red axanthic vs axanthic.

whats the difference?

i have seen lots of pics of both and a few of both in person,

red's seem to have busy patterns and sometimes intense blushings, while axanthics have more normal (or what ever the combo's patterns are) patterns.

is there a difference in how one holds color?
is there actual red?
im still learning about axanthics and actually want a red. but dont know what to look for. any input would be helpful.

First, Two different morphs.

Red Axanthics are actually co-dom. Het Red Axanthic is a visual morph, and the red Axanthic is the super form.

Axanthics are recessive. Het is a normal with the gene, but otherwise normal. Axanthic itself is the visual, which is normal pattern, with no color.

Difference? Besides they're completely different things, Het reds and Red axanthics are busy patterned and have an overall reddish hue (even more on the super) and are sometimes black-backed.
Axanthics lack all color pigments (thought they brown as they get older) and if you like black and white and recessive morphs (axanthic spider is win) then it's the way to go.

They're hard to compare though, because again, one is recessive and one is co-dominant.

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Originally Posted by A.VinczeBPs

First, Two different morphs.

Red Axanthics are actually co-dom. Het Red Axanthic is a visual morph, and the red Axanthic is the super form.

Axanthics are recessive. Het is a normal with the gene, but otherwise normal. Axanthic itself is the visual, which is normal pattern, with no color.

Difference? Besides they're completely different things, Het reds and Red axanthics are busy patterned and have an overall reddish hue (even more on the super) and are sometimes black-backed.
Axanthics lack all color pigments (thought they brown as they get older) and if you like black and white and recessive morphs (axanthic spider is win) then it's the way to go.

They're hard to compare though, because again, one is recessive and one is co-dominant.

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red's a co-dom? REALLY! well im sold on just that?
and i like busy patterns. but wow, so when people say het.red? its a combo morph like a pastel het. red? its visual? i just now noticed that in a pastel het red pic i have! wow!

not as a say pastel het. axanthic is a non visual but carries...
are there different lines of red's? like there are different lines of say
axanthics, pastels, marlboros? :P

thanks also for helping me out here! a.v. dude you rock!

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Originally Posted by A.VinczeBPs

First, Two different morphs.

Red Axanthics are actually co-dom. Het Red Axanthic is a visual morph, and the red Axanthic is the super form.

Axanthics are recessive. Het is a normal with the gene, but otherwise normal. Axanthic itself is the visual, which is normal pattern, with no color.

Difference? Besides they're completely different things, Het reds and Red axanthics are busy patterned and have an overall reddish hue (even more on the super) and are sometimes black-backed.
Axanthics lack all color pigments (thought they brown as they get older) and if you like black and white and recessive morphs (axanthic spider is win) then it's the way to go.

They're hard to compare though, because again, one is recessive and one is co-dominant.

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x2 Pretty much....
Het Red and Reds starting getting more and more popular because of way how they influence other morphs. take for example Gargoyle with is het red x black pastel or cinnamon and us just awesome... same her red x pastel or her red x Yb... with regular Axanthics when You combine them to another morphs you basically get gray scale version of that morph.. Red influence pattern and color change in great way

Yes, they're codom. If there is a pastel het. red it is visual for both pastel and het. Red. Confusing name, you can blame Corey Woods for that confusion, but that's how it is. ;)

There is only one line, but different sellers I believe. Maybe someone has another from the wild, but if so they're not sharing this news.

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

x2 Pretty much....
Het Red and Reds starting getting more and more popular because of way how they influence other morphs. take for example Gargoyle with is het red x black pastel or cinnamon and us just awesome... same her red x pastel or her red x Yb... with regular Axanthics when You combine them to another morphs you basically get gray scale version of that morph.. Red influence pattern and color change in great way

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i aggree! i started getting into the red's because i saw one, which now i know was a super, for 600 and wanted to shoot myself for not buying it asap!

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Originally Posted by A.VinczeBPs

Yes, they're codom. If there is a pastel het. red it is visual for both pastel and het. Red. Confusing name, you can blame Corey Woods for that confusion, but that's how it is. ;)

There is only one line, but different sellers I believe. Maybe someone has another from the wild, but if so they're not sharing this news.

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awesome! yeah thats why i thought it was a recessive, because everyone says het. red. but i had seen alot of pics of the so called "het. red" and they all had odd-er than normal patterns and threw me off. i had thought it was like a marker and thats how they knew they were het.

Here You have pictures showing You a difference...

Axhantic VPI
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...e/P7119M-2.jpg

Her Red
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...anthic/002.jpg

Adult red next to young het red
http://www.nextworldexotics.com/images/hghetred.jpg
Source World of Ball Pythons morph list and Google.....

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

Here You have pictures showing You a difference...

Axhantic VPI
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...e/P7119M-2.jpg

Her Red
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...anthic/002.jpg

Adult red next to young het red
http://www.nextworldexotics.com/images/hghetred.jpg
Source World of Ball Pythons morph list and Google.....

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yeah i deffinately love the reds! more so than axanthics.

thanks guys! any pics of combo reds?