Downsizing Collection 9 snakes up for grab

I am downsizing my collection, so several must go...
Black Blood Python Male 13 m/o $250
Macklott Python 2y/o $250
Breeder pair of Bull snakes $175
06 Jungle carpet python $125
early 06 Retic Python $150
Ball python male 4' proven $150
6 m/o Green tree python $400
3 y/o Emerald Tree Boa $550 YES it can be handle by any one!!!

all are very docile, the GTP is somewhat nippy. but that is because of his age, he will settle down with a little time and patience.
I have listed over $2000 worth of prime snakes... I will take $1700 for all.
shipping is roughly 35-50 dollars depending on location.
you can email me directly or you can call me on my cell phone 256-515-0793
I can email photos

sorry, I forgot my email address
chrisherod@netzero.net

thanks
chris

Here are a few photos
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rjack/etb3.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rjack/etb1.jpg

Now how many will do thiswith there Emerald Tree Boa???
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...uldudothis.jpg

Black Blood Python
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ack/black2.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ack/black1.jpg

I'll post more as soon as I can get them upload on photobucket. I live out in the sticks for Dial up is all I have.
Chris

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Originally Posted by crackerjack

Now how many will do this with there Emerald Tree Boa???
Chris

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No one if the emerald is healthy. That one is not.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

No one if the emerald is healthy. That one is not.

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Its not really my place but...HOW RUDE! There is absolutely no way you can say that with confidence by those pictures. I hate i when I see people portray a species a certain way and then automatically assume something is wrong with it when it doesn't fit the description! I have seen and read about plenty of people who will agree that arboreal's are nippy but that doesn't mean they can never be handled or that there are not exceptions.

Why isn't it healthy? or am I missing something here?

yea i think i might be missing something also.

I think the point that SPJ is trying to make which I cannot back up is that you can only hold your ETB that close to your face if it is sick/unhealthy.

Look at the neck and head. That is not a healthy emmie.

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Its not really my place but...HOW RUDE! There is absolutely no way you can say that with confidence by those pictures. I hate i when I see people portray a species a certain way and then automatically assume something is wrong with it when it doesn't fit the description! I have seen and read about plenty of people who will agree that arboreal's are nippy but that doesn't mean they can never be handled or that there are not exceptions.

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Look at a healthy emeralds neck, head, and the sides of it's body.
This one looks seriously dehydrated.

I've looked it over a few time's and see nothing wrong...

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Look at the neck and head. That is not a healthy emmie.

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before jumping to conclusions.... that pic is extremely blurry and is very hard to judge a snake.

The images to me are just to unclear to make my own assumption and I openly admit not having a lot of knowledge specifically about ETB's I can't "see" any problems. However with your/SPJ's assumed ability to point out specific things, I can now see "something".

I apologize, I was making assumptions myself which was wrong. I took it as the animal was unhealthy solely because it was being handled.

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Originally Posted by TekWarren

The images to me are just to unclear to make my own assumption and I openly admit not having a lot of knowledge specifically about ETB's I can't "see" any problems. However with your/SPJ's assumed ability to point out specific things, I can now see "something".

I apologize, I was making assumptions myself which was wrong. I took it as the animal was unhealthy solely because it was being handled.

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the snake is definetly a little"thin" i just think we need clearer pics to make such assumptions. i cant imagine a docile etb being handled close to the face as its practily asking to be bit.

I agree with Steve. That is not a stellar-looking ETB. Its looks dehydrated and underweight (even for an arboreal).

its nice to know that this forum is full of vets and experts
That means the vet that she has been going to for the last year, has go to be a "quack" and should not be in the vet business ans should have his liscence revoked!!
For one, the Emerald, she was used in shows at school, pet store and other places for a year and a half, and therfor was handle quite a bit before I got her. Actually I can show you 3 more Emeralds that can be handled with no Problem and one was a wild caught hatchling.
Two the GTP, I've only had for about a month, and was told that she was about 5 months at the time. I'm sorry I wasn't there to witness the birth.
Both Snakes are keep with the Humidity at or between 80-85% and the temp between 82 and 86 degrees.
But If you know anything about GTP and ETB than you know that it is very possible that they can be handle and that they can be very docile.
But everyone is entitled to their personal opinion, oh yeah that what has happened to this country today... too many of them

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its nice to know that this forum is full of vets and experts

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Not far from it. :colbert:

What I think everyone is saying is that they need more info.

