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  • 02-16-2013, 12:48 AM
    adamsky27
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    So I'm watching Animal Planet, the show "Intervention." They think the guy has too many snakes (the reason for the show). Anyway, I saw his retic and recognized him from this site. Anybody else recognize him?
  • 02-16-2013, 12:49 AM
    DooLittle
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    I haven't seen it. Got a link???

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  • 02-16-2013, 12:51 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Lol I wonder how many snakes is too many.


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  • 02-16-2013, 12:56 AM
    adamsky27
    Well the reason kinda shifted. Now they are saying they are worried for him due to the way he handles the HOTS. I'm pretty sure his username is Denial. I think he posted photos of his retics a few months back.
  • 02-16-2013, 12:57 AM
    DooLittle
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    What??? I've seen him post before. He has some really cool snakes! I'm going to go have to see if its on demand to watch.

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  • 02-16-2013, 01:01 AM
    adamsky27
    Yeah, turn it on! lol
  • 02-16-2013, 01:04 AM
    MarkS
    Animal planet? Oh God, I can just imagine how bad they're going to make a hot keeper look. How can anybody be so starved for attention that they would voluntarily go on a show like that?
  • 02-16-2013, 01:05 AM
    adamsky27
    Yeah it made him look bad. Really bad.
  • 02-16-2013, 01:21 AM
    Joshua Jasper
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Just watched the whole episode and Animal Planet of course skewed it. Unfortunately he did not help our cause as he was no prepared to handle the HOTS and was putting his family at risk with a poorly contained environment for venomous snakes. Definitely did a disservice to responsible keepers out there. They would of had no leg to stand (if not for HOTS) because he actually had a great husbandry with his Retics, Boas, and Ball Pythons. The ending of the episode set our cause back I am sure.
  • 02-16-2013, 02:01 AM
    Daybreaker
    I just finished watching Fatal Attractions: Secret Snakes on Animal Planet but didn't see any show called Intervention? A link perhaps?
  • 02-16-2013, 02:02 AM
    DooLittle
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    I just finished watching Fatal Attractions: Secret Snakes on Animal Planet but didn't see any show called Intervention? A link perhaps?

    Same here. Fatal Attraction is on later and we set it to record. But no "Intervention".

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  • 02-16-2013, 02:17 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Link please?
  • 02-16-2013, 02:24 AM
    Joshua Jasper
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    Link please?

    http://press.discovery.com/uk/apl/pr...-intervention/

    I can't find any info but it is an off shoot of Fatal Attractions....can't stand the host guy

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrDooLittle View Post
    Same here. Fatal Attraction is on later and we set it to record. But no "Intervention".

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    It was on right after regular Fatal Attractions
  • 02-16-2013, 02:36 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Fatal Attraction isn't on our animal channel.. :/
  • 02-16-2013, 02:52 AM
    treeboa
    The show's not on the US version of the website either. I hate Animal Planet now. When it started (back in the Steve Irwin days) it was about educating people about animals. Now it's about sensationalism and scaring the uninformed public.
  • 02-16-2013, 03:11 AM
    adamsky27
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    That is weird. You are right about the name of the show, my "guide" on my cable called it Intervention. Weird. Sorry for any confusion
  • 02-16-2013, 05:45 AM
    771subliminal
    anyone catch when the episode is gonna re-air?
  • 02-16-2013, 06:26 AM
    Mike41793
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Animal planet? Oh God, I can just imagine how bad they're going to make a hot keeper look. How can anybody be so starved for attention that they would voluntarily go on a show like that?

    x2
  • 02-16-2013, 10:08 AM
    Shadera
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Watched it. Don't have any idea who the guy is, but his arrogant attitude of "I'm gonna call you when I'm 80 and brag about how I worked with hots my entire life and never got bit" was more than a little offputting. Sure, the channel may have skewed some things a bit, they always do, but I couldn't have been the only one crapping my pants every time he put his hands within easy strike range of those hots. He also had no antivenin on hand, or a plan in place for if he was bitten for his family to follow. He's an accident waiting to happen, and someday his luck WILL run out.

