Would you buy these girls??

Hello all,

New to the hobby and obviously the forum. I have just started out with a fair collection of balls to hopefully be able to breed next season.

My hopeful breeding stock is:

1.0 Lesser Platinum @ 280g
0.1 Pinstripe @ 490g
0.1 Spider @ 425g

I have additionally run across another Pin and Spider female set that are hovering at 225g right now. The PAIR is $400 and he's firm. I would only be interested if I could get them up to weight by next fall to breed. I know the price is fair, but I'm only interested if I could get them up to weight for next season.

Would they get to weight in ~16 months??

I also have my 0.1 Butter which is a fat little hatchling at 130g at 2 months old for the 2104 fall, and a 1.0 normal that is eating like a hog, but not gaining any weight?? He's also about 2 months old and only 70g.

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

Hello all,

New to the hobby and obviously the forum. I have just started out with a fair collection of balls to hopefully be able to breed next season.

My hopeful breeding stock is:

1.0 Lesser Platinum @ 280g
0.1 Pinstripe @ 490g
0.1 Spider @ 425g

I have additionally run across another Pin and Spider female set that are hovering at 225g right now. The PAIR is $400 and he's firm. I would only be interested if I could get them up to weight by next fall to breed. I know the price is fair, but I'm only interested if I could get them up to weight for next season.

Would they get to weight in ~16 months??

I also have my 0.1 Butter which is a fat little hatchling at 130g at 2 months old for the 2104 fall, and a 1.0 normal that is eating like a hog, but not gaining any weight?? He's also about 2 months old and only 70g.

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At those weights they are most likely 2012 hatchlings. I doubt they would be up to breeding weight by this season. Especially the females. Males, yes it could be done. I would wait until next season at the earliest to breed any 2012 female and then only if she was 1500 grams. Even that is a stretch. Your best bet would be to get the pair, then look for a breedable normal female if you want to breed this upcomming season. You could probably find a nice sized normal girl for around $100.

I'm pretty confident my 0.1 Pin at 490g and my 0.1 Spider at 425g will make it by fall of 2013 with my 1.0 Lesser at 280g... yes?? I will have ~16 months to get them to weight. That should be enough time- yes??

A normal female of breeding weight in these parts (FL) is about $125. I was thinking of picking up the pair of ~225g females for $400 and trading them both up for another Pin in the 500g range that would make it by fall 2013?? The only thing I'm leary about at this point is that I have only seen detailed pics of the females in question. My Spider has zero head wobble and I don't know about this other one. Some say thats a deal breaker with Spiders??

Yes they will have enough time if they are solid eaters. I would buy them if they looked like excellent examples of the morph. If they aren't what I consider to be a GREAT looking spider or pinstripe, I'll pass. I'd rather save the money to buy a SWEET spider.

I don't think the head wobble is a deal breaker with spiders.. That's my personal opinion though. It's up to you. My spiders are doing great.

Just because your spider has zero head wobble doesn't mean the babies won't have any head wobble.

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

I'm pretty confident my 0.1 Pin at 490g and my 0.1 Spider at 425g will make it by fall of 2013 with my 1.0 Lesser at 280g... yes?? I will have ~16 months to get them to weight. That should be enough time- yes??

A normal female of breeding weight in these parts (FL) is about $125. I was thinking of picking up the pair of ~225g females for $400 and trading them both up for another Pin in the 500g range that would make it by fall 2013?? The only thing I'm leary about at this point is that I have only seen detailed pics of the females in question. My Spider has zero head wobble and I don't know about this other one. Some say thats a deal breaker with Spiders??

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Wobble isn't really a deal breaker, it depends on severity. 16 months to get them up to size is doable. Figure 80-100 gram increase a month if they eat well and don't go off food. That size I would be feeding every 5 days or so. Once they get to breeding weight its more like once a week. If they don't quite get to size by the time you want to breed them, at least you have quadrupled your investment by then. Or you start their season a few months later. They will breed readily year round, you don't have to start in fall...

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I personnaly like the Spiders a tad more than Pin's, but Kingpin's bring a bit more around here that Lesserbee's (with the 1.0 Lesser). Pin's are only ~$25 more at 500grams than a Spider of similiar weight, but the Kingpin's bring $100 more a head here as hatchlings than Lesserbee's.

My real project is the 1.0 Lesser and the 0.1 Butter in 2014. I don't have real good pics of any of them yet, but they are all ashtonishing. My dealer basically hand picks them for me cause he knows what I'm looking for. I picked the cleanest Pin I have ever seen and my Spider has so much light blushing she is a doll. There was one larger Spider, but the blushing on mine was the kicker.

I'll try to post some pics later.

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

I'm pretty confident my 0.1 Pin at 490g and my 0.1 Spider at 425g will make it by fall of 2013 with my 1.0 Lesser at 280g... yes?? I will have ~16 months to get them to weight. That should be enough time- yes??

A normal female of breeding weight in these parts (FL) is about $125. I was thinking of picking up the pair of ~225g females for $400 and trading them both up for another Pin in the 500g range that would make it by fall 2013?? The only thing I'm leary about at this point is that I have only seen detailed pics of the females in question. My Spider has zero head wobble and I don't know about this other one. Some say thats a deal breaker with Spiders??

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Yes, Unless the females hit the 1000 gram wall, I do not see any issue with them being able to breed in 2013.

There are so many other factors that you have to consider besides just getting them up to weight to breed. If the pair are both nice examples of the morph id say go for it though.

Dude, you seem like you're way too impatient. I've bred 18 month old girls before, but they've been over 2000 g when they began breeding. Don't be in such a rush and don't be so concerned with what brings more cash where. If you like the snakes, get them if not don't, when you're dealing with animals it's nearly impossible to know when they'll be ready to breed, as they generally do it when they're good and ready to do so. Slow down, take some time to enjoy your animals and they will do their thing when they feel like it.

Patience is such a big part of this, but you'll learn that

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Originally Posted by dreese88

Don't be in such a rush and don't be so concerned with what brings more cash where. If you like the snakes, get them if not don't, when you're dealing with animals it's nearly impossible to know when they'll be ready to breed, as they generally do it when they're good and ready to do so. Slow down, take some time to enjoy your animals and they will do their thing when they feel like it.

Patience is such a big part of this, but you'll learn that

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