I will try to get more photos of the Emerald, and pos. a video. showing clearer and more detail. Trust ME, if I had a doubt that she would bite, and I know that she has a mouth, and that she could bite, do you think that I would have had her so close to my face??? That my friends is trust and confidence in her. I am not saying that she would not bite, but just that she has never attempted to nor has she biten me or anyone else that I know of.
Sorry about the last post... just had to blow off a little steam.

I honestly don't care about the snake's temperament....but I know for sure that judging by those pics that snake is not in the best of health. It looks dehydrated and underweight. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.

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Originally Posted by Beardo

The proof is in the pudding, as they say.

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They might say it, but they'd be wrong. That's a contraction of the saying "The proof of the pudding is in the eating", i.e. it may look pretty, but how does it taste? It's a perfectly logical phrase reduced to babble by the loss of a few words somewhere along the way.

This has been an emergency broadcast of the Public Colloquialisms Service. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

Only you Jess, Only you! HAHAHA :P

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They might say it, but they'd be wrong. That's a contraction of the saying "The proof of the pudding is in the eating", i.e. it may look pretty, but how does it taste? It's a perfectly logical phrase reduced to babble by the loss of a few words somewhere along the way.

This has been an emergency broadcast of the Public Colloquialisms Service. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

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"The proof of the pudding is in the eating".

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When I was a boy scout, I once ate rattlesnake. I have no idea what the name of the snake that I ate was, but IT WAS GOOD! In Korea, I ate dog meat, that was ok. I absolutley loath the slurpy things of the ocean (octopus, squid, oysters, muscles, etc.)

However, I am, absolutely, not interested in eating a Green Tree Python.:snake2:

Can we get a shot of the the Jungle Carpet?

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Originally Posted by crackerjack

its nice to know that this forum is full of vets and experts
That means the vet that she has been going to for the last year, has go to be a "quack" and should not be in the vet business ans should have his liscence revoked!!
For one, the Emerald, she was used in shows at school, pet store and other places for a year and a half, and therfor was handle quite a bit before I got her. Actually I can show you 3 more Emeralds that can be handled with no Problem and one was a wild caught hatchling.
Two the GTP, I've only had for about a month, and was told that she was about 5 months at the time. I'm sorry I wasn't there to witness the birth.
Both Snakes are keep with the Humidity at or between 80-85% and the temp between 82 and 86 degrees.
But If you know anything about GTP and ETB than you know that it is very possible that they can be handle and that they can be very docile.
But everyone is entitled to their personal opinion, oh yeah that what has happened to this country today... too many of them

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i own both species and wouldnt be very surprised to see a docile gtp. but i have never in my life seen an even somewhat docile etb that is healthy. one was decent but turned out to have an ri. funny eh? post a video. also post a pic of him on a scale:)

Since everyone was concerned about the health of the Emerald, I took her to a different vet today. I'll post the contact info on the vet at the bottom of this post if anyone would like to call and verfy the info. She got a clean bill of health, and was slightly under weight (15 oz), she said that she would like to see her about 19-20 oz. She was neg on an RI. I was told to move her from mice to rats pups/fuzzies for the extra fat content.
So, if anyone would like to see the report I will be more than happy to scan it and place it on her.
Vet Info
Dr. Drummond
Rainbow City Pet Clinic
Rainbow City, AL
256-442-1877

I was completmented on how docile she was, and they were very amazed by her. Feel free to contact them if you'd like.

I will get a photo of the Jungle Carpet up shortly.
CJ

Jungle Carpet Photos... By the way he is getting ready to shed...
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rjack/jcp2.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...erjack/JCP.jpg

I'm sorry that that snake looks like it is dried out... Don't get me wrong I'm not familiar with JCPs at all and I'm not sure how they look when it is time to shed. But If I owned that snake and it looked like that I would take it to a vet.

cracker,


you do realize 15 oz is just about a pound? that is pretty underweight.

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I'm sorry that that snake looks like it is dried out... Don't get me wrong I'm not familiar with JCPs at all and I'm not sure how they look when it is time to shed. But If I owned that snake and it looked like that I would take it to a vet.

