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62 years old? Wow

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  • 09-11-2020, 01:40 PM
    RickyNY
    62 years old? Wow
  • 09-11-2020, 02:31 PM
    Bogertophis
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...hout-Male-Help ;)

    Nothing like a double-take. :D
  • 09-12-2020, 03:42 AM
    Zincubus
    62 years old? Wow
    ....

    Wonder why they didn’t experiment on the two ‘dead’ eggs rather than two of the healthy ones ?
  • 09-12-2020, 03:52 PM
    Reinz
    Wow, I’m more amazed at the 62 years than the eggs. :O
  • 09-13-2020, 03:46 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: 62 years old? Wow
    I’m still not convinced... unless they can prove it somehow.. blood tests ..

    I’m even wondering if it’s a publicity stunt ... just to get more public awareness of the place ??

    It’s one thing laying a batch despite not being paired up ... then to be a reported 62 years old but to be both at the same time .. I’m not even sure I’ve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years never mind 62 ...



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  • 09-13-2020, 06:51 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: 62 years old? Wow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I’m even wondering if it’s a publicity stunt ... just to get more public awareness of the place ??

    I totally agree: this sounds sketchy on several levels...
  • 09-13-2020, 07:03 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: 62 years old? Wow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I totally agree: this sounds sketchy on several levels...

    Can they prove the age by blood tests ??


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  • 09-13-2020, 08:30 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: 62 years old? Wow
    The Barkers mention record longevities in their most recent book and reference several ball pythons in their 50s as at least one over 60yrs which leads me to believe it’s this animal.

    As for not being reproductive beyond 15yrs, that’s simply not true. I have a friend back home with an animal over 30yrs that still produces regularly, the founder animals to my line of Brisbane carpets produced in their late 20s/early 30s, relatives of my Argentine boa have produced into their 20s...

    I think the issue is that few people keep snakes alive past 15yrs and has little to do with the fecundity of the snakes themselves.


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  • 09-13-2020, 09:26 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: 62 years old? Wow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post

    As for not being reproductive beyond 15yrs, that’s simply not true.

    I think the issue is that few people keep snakes alive past 15yrs and has little to do with the fecundity of the snakes themselves.


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    I never stated it as a fact .. I simply said

    “I’m not even sure I’ve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years .. “

    Which is true ...



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  • 09-13-2020, 09:45 AM
    jmcrook
    62 years old? Wow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I never stated it as a fact .. I simply said

    “I’m not even sure I’ve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years .. “

    Which is true ...



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    My bad, didn’t mean to come across as abrasive. I tried to edit my post but missed the 10min window.

    I agree reproduction at 62 is absolutely bonkers. As for not many reproducing beyond 15yrs, I think a lot of that has to do with the morph driven trends in breeding.

    A 15+yr old morph is just not up to speed with most people’s projects or breeding goals anymore. Locality/species projects are different though. They can continue to be selectively bred for traits within the locality/species but ultimately they are what they are and are free from the morph craze to an extent.

    Recently saw a litter of Dumerils Boas produced from 34yr old parent animals. Bob Guerriere has Argentines producing into their 20s. Paul Harris saved Brisbane Coastal carpets from becoming non existent in the hobby by breeding his pair at 25-30yrs old.

    The big reason I think is that a 10-15yr old royal python generally has lost market relevance at that age and as such aren’t bred often.

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