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  • 05-24-2010, 07:26 AM
    Pepee
    Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    Hi everyone,
    i read Hundreds of posts here but this is my first :)

    I am going to buy a Bumblebee(female) and in about 2-3 years a Desert(male) morph.

    Bumblebee x Desert:
    1/8 Normal
    1/8 Pastel
    1/8 Spider
    1/8 Bumblebee
    1/8 Desert
    1/8 Desert Pastel
    1/8 Desert Spider
    1/8 Desert Bumblebee

    Now i would like to know how do i add the pied morph into this ?
    ( both Het. for pied ? or will a Desert Pied x Bumblebee add Pied into the baby's ? )
    ( so one Het. for pied isn't enough ? )
    and do you know wich morphs will add to the list then ? ( spider pied ? etc.. )

    I hope you guys know what i mean :D

    Thank you so much.
    Peter.
  • 05-24-2010, 07:59 AM
    J.KNOX
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    You could have them both het piebald or breed a dessert pied and a spied together since pied is ressesive it needs to be on both sides or you get hets
  • 05-25-2010, 03:04 AM
    BAMReptiles
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    you realize that pied spiders only have head pattern right?
  • 05-25-2010, 03:41 AM
    bad-one
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    If you breed a Desert X Bumble bee it should be:

    1/4 bumble bee het. desert
    1/4 spider het. desert
    1/4 pastel het. desert
    1/4 normal het. desert

    Basically all offspring will either appear bumble bee, spider, pastel or normal and just carry the desert gene because desert is recessive. You'd have to breed one of the offspring back up to the dad to make visual deserts/combos.

    (I'm pretty sure thats how it works, someone correct me in I'm wrong)

    I'm tired so I won't even go into bringing pied in the mix...
  • 05-25-2010, 04:52 AM
    Ntume
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    This guy comes from our dutch forums, and isn't quite the genetics genius. :p

    either way, theres a recessive morph called 'Desert ghost', and a dominant version called 'Desert'.

    He doesn't realize that the spider pied only carries a spider head, and a completely white body.

    A bumblebee pied also only has a patterned head, on a white base body.
    So a desert bumblebee pied would still be a white snake with a colored head.

    This is just someone who wants to step into breeding asap, has seen the morphs on pictures but never even handled a ball.

    bumblebee x desert

    offspring x pied

    offspring x offspring.

    10 year project.

    Or bring a new mortgage on your house and try to buy a bumblebee het pied x desert het pied.

    Greets,

    Yaron
  • 05-25-2010, 04:55 AM
    irezumi67
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    they just see the dollar bills in there eyes
    weer een die nooit een slang heeft gehad maar
    denk he das easy money
  • 05-25-2010, 04:58 AM
    Ntume
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    psies ;)

    greets,

    Yaron
  • 05-25-2010, 11:58 AM
    Ntume
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    And to add - I don't think anyone has made a desert bumblebee pied - or even a desert bumblebee het pied.

    Greets,

    Yaron
  • 05-25-2010, 01:25 PM
    RockingRoyals
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by irezumi67 View Post
    they just see the dollar bills in there eyes
    weer een die nooit een slang heeft gehad maar
    denk he das easy money

    Please reply in English so everyone can read your comment...


    Regards Bas
  • 05-25-2010, 01:27 PM
    RockingRoyals
    Re: Bumblebee x Desert Ballpython
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bad-one View Post
    If you breed a Desert X Bumble bee it should be:

    1/4 bumble bee het. desert
    1/4 spider het. desert
    1/4 pastel het. desert
    1/4 normal het. desert

    Basically all offspring will either appear bumble bee, spider, pastel or normal and just carry the desert gene because desert is recessive. You'd have to breed one of the offspring back up to the dad to make visual deserts/combos.

    (I'm pretty sure thats how it works, someone correct me in I'm wrong)

    I'm tired so I won't even go into bringing pied in the mix...


    Your mixing the Desert and the Desert Ghost up.
    The topicstarter is talking about the dominant Desert gene.

    Regards,

    Bas
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