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  • 06-23-2009, 02:38 PM
    SGExotics
    How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    I've alwasy wondered how some breeders have their own lines of morphs.. For example, Theres The Graziani Line Of Pastels, Theres The Nerd Line, etc... What do you have to do in order to have your own line? Just produce something and call it your line? Or is it that, Everyone has their own lines but some are better than others so some are more heard of? IDK! Please help me, im very confused hahaha
  • 06-23-2009, 02:40 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    You have to import a new morph. Or you have to import a new animal from one of the existing morphs straight from Africa.

    Or produce something completely new.
  • 06-23-2009, 02:45 PM
    SGExotics
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    You have to import a new morph. Or you have to import a new animal from one of the existing morphs straight from Africa.

    Or produce something completely new.

    How do you do that? haha, so grazianni imported there line of pastels from africa??
  • 06-23-2009, 02:46 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DBD View Post
    How do you do that? haha, so grazianni imported there line of pastels from africa??

    Yep they did around the same time as NERD did.
  • 06-23-2009, 03:13 PM
    kellysballs
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    I actually went to a Central florida Herp meeting that Graziani was speaking at (Nate and Alice where there too :D). Greg said that he had a friend who was an importer and he would help his friend unpack the shipments. Greg found his origonal pastel in one of those shipments.
  • 06-23-2009, 03:16 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kellysballs View Post
    I actually went to a Central florida Herp meeting that Graziani was speaking at (Nate and Alice where there too :D). Greg said that he had a friend who was an importer and he would help his friend unpack the shipments. Greg found his origonal pastel in one of those shipments.

    Right...
  • 06-23-2009, 03:17 PM
    SGExotics
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    I also heard, i forgot where, that if you breed a morph through like 3 generations you can call it your line.. I dont know if thats right, so dont hold me to it..
  • 06-23-2009, 03:31 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    I think that if a person can trace their founding animal back directly to the breeder that the line is named for then they sould keep the line name..

    But like me I got my Pastel Jungles from EbN who got theirs from who knows who. I can't call them Graziani Line pastels because in my mind they aren't.. My Bee however is a direct from NERD so the Pastels it produces are NERD Line pastels.
  • 06-23-2009, 03:45 PM
    josh@outbackreps
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/.../9/8/ghost.jpg
    http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...7/5/9/8/yb.jpg


    Above are pics of new lines of known morphs from africa.

    When a lot of the morphs first came in they were given different "brand names" to give credit to the breeder that first proved them out.
    After a endless number of ghost, pastels, yellow bellies, cinnamon's, etc kept being imported they stopped having the "Brand names" put on them as there too many lines and they were all proven compatible.

    Above are a few pics of some new line animals that we got from Africa this year, we got 5 yellow bellies,2 ghost, a shatter pattern along with a calico all hatched in Africa this year. A lot of new lines are imported every year, some are really common such as yb, and ghost, and some are only a few a year like albino's, lavenders, cinnamon's, etc.

    As far as f3 being a new line, they are still the same line, if you do not know the line then they are considered a generic line or a combination of different lines.

    Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
  • 06-23-2009, 05:00 PM
    Denial
    Re: How Do Breeders Have Lines?
    I always thought that to get your own line of animal you had to import an animal that was either new or not compatible with any other animal. Like with bob clarks line of retics and the amel retics. Both produce albino retics but neither are compatible with each other. Thus giving them there own line of retics.

    I have heard people claiming there snake is something more to get a sale. Or giving there morph a new name to try to spark peoples interest
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