Cool or dont cool?

Of course unless I find a suitable breedable female I wont be breeding this year but. I read about people cooling to prep them for breeding. And som people say they dont do it.

Is it really needed or is it just a preferance?

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Of course unless I find a suitable breedable female I wont be breeding this year but. I read about people cooling to prep them for breeding. And som people say they dont do it.

Is it really needed or is it just a preferance?

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I never did cool my breeders and will not in the future.I did produce eggs also.In my opinion its a waste of time.

I do not cool. The ambient temperature drops naturally in the cooler months anyway so I just let nature provide my "cooling" though it is usually just a degree or two and because I have a lot of windows in the room, the amount of daylight is naturally shorter. I simply start pairing in early Fall. No other preparations needed. :D

yes i think it's called brumation and i figure it wont hurt and everyone else is doing it so why not . there are people who don't this is my first year breeding so we'll see it seems to work though caught my het pied locked with my big girl sam shortly after i warmed her up

Have yet to ever cool. But once in a while we mist to make them think it's the rainy season.

It makes you wonder though, if they are captive hatched and bred.....how do they know what a rainy season is? And so many people have success breeding with and without cooling, I dont understand why you would even go through the trouble.

Cooling would imitate the ball python's natural habitat's seasonal change, which many people believe would better stimulate their snakes to breed. Cooling tends to help with people who live in warmer climates that experience little to no seasonal change. People like me who live in an area that experiences seasonal change (cooler temperatures, shorter light hours, etc) might have success with breeding even if we don't intentionally cool since the temperature inside naturally falls at night due to cold temperatures outside. This can provide the cooling thought to be needed to stimulate the snakes to breed.

This is just my thoughts on it. I don't bother to cool. During the warm months, temperatures get up to 80 degrees in my animal room while in the winter months, temperatures tend to stay in the lower 70s.

Last season was my first and I had 12 clutches out of 12 attempts; no cooling, just placed males with the females and... presto.

BrandonsBalls

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Originally Posted by rebel750

It makes you wonder though, if they are captive hatched and bred.....how do they know what a rainy season is? And so many people have success breeding with and without cooling, I dont understand why you would even go through the trouble.

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They know its rainy season because of low pressure during rain storms. Although many folks dont cool their animals it naturally gets colder in most homes during winter months. Meaning daytime highs and night time lows will naturally vary in any home enough to trigger breeding and or fasting.

Gregg Graziani said when they had the drought in Florida a couple of years ago and they had no rain he had about 100 females that should have laid and didnt because the lack of low pressure from no rain storms. He said he was able to control everything else like temps and humidity but not air pressure.

I have had sucessful breedings for two straight years now. I live in south florida and don't cool. The habit of cooling snakes for breeding started because it is necessary for most North American snakes(like kings and corns).
The temps in the BP's natural range don't vary enough to warrant cooling. The information in the previous post about barometric pressure is interesting though, as the rainfall does change drastically in thier range. Fortunately it does here in South Florida too.

Some climate info for Ghana:
http://www.climatetemp.info/ghana/