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Kyle, Once again you are talking about something you know little about. You just stated you know nothing about JCPs. but that does not stop you from giving advice!
You send me PMs telling me that Im misrepesenting my Lemon pastels, because you are buying one from Adam and the two are Different!
Dude, you do not have to post every thought you have or send an insulting PM, just because you think that you know more than someone else!

Sometimes.....Just ask yourself..Will I improve upon the silence if I speak.

First Thanks EClark...

and Uro1001
Yes I am aware that 15oz is just short of a pound, but are you aware tht 19-20 oz is alittle over a pound.
First I tell you what I found out, than I tell you what I was told to correct it. My god what do you want me to do???? Do you have a freaking vet that you want me to take it to?? wiggle my nose??? we are talking 4-5 oz's, that is not extremely under weight.
What do you recommend??? you seem like the expert here... Do you have a recommended weight chart?? that take lenght, girth, and age and gives you the correct weight?
you have not seen the snake, only some burry photos, even you said that they were blurry. you don't know how long she is or the girth size, but you can sit there and insult everything about her. If you want to buy her than buy her. If not than leave it alone.

The Ball has been sold...

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First Thanks EClark...

and Uro1001
Yes I am aware that 15oz is just short of a pound, but are you aware tht 19-20 oz is alittle over a pound.

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I know absolutely nothing about the species in question, but I can do basic math and that sounds like 25% underweight. I can't think of any species in which weighing 75% of normal is healthy.

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I know absolutely nothing about the species in question, but I can do basic math and that sounds like 25% underweight. I can't think of any species in which weighing 75% of normal is healthy.

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for some one who know nothing about the ETB, you sure do have alot to say...

well since everyone has pretty much said something about the ETB, JCP Well lets hear what you have to say about the rest

This Retic, finished shedding out tonight will get you another photo later
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...erjack/rtp.jpg

the Macklot Python, shedding as well
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rjack/Mack.jpg

6 m/o GTP
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ack/gtp002.jpg
can't wait to hear what you have to say about this one...

I am no expert on retics, but that one looks a little underweight and dehydrated as well.

That retic is way too dry and looks under weight to me as well. The Macklots doesn't look too bad off, the GTP looks a bit off though I can't put my finger on it.

Cracker, it might seem as though people are attacking you but really we all just have the best interest of the animals at heart. Perhaps you should take to heart some of what has been said here and use it to improve your husbandry.

The retic, I've had for only 2 weeks, the guy I got it from, a friend of a friend, is heading to Iraq, (actually already there) and he asked me to sell them for him, he also had the Macklot and bullsnakes plus several others that he had in which have already been sold.
the GTP is a mean little devil that I got less than a month ago. If you think that he looks bad now, you should have seen him when I got him. Dry shed, and he had an RI and covered in mites. But now he has completely turned around. Still a mean little devil. but he is eating vry well and no Mites.
the photo of the Retic, Macklot, and the JCP were taken the day that I was cleaning tanks. SO yes, they were probably dry. Dehydrated NO... The retic and Macklot pretty much live in the water bowl.

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Kyle, Once again you are talking about something you know little about. You just stated you know nothing about JCPs. but that does not stop you from giving advice!
You send me PMs telling me that Im misrepesenting my Lemon pastels, because you are buying one from Adam and the two are Different!
Dude, you do not have to post every thought you have or send an insulting PM, just because you think that you know more than someone else!

Sometimes.....Just ask yourself..Will I improve upon the silence if I speak.

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Your way off man. In no way at all was I offering any advice I made that clear by stating I knew nothing about them! I was simply stating my opinion and I believe I have every right to do so.

You completely took my PM wrong. No where in it does it say I think you are misrepreseting your lemon pastels. I was simply asking about orange color in them. I have seen a few lemon pastels and none with orange yet. I simply pm'd you to learn. I was confused and hoped you could help clear it up. Instead you respond like I just sent a mass email out saying that you are misrepresenting them. Maybe you should take a second go back and reread the PM. I did not mean to insult you.

Retic and Emerald have been SOLD

so what do you have left for sale? are they all you own critters?

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Your way off man. In no way at all was I offering any advice I made that clear by stating I knew nothing about them! I was simply stating my opinion and I believe I have every right to do so.

