the mcelroys....
And yeah, when maze isn't hiding she's climbing! Tol gurl!
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Got some pictures of the poor blue baby. She's apparently a really obvious shedder. I'm just really blind lol.
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Time to leave her alone for a few days!
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Precious little cinamon bun! I love seeing updates of her <3
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
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Originally Posted by Zincubus
That's so great to see the Royal / Ball python climbing ( not to mention clever - how do you upload videos ?)
I've been banging on for years that Royals/Balls love climbing and will spend every evening slithering through branches ( free from local woods ) and cheap plastic / silk foliage bought from pound/ dollar shops !
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Zinc, please show me a voluntarily climbing 3000 gram+ female and I promise I will stop contesting you on this. I once saw a horse with buggy attached climb a tree (for real). It doesn't make them arboreal.
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I once saw a horse with buggy attached climb a tree (for real).
Omg. Okay I wanna talk about this. I cannot even picture this in my head.
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Zinc, please show me a voluntarily climbing 3000 gram+ female and I promise I will stop contesting you on this. I once saw a horse with buggy attached climb a tree (for real). It doesn't make them arboreal.
Not meaning to encourage a debate or get TOO off topic but to be fair, aren't females (specifically breeding ones) less likely to climb than males since they don't have the need to roam the same way males do? Especially during breeding season?
Not saying they are arboreal of course, because I know they're not, but I think if presented with the option some do take the opportunity to try some modest climbing, but is heavily dependent on the individual bp. It could be that Little miss Mazikeen is an exception to the rule, but it probably helps that Starscream did a good job providing a secure climb set-up that she has no problem using it on her own, and possibly even when she gets older/weighs more.
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Not meaning to encourage a debate or get TOO off topic but to be fair, aren't females (specifically breeding ones) less likely to climb than males since they don't have the need to roam the same way males do? Especially during breeding season?
Not saying they are arboreal of course, because I know they're not, but I think if presented with the option some do take the opportunity to try some modest climbing, but is heavily dependent on the individual bp. It could be that Little miss Mazikeen is an exception to the rule, but it probably helps that Starscream did a good job providing a secure climb set-up that she has no problem using it on her own, and possibly even when she gets older/weighs more.
My opinion is the following. Almost all young ball pythons will climb. Some smaller males will continue to climb into adulthood.
I base this on two things. My own personal observations of my not small collection, and the following study http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...50009809386744
Honestly I don't care if people put climbing stuff in with their animals. My reservation with advising it is that the higher the enclosure gets, the harder it is to regulate the environment which for new keepers tends to be one of the more difficult things to do. And I will never advise putting something from outside in a cage with any animal.
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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan
My opinion is the following. Almost all young ball pythons will climb. Some smaller males will continue to climb into adulthood.
I base this on two things. My own personal observations of my not small collection, and the following study http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...50009809386744
Honestly I don't care if people put climbing stuff in with their animals. My reservation with advising it is that the higher the enclosure gets, the harder it is to regulate the environment which for new keepers tends to be one of the more difficult things to do. And I will never advise putting something from outside in a cage with any animal.
Heh I was actually thinking about the same study when I replied! I will fully admit my opinions are purely based on observations and readings, so I have yet to witness first hand experience myself. But overall I think we are in general agreement!
I think the key thing is, if they were arboreal then climbing and vertical space would be a necessity for them to thrive. Since BP's are not, they definitely don't NEED it and can do just fine without it, but would be a nice option that some bp's (males being more likely) may appreciate or at the very least use voluntarily. Providing the set up is secure and making sure husbandry is on point, which of course is first and foremost.
Anyways sorry for getting off topic StarScream! We love your little girl!
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Heh I was actually thinking about the same study when I replied! I will fully admit my opinions are purely based on observations and readings, so I have yet to witness first hand experience myself. But overall I think we are in general agreement!
I think the key thing is, if they were arboreal then climbing and vertical space would be a necessity for them to thrive. Since BP's are not, they definitely don't NEED it and can do just fine without it, but would be a nice option that some bp's (males being more likely) may appreciate or at the very least use voluntarily. Providing the set up is secure and making sure husbandry is on point first of course.
Anyways sorry for getting off topic StarScream! We love your little girl!
Very well said, and starscream we are very sorry for hijacking your thread. At least I stopped talking about horses.
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
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Originally Posted by MissterDog
Heh I was actually thinking about the same study when I replied! I will fully admit my opinions are purely based on observations and readings, so I have yet to witness first hand experience myself. But overall I think we are in general agreement!