    Who was the older fellow that was trying to make this guy use some common sense? I tuned in a few minutes after it started, and it never said who he was. Crutchfield?

    ETA - FOund a tiny bit of info on it, but no links to full show.
    http://press.discovery.com/uk/apl/pr...-intervention/

    Guy's name was Danny Steele. There are some photos of him at the link.
  • 02-16-2013, 06:21 PM
    MarkS
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadera View Post

    Who was the older fellow that was trying to make this guy use some common sense? I tuned in a few minutes after it started, and it never said who he was. Crutchfield?

    ETA - FOund a tiny bit of info on it, but no links to full show.
    http://press.discovery.com/uk/apl/pr...-intervention/

    Guy's name was Danny Steele. There are some photos of him at the link.

    I believe the hosts name is Winston Card. Here is another link from this site with a bit more info. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...3-Winston-Card

    I also looked up Cape Fear Serpentarium, seems that they have a few things to say about the show as well... http://www.capefearserpentarium.com/
  • 02-16-2013, 06:30 PM
    Wes
    Haven't seen the show but I have a link to a story about something that went down with Danny Steele and Animal planet. Might be the same thing.
    http://www.capefearserpentarium.com/DannySteele.pdf
  • 02-16-2013, 06:39 PM
    dave21
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Just watched that show last night. Its crazy how animal planet makes people who have reptiles look crazy. Its a shame how these shows have such uneducated facts on reptiles. And if someone owns more then one snake we are animal hoarders. One show said ball pythons were a danger. These idiotic shows are why all our exotic pets we love and care for will be slowly taken away from us. I agree that the guy had no clue how to handle his hot snakes but all his other snakes looked pretty well cared for. Some owners give all of us reptile owners bad reputations.
  • 02-16-2013, 08:35 PM
    C&H Exotic Morphs
    Here is another article from Dean Ripa of Cape Fear Serpentarium. This one is about when the IDIOTS of Animal Planet and Fatal Attraction showed up to film an episode about him working with and handling hots.
    http://www.capefearserpentarium.com/...ttractions.pdf

    For those jumping all over Danny Steele "Denial" for his "handling" techniques you may want to bite your tongue(or atleast think twice) and realize that the people involved in this show will go out of their way to create these "dangerous/deadly" situations! They can edit anything you say to make you look "crazy or bad" and I'm sure they do the same with the video to make it look more dangerous than it really is!

    So before jumping on 1 of our fellow herpers and BP.net members, think and do your research first! Maybe newer members don't know that AP is only out for ratings and money, but most of us on here do know that they don't care about the truth and will do whatever they can to get the ratings that they want.
  • 02-16-2013, 09:14 PM
    schrammalot
    I don't know much about the herp field (yet), but I do know a crapton about hedgehogs. The Too Cute episode that was just aired on them had cameras harassing a mother with day old babies and absolute disregard of their health and safety.
  • 02-16-2013, 09:52 PM
    Rawbbeh
    Interesting...

    Although not surprising...there's a reason i steer clear from just about every dang *reality* show out there. Give me more shows like Battlestar Galactica and Southpark. Plotline and humor. Perfect for me.
  • 02-17-2013, 12:08 AM
    snake8myelbo
    Watched this show! Thought he handled some of the hots carelessly. Also that flimsy door and his kids 30 feet from the retics. my wife thinks my ball pythons can kill and eat a baby now!
  • 02-17-2013, 12:23 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Fatal attractions isn't even on animal planet on our tv :(
  • 02-17-2013, 12:42 AM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Ugh I really wish we could sacrifice some of the suck-people today to bring Steve Irwin back and have him make Animal Planet what it should be again. Would anyone really mind if Snooki or Nicki Minaj were gone and Steve was back?? If more are needed there's plenty of suck-people.

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  • 02-17-2013, 05:07 PM
    Shadera
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs View Post
    So before jumping on 1 of our fellow herpers and BP.net members, think and do your research first! Maybe newer members don't know that AP is only out for ratings and money, but most of us on here do know that they don't care about the truth and will do whatever they can to get the ratings that they want.

