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  • 06-13-2010, 01:07 PM
    MikeV
    Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Hey guys. As some of you may know I am getting a 3 week old ball python around the 22nd - 25th

    I went to a different store than the one i am buying the BP from by the way, keep that in mind (can picture people saying "if they said that, dont uby the snake from them" lol)

    So I asked the guy, I said im about to get a BP, will you guys have the size of mice ill need around the time I get it (just wanted to know so I wont have to go around looking for a store that sells feeders)

    and he says, yeah we have them but wont have any F/T

    so I was like.. "k.. thats fine"

    he then went on to tell me, that if I do decide to uby the live to prekill them, I told him that was the plan, and he proceeded to say:

    "Yeah, its very easy, just lay them on a table. Get a screw driver and put it on this neckbone. Then push down really hard, this will snap the spine and cause the mouse to die instantly"


    (ALSO keep in mind he was saying that for future reference, prekilling wont be needed when feeding pinkies/hoppers.)

    Is that really humane? I was kinda like "wtf" when I heard it.. but I dunno its coming from a reputible store so I dont know what to make of it

    but ive never heard of that method.. ive heard of CO2, hitting the head against a wall, ect ect, cervial dislocation (but not like that) where you hold the head down and pull the tail

    Can anybody offer some insight? I dunno if I should listen to a word this guy says....
  • 06-13-2010, 01:09 PM
    RR - Mackenzie
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    NO!!!

    You do NOT crush the back of the neck! You put a long screw-driver, ruler, pencil, anything sturdy and strong, and you pull the tail UP. Crushing the neck will be a very painful death :(

    The most humane way is CO2, though. It knocks them out instantly, no tail yanking, neck crushing... You can get cans of it at WalMart, or Krogers. In my opinion, I think that is the safest way to pre-kill.
  • 06-13-2010, 01:15 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sadistic Serpent View Post
    NO!!!

    You do NOT crush the back of the neck! You put a long screw-driver, ruler, pencil, anything sturdy and strong, and you pull the tail UP. Crushing the neck will be a very painful death :(

    The most humane way is CO2, though. It knocks them out instantly, no tail yanking, neck crushing... You can get cans of it at WalMart, or Krogers. In my opinion, I think that is the safest way to pre-kill.

    Ah kk

    yeah that guy was messed up then

    He was saying about "oh its more humane then co2" and i wasnt really sure

    but now I am, and he is an idiot. Im just not gonna buy feeders from them, ill probably end up going somewhere that im certain is good

    Thanks!
  • 06-13-2010, 01:17 PM
    RR - Mackenzie
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeV View Post
    Ah kk

    yeah that guy was messed up then

    He was saying about "oh its more humane then co2" and i wasnt really sure

    but now I am, and he is an idiot. Im just not gonna buy feeders from them, ill probably end up going somewhere that im certain is good

    Thanks!

    Just imagine this, someone crushing your neck with a pole until you die. Doesn't sound very pleasant, huh? And, most people will agree, nothing is more humane than CO2.
  • 06-13-2010, 01:22 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sadistic Serpent View Post
    Just imagine this, someone crushing your neck with a pole until you die. Doesn't sound very pleasant, huh? And, most people will agree, nothing is more humane than CO2.

    Yeah when you put it that way it is 100% clear, I thought it was suspect to begin with but now i know 100% its not the way to go, I feel bad that I almost listened to him :(
  • 06-13-2010, 01:33 PM
    RR - Mackenzie
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeV View Post
    Yeah when you put it that way it is 100% clear, I thought it was suspect to begin with but now i know 100% its not the way to go, I feel bad that I almost listened to him :(

    Don't feel bad! :hug: :aww: At least you knew that it wasn't right, and at least you asked! It would have been worse if in a couple months, you get a live mouse, and you crush its neck :weirdface
  • 06-13-2010, 01:36 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sadistic Serpent View Post
    Don't feel bad! :hug: :aww: At least you knew that it wasn't right, and at least you asked! It would have been worse if in a couple months, you get a live mouse, and you crush its neck :weirdface

    Thats very true! :D

    I would MUCH rather invest a few dollars to a Co2 chamber, even if im only using it for one mouse a week then doing something cruel and inhumane

    I love all animals! so that would be very upsetting to me to find out i was doing something inhumane, which is why I wanted to ask first which I guess is the best thing to do as you said :)
  • 06-13-2010, 01:41 PM
    RR - Mackenzie
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeV View Post
    Thats very true! :D

    I would MUCH rather invest a few dollars to a Co2 chamber, even if im only using it for one mouse a week then doing something cruel and inhumane

    I love all animals! so that would be very upsetting to me to find out i was doing something inhumane, which is why I wanted to ask first which I guess is the best thing to do as you said :)

    Good job! And good luck with your ball ypthon!

    Feel free to ask any questions you have here, I or someone esle will be happy to answer them. A smart owner is a happy snake.
  • 06-13-2010, 02:03 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sadistic Serpent View Post
    Good job! And good luck with your ball ypthon!

    Feel free to ask any questions you have here, I or someone esle will be happy to answer them. A smart owner is a happy snake.

    Thank you very much! I have been planning everything down to the details lol so I hope my ball will be very happy and healthy :D

    If I have any questions ill be sure to ask! Thank you very much for the help, I really appreciate it :) :bow:
  • 06-13-2010, 02:08 PM
    RR - Mackenzie
    Re: Is this really a humane way to pre-kill?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeV View Post
    Thank you very much! I have been planning everything down to the details lol so I hope my ball will be very happy and healthy :D

    If I have any questions ill be sure to ask! Thank you very much for the help, I really appreciate it :) :bow:

    No problem :) :D :gj:
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