I think the key thing is, if they were arboreal then climbing and vertical space would be a necessity for them to thrive. Since BP's are not, they definitely don't NEED it and can do just fine without it, but would be a nice option that some bp's (males being more likely) may appreciate or at the very least use voluntarily. Providing the set up is secure and making sure husbandry is on point, which of course is first and foremost.
Anyways sorry for getting off topic StarScream! We love your little girl!
It's not a case of them needing it , is it really ?
Surely if they choose to climb the branches in a Viv it's because they want to , plus at least it's some kind of exercise which can only be a good thing - we do keep them locked up in little , sometimes tiny containers after all ..
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Lol you're good, I was out for a sick-nap anyways so I didn't notice any replies to the thread until after. Thanks for the input! Definitely something to keep in mind as Maze gets older.
But, Maze-update minus pics because I'm not disturbing her right now: two water bowls make for easy humidity control in a tub! Can't imagine doing this in a glass tank, honestly; they look nice but dang does it sound difficult to keep things static.
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Well, she didn't shed in one whole piece, so I'm going to add some moss to her favorite hide for next time. We finally managed to get rid of all the stuck shed, and she is just too gorgeous ;w;.
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give this girl a medal she cute
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Came home from work, and there she was, climbing again! (I caught her in the act so she started trying to hide from the camera lmao.)
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She ate immediately after these photos, so I guess I won't be seeing her for another two days!
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Maze ate her first rat today, so proud! All I got's crappy photos through the tub, didn't want to disturb her in case she decided it wasn't to her liking, but she took it like a champ! Hungry girl.
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Look at that chub belly! Time to hide lol.
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Like I said, not the best quality, but she took a rat! Yay!
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48 hours later, and we did some holding. She didn't seem too happy to come out at first, but she warmed up to it (quite literally). (Roommate was warm and I was not lol).
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Grainy photos but hilarious, she was trying to hide in the blanket.....
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And back into her cage she goes :3.
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(I really need a better camera... ugh.)
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Went on vacation (three days) and came back to a hungry noodle.
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She seemed almost hesitant to take the rat this time, but we managed to get her to wrap it at last. She grabbed the neck when she struck, and then spent about 30 minutes trying to work her mouth around the neck and the head lol. Afterwards, I found her lying like this in her hide. Very good camouflage artist, she is.
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After that I think she was still in food mode, because she came back out and wandered around, probably looking for more, before she retired.
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I keep forgetting how tiny she is! It's so cute seeing them with an appetite! She's in such good hands <3
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Thanks! She is super tiny ;w;. I can tell she's gotten a bit chubbier, but she's still just an itty bitty thing. Weighed her right before feeding her and she was 78 grams still, despite being 3 months in a week and a half.
Woke up and checked in on her and she was poking around at stuff from the safety of her hide.
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She retreated shortly after that. I managed to capture this video of her and just yes! Yawns! Aaaaah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y7kEMReT_U
Bonus: before vacation, I took her out to show to a friend, and she decided that my phone was the Best Thing Ever and would not let go. My friend was kind enough to take some pics for me, because obviously.... I was kinda... stuck..... lmao.
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Mazikeen is so chunky! She weighs so little but dang, she got the chub chub going on. Loving it! (Note: I'm not aiming to power-feed her, or make her obese, she's just a lot thicker than she was when she arrived, and she looks so good ;w;.)
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Mazikeen had her third f/t rat feeding with me on Monday! I've only fed her twice while she's on her plant, and it's the best feeding response I've gotten from her. Takes her less than a minute to strike, and less than five to get the rat down. Very impressive!
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(That leaf she's wrapped around later collapsed from the weight of the rat.)
Post-feeding she sat on top of the plant for a few hours waiting for more. Hungry bab.
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Today, she got to meet my parents, who seemed utterly terrified by this tiny, gorgeous baby snake. My mom touched her barely, then flinched away when Maze tensed. She's just a curious baby snake who wants to know what's touching her butt! lol.
After they left, I got some pics of her exploring my computer desk :).
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She's so pretty! Did you get her from StillBP?
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She's so pretty! Did you get her from StillBP?
Yep! They make some gorgeous snakes.
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Woke up today and she was very grumpy! She hasn't gone into blue yet, at least as far as I've noticed, but she's definitely darker and has the neck wrinkles, so either I missed her being in blue or she's almost there. I'm leaning towards almost there, because she's fairly opaque.
Today was also cleaning day, so she's got (slightly) new digs :P.
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Ironically super close to the pic the StillBP provided for me when I inquired about her (Body in focus, head long gone!):
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And the revamped digs. It's gonna be harder to spot her, but I'm thinking this will work better for me than the aspen. Aspen gets everywhere.
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Re: Mazikeen progression thread
you have a wonderful tub setup!!!
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