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Possible super pinstripes

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  • 09-08-2012, 02:56 AM
    Rat160
    Possible super pinstripes
    So my buddy Tom at northwestreptiles.com bred a pinstripe to a pinstripe and produced some possible super pins. He is going to be keeping them all to prove them out.

    I saw a male he produced today and thought it was so cool I asked him if I could post pic of it on here.

    It to me is the perfect pinstripe. Full dorsal stripe, and I mean full, not one break. Very busy pattern, well here are some pic I took with my phone.

    Let me know what you think.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/ahavyveq.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/8a9yna2y.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/5uhu6a7y.jpg


    Please excuse any errors sent from my crap phone.
  • 09-08-2012, 03:13 AM
    angeluscorpion
    That's a great looking pin. But there is only one way to know if he is a super or not. Gonna have to wait until he's old enough to breed.
  • 09-08-2012, 03:16 AM
    Rat160
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angeluscorpion View Post
    That's a great looking pin. But there is only one way to know if he is a super or not. Gonna have to wait until he's old enough to breed.

    Yep that's why he Is keeping all of them to prove them out.


    Please excuse any errors sent from my crap phone.
  • 09-08-2012, 03:50 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: Possible super pinstripes
    I have a pin that has a perfect stripe as well. Pin is dominant there is no super unless someone has proven this out which I have seen no evidence of. Its the spider story all over again. It would be nice but I doubt it. Looks like most other pins as far as I'm concerned.
  • 09-08-2012, 05:10 AM
    m00kfu
    BHB would be the guy to talk to. I know a couple years ago he thought he had a super pin, produced nothing but pins with it for the whole season at the time, but I don't know what ever happened as far as if it continued to do that or ended up throwing some normals down the road.
  • 09-08-2012, 05:37 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Possible super pinstripes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Domepiece View Post
    I have a pin that has a perfect stripe as well. Pin is dominant there is no super unless someone has proven this out which I have seen no evidence of. Its the spider story all over again. It would be nice but I doubt it. Looks like most other pins as far as I'm concerned.

    actually to be dominant it HAS to have a homozygous (super) form that looks exactly like the heterozygous (het). Other wise it's still not proven what it actually is, like most of what we call dominant.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m00kfu View Post
    BHB would be the guy to talk to. I know a couple years ago he thought he had a super pin, produced nothing but pins with it for the whole season at the time, but I don't know what ever happened as far as if it continued to do that or ended up throwing some normals down the road.

    27 eggs, all pinstripe, never one normal. chances of a heterozygous animal doing that are over 1 in 100 million. I never asked him what he did with the male. I know he has some possible super pin females he showed me, obviously they are going to take quite a bit longer to prove out.
  • 09-08-2012, 07:26 AM
    angeluscorpion
    Re: Possible super pinstripes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m00kfu View Post
    BHB would be the guy to talk to. I know a couple years ago he thought he had a super pin, produced nothing but pins with it for the whole season at the time, but I don't know what ever happened as far as if it continued to do that or ended up throwing some normals down the road.

    Took the words right out of my mouth
  • 09-08-2012, 09:06 AM
    mykee
    Half of the pinstripes and pinstripe crosses I produce have full dorsal stripes. Sorry to rain on your parade. Also, pinstripes have been around for over a decade now; if there was a super form, there would be literally tens of thousands of them around.
  • 09-08-2012, 10:08 AM
    Rat160
    Re: Possible super pinstripes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Domepiece View Post
    I have a pin that has a perfect stripe as well. Pin is dominant there is no super unless someone has proven this out which I have seen no evidence of. Its the spider story all over again. It would be nice but I doubt it. Looks like most other pins as far as I'm concerned.

    I rarely see pinstripes with a perfect stripe like this. Again its just my opinion that this is the perfect pinstripe for me. And there is evidence of super pins as well as other dominate traits. Looks like a pin but throws all pins no normals. Again only time and breeding will tell which is what he plans to do.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    actually to be dominant it HAS to have a homozygous (super) form that looks exactly like the heterozygous (het). Other wise it's still not proven what it actually is, like most of what we call dominant.

    This ^


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mykee View Post
    Half of the pinstripes and pinstripe crosses I produce have full dorsal stripes. Sorry to rain on your parade. Also, pinstripes have been around for over a decade now; if there was a super form, there would be literally tens of thousands of them around.

    There may be but no one takes the time to prove them out.

    All I know is I think its a great looking pin and im excited to see it prove out to be a super.
  • 09-08-2012, 11:51 AM
    mykee
    Quote:

    "There may be but no one takes the time to prove them out. "
    Really? You don't think that with the tens of thousands of pins produced, that NO ONE bred sibling back to sibling to try to prove out a super?
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