    You mean, like you're doing? Nah, no hypocrites here.

    I didn't jump on anyone. Good lord, you make it sound like people are screaming for his head. Come down off that lofty perch and have a nice big drink of this - it's called harsh reality. It boggles my mind that anyone would lack the common sense and allow themselves to be filmed for any tv show that focuses on snakes. When has it ever been fair? When in the last few years has it ever been positive? Who has their head that far into the sand, or that far up their hind end? Was it really the tv station's fault for spinning something we all know they'll spin, or the fault of the person who allowed it to happen? Staged scenarios or not, that is the sort of stuff they're using as ammo against us, and he sure gave it to them willingly.
  • 02-17-2013, 05:19 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadera View Post
    You mean, like you're doing? Nah, no hypocrites here.

    I didn't jump on anyone. Good lord, you make it sound like people are screaming for his head. Come down off that lofty perch and have a nice big drink of this - it's called harsh reality. It boggles my mind that anyone would lack the common sense and allow themselves to be filmed for any tv show that focuses on snakes. When has it ever been fair? When in the last few years has it ever been positive? Who has their head that far into the sand, or that far up their hind end? Was it really the tv station's fault for spinning something we all know they'll spin, or the fault of the person who allowed it to happen? Staged scenarios or not, that is the sort of stuff they're using as ammo against us, and he sure gave it to them willingly.


    I'm certain the point was not to defend silly actions, but rather pointing out that it's importany not to jduge without knowing the full story, or without actually knowing who this person was. The post was a reminder to think before you speak.

    We should also be careful about throwing around associations without any confirmation to back it up. This is how bad rumors get spread about people that were never involved.
  • 02-18-2013, 03:18 PM
    CaptainSlayer
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Hey you lot, I created this account just to let you know you're right. His user is "Denial" - I am his brother (Tyler Steele).

    I'm glad to see you seem to see through the BS that this show was. :P

    If you have any questions feel free to ask.

    https://www.facebook.com/tyler.steele.9615
  • 02-18-2013, 03:26 PM
    CaptainSlayer
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave21 View Post
    Just watched that show last night. Its crazy how animal planet makes people who have reptiles look crazy. Its a shame how these shows have such uneducated facts on reptiles. And if someone owns more then one snake we are animal hoarders. One show said ball pythons were a danger. These idiotic shows are why all our exotic pets we love and care for will be slowly taken away from us. I agree that the guy had no clue how to handle his hot snakes but all his other snakes looked pretty well cared for. Some owners give all of us reptile owners bad reputations.

    Also; Sorry for the double post but I'd like to note that the way they portrayed my brother handling his snakes was mostly camera magic. Including when he placed his hand in the tank and it was empty.
  • 02-18-2013, 03:41 PM
    dave21
    A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainSlayer View Post
    Also; Sorry for the double post but I'd like to note that the way they portrayed my brother handling his snakes was mostly camera magic. Including when he placed his hand in the tank and it was empty.

    Yea I rewatched the show again after this fourm on demand and saw how they tricked the viewers. As I said he takes care of all his snakes very well, his attitude about how he will never get bit is a little arrogant because you will never know what will happen in the future even experts get bit. Animal planet is garbage now i never watch their channel because of how they portray snakes and their keepers. It is sad how they made your brother look like such a bad keeper and try and give all us snake keepers a bad name.
  • 02-18-2013, 03:52 PM
    Annarose15
    Denial has always been willing to help herpers on this site adn has excellent information. I have personally contacted him with multiple questions when I was considering rescuing a retic. To the point, I have zero trouble believing that the sensational spin was all in the camera magic. Although I agree that we should avoid giving fodder to the ignorant cattle, we also shouldn't hide and feed the image that we are antisocial freaks that deep-down "know" we are doing something degenerate by keeping reptiles.
  • 02-18-2013, 06:58 PM
    Willie76
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Well, I am appalled...and a squeaky wheel. For those of you who care to join me, I have sent Discovery Communications a message demanding they get Fatal Attractions off the air. You can send them a message too...here:

    http://corporate.discovery.com/conta...wer-relations/

    The more the better. I CANNOT stand the unethical behavior in this series....The more the merrier!
  • 02-20-2013, 05:48 PM
    Willie76
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Obviously an auto-generated response, but here is what I got today:

    Quote:

    Dear Viewer:

    Thank you for contacting Animal Planet. We appreciate your correspondence
    and for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns with us about
    Fatal Attractions.

