fireball and or butterball genetic help please

I am at the moment moving out to expand my ball collection, along with a male and female spider, I will be getting another higher end snake

The Fire's
this form is basicl the HET Black Eyed leucistic meaning Co-dominant correct?

The butter's i\I am having a harder time tracking down what they are het for, I believe I saw they are HET for Blue Eyed leucistic

Any imput would be great!

Thanks

That's correct, they're both co dom so the fires super form is the black eyed lucy and the butters super form is the blue eyed lucy

so, wondering then

Famale butter to a male fire,

What sort of luci would come of this? has anyone tried?

I'm trying to figure if the genes are close enoug that you could get a blue or black or nothing.

Shawn

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Originally Posted by takagari

so, wondering then

Famale butter to a male fire,

What sort of luci would come of this? has anyone tried?

I'm trying to figure if the genes are close enoug that you could get a blue or black or nothing.

Shawn

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Normals, butters, fires, fire butters but no lucys. Fire x fire make normals, fires and super fires, also known as black eyed lucys.

butters, mojaves, lessers, phantoms make blue eye lucys. Some crosses are dirty (mojave x mojave) and some are whiter then white (lesser x lesser) at least from what I heard

The only way I know of to make a black eyed lucy is with a fire crossed with a fire.

A fire to butter would make a fire Butter, not a white snake. you would need to breed fire butter to fire butter to get a Blook eyed lucy and a little luck.

I think the fire would be a great investment. they make everything look brighter and give it that hypo twist. Butters are great to. thats quite the decision.

cheers-justin

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I think the fire would be a great investment. they make everything look brighter and give it that hypo twist. Butters are great to. thats quite the decision.

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i know, am really torn on what toi go with
the fire or the butter....

i am trying to figure out what to do,
I'm to a point where i may get a Fire and a Butter
Or maybe two butters or two spiders.

sigh. I'm not sure what to get! lol
getting two of the same SHOULD ensure i get a luci sooner or later, then again the blue eyed luci is tempting. sigh.

Help me decide guys, Should i get Butter or Fire?
Or post of pics i'm having a hard time finding pictures!

Fire.

This snake hasn't even came close to reaching its full potential! They are def one of my top fav balls, and will hopefully invest in a few sooner or later! Hopefully sooner...lol.

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Originally Posted by takagari

i know, am really torn on what toi go with
the fire or the butter....

i am trying to figure out what to do,
I'm to a point where i may get a Fire and a Butter
Or maybe two butters or two spiders.

sigh. I'm not sure what to get! lol
getting two of the same SHOULD ensure i get a luci sooner or later, then again the blue eyed luci is tempting. sigh.

Help me decide guys, Should i get Butter or Fire?
Or post of pics i'm having a hard time finding pictures!

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Neither, get a lesser!

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Which kind is that one?