Scaleless bp

Seeing how bhb produced the scaleless. What impact do you guys think this will have?


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I think they won't last.


Scales are to reptiles what epithelium is to humans; without it they will be much more vulnerable to diseases and to parasites. I honestly hope that they don't last; this is something I think shouldn't progress further.

I think the project is cool and all, but I didn't get as excited about it as a lot of other people.

For one simple reason: I LIKE scales on my reptiles. I think it's the coolest thing about them. It's part of what makes them a reptile.

I am holding my judgement on this project for now. I think time and more information is needed to determine what type of impact this will have. Acouple of pics of the snake in the egg is not enough to base a strong opinion. Just my thoughts.

If health is not an issue and those are hardy and problem free, think of the possibilities, every mutation you know available in the scaleless version :O :gj:.

I think scaleless ratsnake are pretty cool, I am just not much into rat snake, but BP why not, time will tell.

Despite me frequently defending this project over the last week, I...actually am not the biggest fan of scaleless snakes, purely for aesthetic reasons. I do think these will look badass with any of the big pattern-changing morphs like Pied, Clown, etc. I think it'll be kind of a niche market, but definitely huge.

I think that there will be some really neat stuff produced through them. Of course it will be a good 2 years at least before we start seeing ANYTHING made. I do hope the babies survive and are thriving as they are still living creatures. I can only imagine a cinnamon skinner or a spider skinner or even a banana peel ball python!

I just couldn't justify doing it myself. I'll keep track of where the project goes though.

Not worth it to me. Kinda cool, but it does open a lot of doors, not all of them good. I, like other people, hypothesize about potential health issues. That's a full layer of highly defensive skin gone. As far as we know, the scaleless heads haven't had too many issues, and obviously lived long enough to breed, but these supers have a heck of a lot more body exposed. BHB is a huge facility with a lot of quarantine capability, but if any of these get into the hands of casual hobbyists (obviously not for awhile, but this is forward thinking here), it could be disaster for a collection, depending on if it has any number of unknown pathogens hitching a ride.

I dunno. Mixed feelings. It's these types of mutations that make me start thinking bioethics.

EDIT: and that's absolutely not knocking Brian's work on this project, anyone who watches that Snakebytes video can see that this is way more than a science experiment for him, this was done out of pure passion and curiosity of the species. And really crazy-interesting to boot. I just have personal feelings about the possibility of this morph going viral in the hobby.

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Xaila- have you ever seen a Corn without scales? Even a wild type looks awesome because the color and pattern isnt covered by scales...so yes...BPs should be very cool looking.

Ethics? Brian is the guy you want on this project cause he cares about this stuff.
People still bred ratsnakes, corns and leatherback beardies.
What about hairless rats, proven they live less and have health issues but yet they are still going strong.

Do we know it doesnt have heat pits? Or that its fragile or any other atuff that its like the Derma? Looks at other scaleless animals and see how they are doing.

People used to go on about Albinos too.