You completely took my PM wrong. No where in it does it say I think you are misrepreseting your lemon pastels. I was simply asking about orange color in them. I have seen a few lemon pastels and none with orange yet. I simply pm'd you to learn. I was confused and hoped you could help clear it up. Instead you respond like I just sent a mass email out saying that you are misrepresenting them. Maybe you should take a second go back and reread the PM. I did not mean to insult you.

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"Nerd Line Pastels ? yours seem to resemble the graziani line more than anything..." this is an exact quote. you did not have to send the mass email. you implied that my pastels were not what I said they were! The ad for the pastels is still up, sorry but I cant see the orange that you see. They are not the very best quality, as pastels are graded and these are $200.00 ones. Trust me, I can burn your eyes out with a brite yellow lemon pastel. but dont expect to pay $200.00 :hijackd:

Jesus H man.....do you have any NON-dehydrated snakes?!?! That Jungle & Retic are flat out TERRIBLE looking. Those animals are not simply in shed, they are SEVERELY dehydrated and emaciated. I am stunned by what I've seen here.

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First Thanks EClark...

and Uro1001
Yes I am aware that 15oz is just short of a pound, but are you aware tht 19-20 oz is alittle over a pound.
First I tell you what I found out, than I tell you what I was told to correct it. My god what do you want me to do???? Do you have a freaking vet that you want me to take it to?? wiggle my nose??? we are talking 4-5 oz's, that is not extremely under weight.
What do you recommend??? you seem like the expert here... Do you have a recommended weight chart?? that take lenght, girth, and age and gives you the correct weight?
you have not seen the snake, only some burry photos, even you said that they were blurry. you don't know how long she is or the girth size, but you can sit there and insult everything about her. If you want to buy her than buy her. If not than leave it alone.

The Ball has been sold...

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ok cracker,

you posted tons of snake pics that are underweight. what do you expect? a medal for not feeding your snakes well? because if it isnt that then it is intestional parasites. you told me the etb is 15 oz underweight. that is about 25% which is pretty devastating to a thin bodied snake. why dont you stop taking pictures from your cell phone becuase they are clearly misleading many bpnet members due to the lack of a good camera when you should be posting clear pics when you have an animal for sale. have fun selling your unhealthy animals to unexpecting victoms:)

you think that she is 15 oz underweight??? maybe you need to learn to read man... she is only 4 oz underweight. Before you started jumping all over someone real the thread dude.

Those poor snakes. Hopefully the people that purchased them knew they were getting animals that are not in the best of health.

Please put a humid hide in with that JCP. That shed is going downhill fast and bad sheds can cause alot of trouble for young carpet pythons.

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she is only 4 oz underweight.

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Underweight is underweight....it could be 4 oz or 10 oz....really does not make any difference.

Its very obvious that the Retic and Jungle had multiple retained eye caps, which if not treated could result in the loss of the use of their eye(s). They've got this new thing out that works wonders for this kind of situation.......its called water, maybe you've heard of it.

I've held back what I have to say because I have no experience with some of the snakes to make a judgement call on ur animals. However, I must go with my gut instinct and say that both the Retic and the Carpet python look emaciated to my eyes. You should under all circumstances consider not making the sale until you've had a chance to bring their "condition" back up to par. :twocents:

Ok. I don't want to be attacked for claiming to know everything there is to know about every snake in the world. I'm a lowly casual BP owner. BUT, I do have an opinion, all be it not a professional one. I agree with what many have said. Some of the snakes do appear dehydrated and/or underweight. If nothing else, take to heart what seems to be the general concensus: something is wrong with your photos at best, your snakes at worst.

If I were in the market for another snake as a casual owner, I most certainly would not buy one from you based on what I've seen in the photos.

:please: put the needs of those snakes first and get them up to perfect health :please:

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Jesus H man.....do you have any NON-dehydrated snakes?!?! That Jungle & Retic are flat out TERRIBLE looking. Those animals are not simply in shed, they are SEVERELY dehydrated and emaciated. I am stunned by what I've seen here.

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Oh man you are 100% right with that!!!!
Those animals look HORRIBLE!!!!

I don't know much at all about ETB and carpet pythons except for what I have read and seen here. I have to say those poor snakes look horrible compared to the pics of "healthy" snakes that I have seen posted here. As for the snakes that are in shed...even after only owning my bp for almost 6 mths...I know that a healthy snake and a good shed DO NOT LOOK LIKE THAT!