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30 gallon enosure

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  • 06-14-2021, 09:55 PM
    Matty88
    30 gallon enosure
    Hi everyone,

    Question concerning UTH and Ceramic Heat Bulb.

    My terra is 36x12.5x15.5 inches

    Should I have my heat mat (on thermostat) on one side and my Ceramic Heat Bulb(on dimmer)in the other or both in same side or something completely different. (I have a bunch of thermometers with probes as well that will be going in the tank obviously lol).

    Thanks in advance :)
  • 06-14-2021, 10:52 PM
    Bogertophis
    Hard to answer this without knowing the ambient temperatures in your home or room where the enclosure will be: For the most part, you want a warm side & a cool (unheated) side so a snake can choose the temperature they need. The exception would be something like a BP needing a fairly warm temperature range (78-80* cool side & 88-90* max warm side) IF by not heating one side, it will be too cold for the occupant (like if you keep the A/C to the extent that it ends up being 72* or something), then & only then you'd need some minimal heat source to keep the "cool side" at the proper range for your snake.

    Otherwise, normally, the heat goes on one end, a second source if needed might be more to the middle, leaving an unheated part (about a third of the floor) for safety & needed thermoregulation for the snake- they need to be able to choose the right temperatures as needed. Make sense? So place the heat sources where they will get you the temps your snake needs- and fully test them for at least a few days before the snake moves in- you might need to move them around again.
  • 06-14-2021, 11:20 PM
    Matty88
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    It is for a Butter Fire OD Ball Python.

    Ambient temp in the room is between 69F and 72.5F
  • 06-14-2021, 11:21 PM
    Matty88
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Hard to answer this without knowing the ambient temperatures in your home or room where the enclosure will be: For the most part, you want a warm side & a cool (unheated) side so a snake can choose the temperature they need. The exception would be something like a BP needing a fairly warm temperature range (78-80* cool side & 88-90* max warm side) IF by not heating one side, it will be too cold for the occupant (like if you keep the A/C to the extent that it ends up being 72* or something), then & only then you'd need some minimal heat source to keep the "cool side" at the proper range for your snake.

    Otherwise, normally, the heat goes on one end, a second source if needed might be more to the middle, leaving an unheated part (about a third of the floor) for safety & needed thermoregulation for the snake- they need to be able to choose the right temperatures as needed. Make sense? So place the heat sources where they will get you the temps your snake needs- and fully test them for at least a few days before the snake moves in- you might need to move them around again.

    It is for a Butter Fire OD Ball Python.

    Ambient temp in the room is between 69F and 72.5F
  • 06-14-2021, 11:29 PM
    Bogertophis
    So then obviously you're going to need some heat on both ends of this enclosure. No heat added at one end would be too chilly for a BP. Trial & error as to placement, try it & test it for a few days until you get it where it needs to be. (UTH heat tends to build up- you may not see the ultimate temperatures as quickly as would be convenient.)
  • 06-14-2021, 11:30 PM
    Matty88
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    I live in Montreal Canada so we also have very cold winters lol

    ok perfect thank you for the info.
  • 06-14-2021, 11:44 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matty88 View Post
    It is for a Butter Fire OD Ball Python.

    Ambient temp in the room is between 69F and 72.5F

    If it was for something like a corn snake, you'd only need some heat at one end, or maybe just in one corner, because they're comfortable at 70-72* ambient in their enclosure for the most part. But BPs need more warmth...
  • 06-14-2021, 11:52 PM
    Matty88
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    For sure I've done a lot of research just also a lot of mixed info out there....so here's what I was thinking of doing.

    Heat pad on cold side to heat substrate to 80F (it will be in a thermostat)

    And then

    Ceramic Heat Bulb for hot side to get the ambient air up to 88-90F (either on dimmer or pulse proportion thermostat)

    Any takes on this?
  • 06-15-2021, 12:01 AM
    Bogertophis
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matty88 View Post
    For sure I've done a lot of research just also a lot of mixed info out there....so here's what I was thinking of doing.

    Heat pad on cold side to heat substrate to 80F (it will be in a thermostat)

    And then

    Ceramic Heat Bulb for hot side to get the ambient air up to 88-90F (either on dimmer or pulse proportion thermostat)

    Any takes on this?

    I agree about the "cold side" but remember that heat rises, so using a heat bulb on the warm side might not be enough to adequately warm the floor (insulating the enclosure could help though). Also, BPs need about 55% humidity (more in shed) so keep in mind that heat bulbs tend to remove a lot of the humidity, according to those using them.
  • 06-15-2021, 12:04 AM
    Matty88
    Re: 30 gallon enosure
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I agree about the "cold side" but remember that heat rises, so using a heat bulb on the warm side might not be enough to adequately warm the floor (insulating the enclosure could help though). Also, BPs need about 55% humidity (more in shed) so keep in mind that heat bulbs tend to remove a lot of the humidity, according to those using them.

    Ok good Info.....so what would you suggest for the hot side? A second heat pad and no ceramic heat lamp?
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