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Angolans Question

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  • 07-26-2007, 08:28 PM
    N4S
    Angolans Question
    Rarely see these and when I do they are pretty up there in price.

    How come these guys are high in price?

    Just wondering because most snakes in there normal form (non-morph) are usually a decent price.

    Are they hard to get a hold of or something?

    Not too many breeders?

    I love the look of them.

    Anyone ever have one?
  • 07-26-2007, 09:55 PM
    Rapture
    Re: Angolans Question
    low supply, high demand?
  • 07-26-2007, 10:01 PM
    N4S
    Re: Angolans Question
    ^ Agreed.

    More like low supply, low demand?

    I dunno.
  • 07-26-2007, 11:29 PM
    BiG~PUN
    Re: Angolans Question
    What determines martket value is this.

    If supply is low and demand is high the price goes up.

    If supply is high and demand is low then the price goes down.

    Example; Burmese pythons have bigger clutches then ball pythons. So if you are expecting albinos from a burm you would typically get more than what a BP would produce. The demand for Albino burms is much lower than the high demand for albino ball pythons. This translates into cheap albino burms and expensive albino ball pythons.

    I dont know much about breeding albinos at all, this was only used as an example.
  • 07-27-2007, 04:46 PM
    steveo
    Re: Angolans Question
    yeah id love a pair , hopefully soon...maybe :)
    one reason is probly the state of the country atm its still littered with millions of unexploded landmines. making things differcult for WC specimens.
    There are CB ones out there but at a price , in the uk they go for around £3000 a pair , so not out of my reach but still real expensive
  • 07-27-2007, 11:09 PM
    bhmorrill
    Re: Angolans Question
    We have had two pair for about a year now. They are great snakes. Eat TONS better than the balls do, that's for sure!!! That is always a nice change. I love their beaded scales, and how much longer their bodies are compared to balls. It is cool because their heads look so similar to balls, and yet they are SO different. They do take longer to mature than balls do, and as pointed out before, there aren't really any imported from Africa. So, they are much more rare than many of the other pythons. That is why they are expensive, but the prices are slowly coming down. Anyway, here are a couple pics.


    http://www.australianaddiction.com/AN06_GFNov.jpg

    http://www.australianaddiction.com/AN06-MaleMar07.jpg
  • 07-27-2007, 11:17 PM
    dr del
    Re: Angolans Question
    Hi,


    In the second pic is that an ovulation, a rat or a normal body shape?!?!:eek:


    dr del
  • 07-28-2007, 12:10 AM
    jeffjr464
    Re: Angolans Question
    i also heard that they are hard to breed, that's why the price is what it is, please embellish :)
  • 07-29-2007, 10:07 AM
    cassandra
    Re: Angolans Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del
    Hi,


    In the second pic is that an ovulation, a rat or a normal body shape?!?!:eek:


    dr del

    That's not normal body shape for sure...I would guess dinner, but we'll have to wait.

    They are gorgeous animals. I got to hold one a while back at my reptile store. Certainly wouldn't mind adding one to my collection...=)
  • 07-29-2007, 05:43 PM
    bhmorrill
    Re: Angolans Question
    That was a food item. At that time that little one only weighed about 500-600g, so is still aways away from being ready to breed. As far as difficulty in breeding...first off, we haven't done it yet so all I can give you is what I have gotten first hand from Casey Lazik, and one other breeder that has produced them. Compared to balls I would say they are more difficult, but to anyone that is dedicated to do it, it is not that difficult. Just takes a bit more room, and better attention to temps than ball pythons, but pretty similar to centralians or blackheads. Do keep in mind though that Angolan clutches are fairly small like ball pythons, often only 4-10 eggs, so that also keeps the rare. Anyway, they are for sure cool snakes, and each year that goes by brings more breeders producing them, and lower prices, so before too long they will be affordable to the more average person. Might be awhile before you can get a female under $500, but I bet it won't be too long before you can get a male that cheap. They are for sure worth it if you can pull it off!!!
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