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  • 05-27-2014, 07:59 PM
    Qoph
    Chameleon morph
    I recently turned this up in a search, and apparently it's a "chameleon" morph. I only see it on that one site, though. At least appearing like this one. Are there other names for it, or is it new? I love it, either way. Can anyone decipher what goes into making it, in lieu of an alternate name?

    http://animaniacs.co.za/userfiles/im...Chameleon1.jpg
  • 05-27-2014, 08:06 PM
    Marrissa
    Re: Chameleon morph
    Paradox?
  • 05-27-2014, 08:15 PM
    bearded_guy
    Whatever it is, it's pretty awesome!
  • 05-27-2014, 08:20 PM
    Pythonfriend
    looks like an extreme paradox to me.

    these tend to happen randomly, by accident, and people typically fail to reproduce it. so in most cases its not genetic and just happens randomly for reasons that are not understood.

    there is one recessive morph that causes it, its called "atomic", Mike Wilbanks has it and works with it. but that morph is still very rare and incredibly expensive, and also looks a bit different.

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...mic-queen-bee/

    for it to be a morph, it needs to genetically prove out, so that it can be reproduced, and so far that only happened with "atomic".
  • 05-27-2014, 09:08 PM
    Qoph
    One of my new favourites for sure, but you say it's completely random. I imagine it must be expensive then. More than a piebald? Because that's another favourite of mine (with, I believe, similar traits), and they're even out of my price range at $700 on the low end (you see any cheaper, let me know).
  • 05-27-2014, 09:30 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Chameleon morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Qoph View Post
    One of my new favourites for sure, but you say it's completely random. I imagine it must be expensive then. More than a piebald? Because that's another favourite of mine (with, I believe, similar traits), and they're even out of my price range at $700 on the low end (you see any cheaper, let me know).

    generally its random.

    the atomic-gene is the exception, its a proven recessive, you can produce them just like you would produce albinos.

    i dont know a price, i dont know if Mike Wilbanks sold any so far. my guess would be in the neighborhood of maybe 50000 dollars, maybe more for a visual male, maybe less for hets. its a brand new morph that produces completely new and stunning optics, and the first sales of such a morph are generally in the price range of a luxury car. it will be many, many years before the price comes down to a level so that hobbyists can afford it.

    you might get lucky and find one of the not genetic ones that randomly hatch, like a paradox albino or paradox ivory. these are not expensive, because you cannot reproduce them, but they are rare.
  • 05-28-2014, 12:04 AM
    Qoph
    Yes, out of the examples I've seen, I somewhat prefer the ones seemingly random rather than the atomic line, but that's a general statement across the 50 or so snakes I've seen in searches. It just seems as though the random occurences give a more splotchy appearance, which I like. Unless of course some of the search results were mislabelled, which is all too possible. I've added "autumn gloss" to my favourites now too, though. Anyway, it seems mystery solved, so thanks for the help!
  • 06-03-2014, 05:59 PM
    Tat2Guy
    Re: Chameleon morph
    I think they would cost a lot more. These are prettier than the sunsets and those bhb is selling two hets for 35k

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  • 06-04-2014, 10:45 AM
    Qoph
    Re: Chameleon morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tat2Guy View Post
    I think they would cost a lot more. These are prettier than the sunsets and those bhb is selling two hets for 35k

    You mean autumn gloss? Because (according to world of ball pythons) it's an older morph than sunset, and of course attraction is subjective.
  • 06-04-2014, 10:51 AM
    Rickys_Reptiles
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