    In an effort to ensure the highest quality programming, comments such as
    these are taken very seriously. Each and every comment is forwarded on to
    our programming executives for review and consideration. Maintaining the
    integrity of all of our networks is our primary goal. It is these types of
    comments that contribute to creating change and improving our programming.

    Again, thank you for contacting Animal Planet.

    Sincerely,

    Viewer Relations
    Animal Planet
  • 02-22-2013, 09:27 PM
    Denial
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Anatopism View Post
    I'm certain the point was not to defend silly actions, but rather pointing out that it's importany not to jduge without knowing the full story, or without actually knowing who this person was. The post was a reminder to think before you speak.

    We should also be careful about throwing around associations without any confirmation to back it up. This is how bad rumors get spread about people that were never involved.

    I'm Danny Steele's mother! (Thankfully, he left his screen name and password saved on my laptop)

    Thank you all for "backing up" my son. This show was very misconstrued. Danny and his entire family were lied to by Winston Card and the producers regarding this show. We were betrayed by them all. The show that we all were to appear was titled "Living with Predators", not Fatal Attractions - Intervention. The show were to appear in was to educate the public who are so afraid of snakes and to show that they can be pets. They even filmed Danny at the elementary school educating possibly YOUR children, but, of course, none of this was aired.

    I'm not a fan of snakes of any kind, but I have been proven to by my son, that he has the safety of his family and everyone else that's around in his best interest!!

    With that being said....until you know all facts, it's not wise to judge anyone!!


    ~Carolyn
  • 02-22-2013, 09:38 PM
    wilomn
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    I'm Danny Steele's mother! (Thankfully, he left his screen name and password saved on my laptop)

    Thank you all for "backing up" my son. This show was very misconstrued. Danny and his entire family were lied to by Winston Card and the producers regarding this show. We were betrayed by them all. The show that we all were to appear was titled "Living with Predators", not Fatal Attractions - Intervention. The show were to appear in was to educate the public who are so afraid of snakes and to show that they can be pets. They even filmed Danny at the elementary school educating possibly YOUR children, but, of course, none of this was aired.

    I'm not a fan of snakes of any kind, but I have been proven to by my son, that he has the safety of his family and everyone else that's around in his best interest!!

    With that being said....until you know all facts, it's not wise to judge anyone!!


    ~Carolyn

    Except that, because he is a well liked member here who does participate fairly often, he really should have known how this would turn out. We've had people scout this site and attempt to get people to do just what he did, appear on their show. And those people have been, and hopefully always will be, shown the virtual door lickety-split.

    Were there contracts that guaranteed anything? Do you have any emails, text messages, papers of any sort assuring you that things would be done as you were told? If not, while a darn shame, the fault lies squarely with your son. He should have known better. We've all seen it happen before.

    Facts are fine, but so is common sense. The fact is he got snookered and common sense should have told him that would happen if he participated in the show.

