Genetics Masters Help....

Hey everyone im kinda stumped and I need a bit of help. I know a far bit about genetics and designer morphs combos but im stumped on this. Can a snake be a double super? ex. pastaves hook up, is it possible for an offspring to be a super pastel BEL? Im trying to figure out and make a list how many possible combinations i can make from my 4 morphs and this combo if possible has em stumped.

2nd question. Would all BEL combos just be white or would a BEL bumble bee or lemon blast BEL look different naturally? or just under black lights it would be visable?

Yes it is possible.

A BEL combo most likely will be all white, but a pattern could be seen under a black light or maybe even visibly. :)

sweet deal thanks now i can fill in that spot. But then this brings up even more in my mind. BEL spinner blast? lol 6 gene animal.. possible? and i wonder what it would look like.. Im going to have to do alot more searching about for pics of BEL combos.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

lol SHROP that is just one of the site and calculators that i use. its just i seen no picture of it and alot of the results from the site dont show BEL or it gives multiple repeat answers. So far its said 256 possiblities but its actually more like 36. ( Male - pastel x pin x spider x mojo, Female same genes added into calculator and that was the results.)

When combining mutations you need to consider which are different mutations of the same gene (alleles) and which are different mutations of different genes. The "super pewter" is homozygous for both pastel and cinnamon which is possible because the pastel and cinnamon mutations are on separate genes. However, the rules are different when working with alleles. Because lesser/butter, mojave, phantom/mystic, Vin Russo, special, hidden, and the normal version of the same gene are an allele group no one ball python can have more than two copies of the group. So you will not be able to make a lesser mojave mystic special for example.

Most BEL combos will be white snakes with patterns only to be seen under black light. Genetic powerhouses, but unalike in pattern.

Super Pewter is a double Super.. :) YAY FOR SUPER SUPERS!

(Random, I know..)

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Originally Posted by Akren_905

lol SHROP that is just one of the site and calculators that i use. its just i seen no picture of it and alot of the results from the site dont show BEL or it gives multiple repeat answers. So far its said 256 possiblities but its actually more like 36. ( Male - pastel x pin x spider x mojo, Female same genes added into calculator and that was the results.)

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81 different results actually

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

81 different results actually

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How do u get 81? i doube checked n i got 28 combos, 4 base n 1 normal..... but this is why i asked lol.

I know a fair bit more then the basics of ball python genetics i was just wondering how far i could get my collection with what i just have. also i know that the bels pattern shows up under black light hense why i said it and i know it will cancel out patterns of the morph mixed with it. i only asked if the bel was only 1/2 or a 1/3rd of the genetics if it would do anything to make it slightly more visible. This thread is kinda wondering off from what i asked.

The double super has been answered and i know about the allele groups i have put alot of the base morphs in there respective allele groups on my giant wall poster / square (only double combos). Took me soo long to figure them out ahahah wish i asked about this like 8 months ago you deffinatly would helped Randy.