Pastel

Need opinion guys....just bought my 2nd BP yesterday a male pastel baby :)...well i'm very new in BP's but I think it has a kinda different looking pattern from pastels i've seen before CMIIW.What do you guys think?
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he's okay :). he'll probably brown out a lot and he has a fairly dirty pattern, but he's a pet I'm assuming.

congrats on the pick up!:gj:

Sorry, but quality wise not good at all, imo. Very brown, and very dirty. As long as you like him though, that's all that matters. :)

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Congrats on the new snake.

I have to be honest that it's not the best looking pastel. He looks almost normal or yellowbelly. Pastels are suppose to be bright yellow. That snake is orange, which indicate it's going to brown out even more as an adult.
Definitely pet-only quality.

I like him! Especially the speckling.

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Originally Posted by cecilbturtle

I like him! Especially the speckling.

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X2, I like his little granite-like speckles/freckles (not saying he's a granite!)

Great pet, but it wouldnt be a good idea to breed him. Most likely he will have coloring similar to a normal when he grows up.

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Originally Posted by aalomon

Great pet, but it wouldnt be a good idea to breed him. Most likely he will have coloring similar to a normal when he grows up.

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All his orange will brown out as he gets bogger

I've seen some very bright pastels throw some hatchlings that wasn't that bright. I also seen dirty looking pastels have some very nice looking hatchlings. you got the snake cause you liked it. best reason in picking a new snake. if you want to breed it, i say go for it. good luck with your new pickup, don

While this baby is deep orange colored and not the highly desired bright yellow that some pastel's carry, he has incredible blushing and flames. He's an extremely attractive snake in his own right, just not what most people look for in a pastel.

That being said, I think he has potential. I've seen a handful of pastels similar to him who really were stunning as they matured. Unfortunately, I've also seen a number of pastels like him who were ugly as sin when they matured.

Bottom line is of course whether YOU like him or not. If he makes you happy, then who gives a care what anyone else thinks?

Now, if you think maybe someday you'd like to get some babies from him, in my strong opinion you need a really stellar female for him. For example, let's say you decide you want to make Bumblebees. They are a highly popular morph and not hard to make. So when you shop for a female spider, she should be as clean and bright a gold as you can find, and have a lot of white up her sides, the more the better. Then, if your boy does mature like I suspect he might, the babies you get from such a pairing may just surprise you.

Now, if you wanted to make say, super pastels with him, I'd think twice about that. He is just not likely to produce the high yellow pastel offspring most people want even if you got a killer pastel female for him.

If I found myself in possession of this particular male for one reason or another, and breeding was in my plans for him. I would focus on genes that would negate his "flaws" as it were. For example, a super bright fire female bred to him might produce acceptable fireflys. Or a fantastically blushed mojave might make some decent Pastaves when bred to him. I would stay away from darker morphs, unless that were your ultimate goal. No Black Pastels, Cinnamons, Yellowbellys, Enchis, or the like. Unless you were aiming to produce really dark morphs, which some people seem to really like. I saw a dark orange and deep black Black Pastel and people were really impressed by it, so that just shows no two people seek the same thing in a morph all the time.

Gale