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  • 09-24-2010, 09:45 PM
    Bellabob
    Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    Personally, I've never been a big fan. I live by the rule "if it doesn't exist in nature, it shouldn't exist at all". But don't get me wrong, there are some crazy beauitful morphs out there. Its mainly all the inbreeding that gets me. Like a son bred to the mother, sister to brother, daughter to father. Its kind of...ehh..I don't know, it kinda just makes me cringe. I also feel bad for some of the morphs that come out deformed, some have no eyes, some have extremeley kinked backs, etc. It just kinda makes me sad.
  • 09-24-2010, 10:07 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    Quote:

    Personally, I've never been a big fan. I live by the rule "if it doesn't exist in nature, it shouldn't exist at all"
    Where do you think base morph came from? :confused:

    Base morphs originated in the wild, than proved out in captivity :confuzd:
  • 09-24-2010, 10:33 PM
    Alexandra V
    Re: Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    Not to mention that it's possible for the morphs to exist in the wild, they just don't live long. Yes, the odds of, say, two cinnamons meeting up in the wild and creating offspring are very poor, but it's possible, and then there would be maybe a super cinny or two out there.
  • 09-24-2010, 10:35 PM
    Bellabob
    The first morph came out of an albino. The albino Ball Python is the one that made the whole industry big. The albino isn't even a morph, its just a mistake in the gentic code, AKA a mutation. People have albinosm sometimes. Though its rare.
  • 09-24-2010, 10:46 PM
    redstormlax12
    Re: Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    Lets not forget the inbreeding in the wild. You dont think ball pythons, or any other species inbreed in their natural habitats? Ball pythons dont travel huge distances in their life times. Many probably stay within a short radius of where they were born. This means that they end up breeding with their sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers, etc.. Inbreeding is actually the root of many species. Their are some theories that we originated from an isolated population of primates that were forced to inbreed due to this isolation and overtime out came us.

    Not only is inbreeding present in nature, but it can also cause mutations in the genome that code for improved aspects in a species that causes it to become more successful.
  • 09-24-2010, 11:14 PM
    SK_Exotics
    Re: Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bellabob View Post
    The first morph came out of an albino. The albino Ball Python is the one that made the whole industry big. The albino isn't even a morph, its just a mistake in the gentic code, AKA a mutation. People have albinosm sometimes. Though its rare.

    LOL wut?
  • 09-24-2010, 11:20 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    All morphs ARE mutations.
  • 09-24-2010, 11:25 PM
    anthonym
    Re: Whats your opinion on BP morphs and other snake and reptile morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bellabob View Post
    The first morph came out of an albino. The albino Ball Python is the one that made the whole industry big. The albino isn't even a morph, its just a mistake in the gentic code, AKA a mutation. People have albinosm sometimes. Though its rare.

    You know that all morphs are genetic mutations, right?
  • 09-24-2010, 11:32 PM
    Bellabob
    Yes, I know that all morphs are mutations. But, You never see any of those mutations (besides pastels, and albinos, and maybe a couple others) happening in the wild.
  • 09-24-2010, 11:40 PM
    PythonChick
    This point has already been made, but you do in fact see ALL the base morphs in the wild. That is where they come from. Albinos, pastels, spiders, cinnamons, mojaves, lessers, butters, axanthics, caramel albinos, enchi, etc., etc. If a genetic mutation happens in captivity, it CAN happen int he wild. Of course you aren't likely to see the combination morphs in the wild, but that is just an odds game.

    On a related note, do you feel the same way about other animals? Say, for example, dog breeds? You certainly don't see Chihuahuas or Bulldogs 'in the wild.' What about production animals (pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, etc.)? Just some food for thought.
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