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Venomous collection
Instead of updating various threads, I thought I could consolidate our animals in one post. We've been expanding a bit into arboreal Vipers, and a few more Bitis. We have a 1.1 pair of lubricus lubricus on the way, so lots of excitement here!
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Lake Nakuru Puff Adder, male
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Female Puff Adder
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Our west African Gaboon Viper female - Rosy
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Our west African Gaboon Viper male - Handsome
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A nice feeding shot of our Trans-pecos copperhead thanks to my wife
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Copper, our southern copperhead
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Jafar angry because I took his hide out for better viewing for some guests. Naja siamensis - indochinese spitting cobra
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East Ghana Rhino Viper, Dino
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Chomper Our Gila Monster getting sexed via ultrasound
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Ducky our yearling Gila monster prob female
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Mottled Rock Rattlesnake
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Banded Rock Rattlesnake, Franklin mountain locale, male - Aladdin
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Golden Eyelash Viper
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Toothless, Black Squam
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Mushu, our Red Squam
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Our coral cobra raffia - Aspedilaps lubricus cowlesi
Enjoy! Will post updates in this thread from now on :)
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Really nice. Love the Rhino Viper and the TP Copperhead
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I love their names, particularly Toothless - and they're all beautiful animals!
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they're all just so darn cool. thanks for posting them all in one place!
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You have a lot of beautiful animals. The female gaboon and the copperheads are my favorites. I wish that my lifestyle allowed me to keep but it is not to be. Stay safe.
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You have a lot of beautiful animals. The female gaboon and the copperheads are my favorites. I wish that my lifestyle allowed me to keep but it is not to be. Stay safe.
Cheers. Safety is our number 1 priority. For us and the animals.
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Thanks all :)
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Wonderful update!
I really think the Rhino Viper. The color and pattern is special. How similar in behavior and venom type are they to the Gabby? They look related in many ways.
Quite the changeup from the retics.
Are you still working with retics, or is this current direction too demanding to deal with other species?
We miss you in the retic section, but it is understandable if you have to focus more on this more advanced level of snake keeping.
What is your easiest access to anti-venom if needed? I know you are rather intelligent and have researched all the potential hazards.
I'm just curious if you have it at home, or if you have to be transported. I don't know any "hot" keepers personally so I'm just wondering what the typical plan of action is.
Don't answer if you don't like that question.
Bottom line is you have a very unique group there, and a lot of folks here are eager to learn about them.
Excellent post.
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Great collection thanks for sharing. The golden eyelash and cooperhead are my favs. I really liked the gila monsters also.
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Wonderful update!
I really think the Rhino Viper. The color and pattern is special. How similar in behavior and venom type are they to the Gabby? They look related in many ways.
Quite the changeup from the retics.
Are you still working with retics, or is this current direction too demanding to deal with other species?
We miss you in the retic section, but it is understandable if you have to focus more on this more advanced level of snake keeping.
What is your easiest access to anti-venom if needed? I know you are rather intelligent and have researched all the potential hazards.
I'm just curious if you have it at home, or if you have to be transported. I don't know any "hot" keepers personally so I'm just wondering what the typical plan of action is.
Don't answer if you don't like that question.
Bottom line is you have a very unique group there, and a lot of folks here are eager to learn about them.
Excellent post.
Rhino Vipers are bred to gaboons to produce gabino in captivity and the wild. So they are fairly close genetically. However, their husbandry is quite different. Gaboons can handle warmer environments up to 85-88 without much of an issue, they can be kept around 60% humidity, and generally do well in display enclosures. Rhinos, need to be kept around 70% humidity and need to stay at or below 80 degrees in temp. Gaboons can eat a decent sized meal weekly, rhinos require less food and have a slower metabolism due to temperatures. Most rhinos don't live past a year in captivity, then many of those survivors don't live past 2. They seem to handle variations in conditions at a young age much better than into adulthood. On top of this, different locale of rhinos do differently in different enclosures. Uganda need to be left completely alone for 5-7 days at a time in a tub. Keeping them in a vision or AP display setup will generally lead to their death from stress, even opening their tub daily can lead to death from stress as it did with a good friends. Ghana are the most common and most robust to being in display caging. But they need to grow up in a tub first in order to be strong. Gaboons can go in a display from birth and be happy.
We still have a handful of retics, our big dwarf purple, dwarf white phase het stripe male, super dwarf male and female tigers, golden child HOGS male and Phantom Sunfire Het. Stripe female. It's a lot of work, and I won't be moving any deeper into retics, but we still have plans to produce cows in the future to hopefully see at least a partly return on investment into that project.
Our snakes either have locale antivenin available, no antivenin made for them, or a common polyvalent stocked readily at the zoo about an hour half from here (which is where the expert toxicologist for snake bite is located anyway). I would like to get SAIMR on hand and keep 5 vials always available, but with short shelf life for the cost of it, it's hard to justify when the zoo stocks ample of it since they maintain a collection with many of the snakes listed under the polyvalent. There is a group about 2 hours from here starting an antivenin bank where keepers can join and help pay to keep supplies on hand to guarentee your species are covered. The only specific antivenin I have not been able to confirm if it's local is for the squams since there is no antivenin for this species specifically, but echis is reported to be effective. We have all medical protocols for our species so if worst case happened, we would begin transport to Ben Taub in Houston with protocol in hand and let our toxicologist know we're in route while he preps the AV (he's friends with most local hot keepers on Facebook and post when he goes out drinking or vacation so folks know to avoid risky animals during this time lol).
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Wow. That really escalated quickly. One awesome animal picture after another. :salute:
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Thanks for the rundown. Anybody thinking of keeping hots should study your procedures.
Also thanks for the insight on those vipers. I hope you can keep rihno going into adulthood.