    I kinda gotta shake my head at the whole thing.
  • 02-24-2013, 11:10 AM
    Denial
    Whoa mom insane breach of privacy right there....Noted to never use your computer again. I have not responded to this because im still checking into what I can exactly say without being sued. But would like to personally thank the people on here that can see past the bs and have supported me. Anyone else that would like to know anything for the time being please pm me or facebook message me.
  • 02-24-2013, 11:50 AM
    mechnut450
    I not seen what the show ( too busy and really never cared for the lies they show on there) but man I would think the best you could do was along the line of breach of contract and that they used such to defame( proper words lacking as still jet lag( feeling) from hamburg show) of your character and such is my opinion but I not sure as I not watch the ep yet ( if anyone got the info like season and ep number I look it up later today if I get to use the TV to pull it up.
  • 02-24-2013, 12:44 PM
    Pythonfriend
    why didnt danny call the police as this happened?

    if a camera crew turns out to be a bunch of lunatics and harass you and taunt your snakes and threaten and try emotional blackmail, culminating in an attempt to steal all the snakes, why hasnt the police been called?

    is the police so bad that people do not call it because it would only make things worse?
  • 02-24-2013, 05:58 PM
    captainjack0000
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    For those who may want to seek out the show later, can anyone give the name of the show and the epsiode title or a season and episode number?
  • 02-24-2013, 06:06 PM
    captainjack0000
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    I think I have it figured out, and it is bummer that i can't find it online anywhere.

    The show is called Fatal Attractions:Intervention It would appear to be the pilot episode or season 1 episode 1

    Here I was looking for secret snakes or Intervention (which is a show on A&E). Too much confusion. I didn't want to contribute to the conversation without seeing the evidence so to speak. Looks like I can't see the evidence.
  • 03-02-2013, 12:09 AM
    adamsky27
    I just listened to Urban Jungles Radio interview with Danny. I won't be watching that channel anymore. Cheers to Danny, knowing what all he's had to put up with.
  • 03-02-2013, 06:44 AM
    Mr Oni
    I watched this show last week and saw how it was a blown out fear factory, scary background music and all.
    I will say they did a good job making Dan look like a window licker but his husbandry and snakes looked good and thats when i realized something was off.

    Never get bit? Good luck with that.

    The show had only negative things to say about owning herps.
    The whole thing surprised me that a herptologist was in no way trying to educate the viewers other than saying crap to scare people.
  • 03-02-2013, 10:59 AM
    kitedemon
    I work as a photographer, I shoot print ads often, most of the time actually. Photographs lie, that is my job to represent the best possible view of something and evoke the targeted feeling (the marketing people decide) with lighting and effects. I have a lot of friends in the media, media always manipulates the truth and skews the story to what will sell. Every notice how spokes people say very little and often refuse to say more? It makes it harder to alter if you say very little or if you repeat the exact same statement over and over.

    The trust between a photographer and model or media crew and subject is very deep. Sadly many models/subjects fail to understand this. They fail to understand that the level of trust is at least that of taking a new lover, 'getting in bed with the media' is apt. There are always those that will take advantage of peoples blind trust/ or innocence for their own gain. I am sorry that Dan and family had the media use you like they did. I have not seen the show nor do I want to. The fact Dan is being careful shows there are a lot of paper to cover the crew and show/producers. I expect the truth will not be seen on TV but is somewhere else.
  • 03-02-2013, 11:44 AM
    TheSnakeGuy
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    I still miss Steve Irwin. My hero. He died on my 21st birthday. Animal Planet just isn't the same anymore.
  • 03-02-2013, 12:55 PM
    ballbuster
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Does anyone else have an uncontrollable urge to beat this Card character into a bloody pulp?! This is infuriating.... Denial I have a lot of respect for you for not kicking his ass on your front lawn
  • 03-02-2013, 01:38 PM
    Kaorte
    I have yet to see the episode, but after reading some articles about winston card, and listening to the UJR interview... WOW. JUST WOW.

    For future reference, never let ANYONE from a network show film me or my animals. :( This is so awful. Animal planet has degraded so much since we lost Steve Irwin. The whole channel is just about making people afraid of animals. WHAT. WHY. :(
  • 03-05-2013, 02:07 PM
    rick*star
    Re: A member is on TV! (Intervention)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I have yet to see the episode, but after reading some articles about winston card, and listening to the UJR interview... WOW. JUST WOW.

    For future reference, never let ANYONE from a network show film me or my animals. :( This is so awful. Animal planet has degraded so much since we lost Steve Irwin. The whole channel is just about making people afraid of animals. WHAT. WHY. :(

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