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Thanks for the rundown. Anybody thinking of keeping hots should study your procedures.
Also thanks for the insight on those vipers. I hope you can keep rihno going into adulthood.
That's the idea! I have a friend who has raised them for years, he's been mentoring me on specifics that work well for this species. Heat, stress, being too wet, or being overfed kills rhinos in captivity.
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That's the idea! I have a friend who has raised them for years, he's been mentoring me on specifics that work well for this species. Heat, stress, being too wet, or being overfed kills rhinos in captivity.
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Wow! I would really like to get in touch with you, I've always loved snakes, my fav the gaboons... Shortly I fulfilled a lifelong desire of owning a snake for now a ball python, I hope to progress into a green tree python and one day a gaboon, but before that I have way to many questions.
Thanks for sharing!!! Splendid collection you have
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That's the idea! I have a friend who has raised them for years, he's been mentoring me on specifics that work well for this species. Heat, stress, being too wet, or being overfed kills rhinos in captivity.
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All around great info.
Showing the true passion, care and responsibilities involved. I'd say the "ambassador for the hobby award" could go to you for this latest thread.
I have a book with the picture of a beautiful rhino viper. I thought it may have been the most stunning pattern/color combo I've ever seen.
Also thanks for the update on the retic stuff. Its always nice to re-read your past info and look at the videos.
Well done sir!
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Rosy eating last night
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Fresh food belly
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The girl who is probably the shyest Puff Adder... she'll only eat when I leave the room. Till then she keeps an eye on her food and me.
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Nice selfie stick shot from last night
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And an updated shot with new lighting installed for our trans-pecos copperhead after her meal.
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Incredible collection! The Golden Eyelash Viper...stunning!
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Baby lepidus lepidus when we first got him
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And just because this has been one of my favorite shots of the golden eyelash I'll move it here as well.
Cheers
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Finally did a real photoshoot with the male and female puff adders today.
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And our boy Leo gave a fresh shed. So updated pics of him as well
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Ha, that last one in the tub looks so angry. 'Let me out, and then we'll see who's the tough guy!'
What a beautiful collection though!
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Meanwhile, these guys are trying to help increase the numbers every day:)
Banded Rock Rattlesnakes after the female dropped her fresh shed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...009ac962af.jpg
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Thank you so much for the tour and the insight! There is the fact that reptile reproduction never gets old, but venomous reptile reproduction is truly an amazing accomplishment. Grats. Oh, and i looked up "responsible venomous keeper" and your picture was there. Thanks.. :gj:
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Brought out the pifanorum for some real photos finally. Started using shift boxes again since our adult spitter is getting a little more charging these days. Cleaned the gabino and recovered a nice fang as well as a tooth from our big 14 ft reticulated python!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...22e1b9af5f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a9ff66e6f9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...62c4a2bf13.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3e4febf4a8.jpg
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Our still yet to be named opal eyelash viper and a quick snippet of the infamous toothless, our African Bush viper, chilling on his mosshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...777f8e3a94.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d5e7099acb.jpg
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really awesomwe collection, i love "toothless" ... i was like what kind of viper is toothless... then i put it together ... #howtotrainmydragon... lmfao:D
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Fresh sheds for the bandeds so fresh pic! Hoping the female is Gravid!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c8af708ced.jpg
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Our latest picked up yesterday
European Long-nosed Vipers
Vipera ammodytes ammodytes https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b2115e7426.jpg
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Everything looks good there Cody.
I miss your retic updates a lot, but my curiosity peaks when I see animals that very few people keep.
Very few folks I encounter in the hobby actually come from a biology background and that's where most of my interest lies when it comes to snakes.
Its good to see you pop in here so I'll simply say thanks for the update post!
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Everything looks good there Cody.
I miss your retic updates a lot, but my curiosity peaks when I see animals that very few people keep.
Very few folks I encounter in the hobby actually come from a biology background and that's where most of my interest lies when it comes to snakes.
Its good to see you pop in here so I'll simply say thanks for the update post!
Retics are definitely good still. When we moved about 2-3 years ago, the new house doesn't have massive space for doing videos, so we have to take them outside for even pictures now. The venomous just give us the ability to work with them in a smaller space.
The neat things about venomous is definitely studying the evolutionary behavior that comes with them. Death Adders for instance, are a part of PNG / Australia where no "vipers" exist. Instead they have these awesome little adders that are true elapid (front fixed fangs) with a strong neurotoxin. They resemble vipers in their morphology and behavior. A true "intermediate" species to the link between vipers and elapids!
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Our Male Vipera ammodytes ammodytes enjoying their new enclosures after we finished their 3d backgrounds https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d80d5d8c14.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...05b99bc370.jpg
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Awesome looking collection. I'm getting ready to take my first plunge into venomous but not quite on the scale you are. I'm thinking of getting a Gila or Beaded Lizard as I've always wanted one since a kid.
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Retics are definitely good still. When we moved about 2-3 years ago, the new house doesn't have massive space for doing videos, so we have to take them outside for even pictures now. The venomous just give us the ability to work with them in a smaller space.
The neat things about venomous is definitely studying the evolutionary behavior that comes with them. Death Adders for instance, are a part of PNG / Australia where no "vipers" exist. Instead they have these awesome little adders that are true elapid (front fixed fangs) with a strong neurotoxin. They resemble vipers in their morphology and behavior. A true "intermediate" species to the link between vipers and elapids!
The sound of applause!
Keep the updates coming, and enjoy the adventures of the new home and whatever else comes your way.
I would be grateful if you did another retic video or an update.
You are an asset to this board in many ways, and I hope people appreciate the biology background you bring along too.
Enjoy the rest of the summer.
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