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  • 10-25-2009, 08:01 PM
    angllady2
    Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    So I decided to try and breed a yellowbelly pied. I am however having a difficult time figuring out the genetics.

    I know it takes two pied genes to make a pied. That part was easy. However, I keep getting conflicting information on yellowbellies.

    One place says you get all yellowbellies if you breed a YB to a normal. Other places say you get 50% YB and 50% normal. :confused:

    My question is this: If I were to breed a YB female who is het pied to a visual pied male, would she produce any YB pieds or only het YB and het YB pieds?

    Before I invest a fortune in animals that won't produce what I'm looking for, I am hoping someone with more experience can point me in the right direction. :please:

    Thank you for your time.

    gale
  • 10-25-2009, 08:07 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    yellowbelly is a codominant gene:

    yellow belly x normal gives you - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies (each egg as 50% chance)

    Ivory x normal will give you all yellow bellies though (maybe this was what you were seeing?)

    yellow belly x pied - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies ALL 100% het for pied

    Take 1.1 yellow bellies het pied and breed them together this will give you the possibility of having any of the following:
    - 66% het pieds
    - yellow bellies 66% het pied
    - yellow belly pied
    - ivoy 66% het pied
    - ivory pied
    - pieds

    Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
    -100% het pieds
    -Yellow belly pieds
    -yellow bellies 100% het pied

    I cant remember the break downs for the % of each possibility right now. Hope that helped though :)
  • 10-25-2009, 08:07 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    So I decided to try and breed a yellowbelly pied. I am however having a difficult time figuring out the genetics.

    I know it takes two pied genes to make a pied. That part was easy. However, I keep getting conflicting information on yellowbellies.

    One place says you get all yellowbellies if you breed a YB to a normal. Other places say you get 50% YB and 50% normal. :confused:

    My question is this: If I were to breed a YB female who is het pied to a visual pied male, would she produce any YB pieds or only het YB and het YB pieds?

    Before I invest a fortune in animals that won't produce what I'm looking for, I am hoping someone with more experience can point me in the right direction. :please:

    Thank you for your time.

    gale

    If you breed a YB to a normal the clutch "should" be 1/2 YB 1/2 normals.There is no such thing as het YB,its either a YB or a normal.
  • 10-25-2009, 08:10 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    yellowbelly is a codominant gene:

    yellow belly x normal gives you - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies (each egg as 50% chance)

    Ivory x normal will give you all yellow bellies though (maybe this was what you were seeing?)

    yellow belly x pied - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies ALL 100% het for pied

    Take 1.1 yellow bellies het pied and breed them together this will give you the possibility of having any of the following:
    - 66% het pieds
    - yellow bellies 66% het pied
    - yellow belly pied
    - ivoy 66% het pied
    - ivory pied
    - pieds

    Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
    -100% het pieds
    -Yellow belly pieds
    -yellow bellies 100% het pied

    I cant remember the break downs for the % of each possibility right now. Hope that helped though :)

    You corrected the ivory pied in the last part :P.I hate it when i mess up to :gj:
  • 10-25-2009, 08:12 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    You corrected the ivory pied in the last part :P.I hate it when i mess up to :gj:

    lol i always re-read my posts to make sure i dont need to fix something and went "...wait a minute!"
  • 10-25-2009, 08:13 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    lol i always re-read my posts to make sure i dont need to fix something and went "...wait a minute!"

    Been there done that :P
  • 10-25-2009, 08:40 PM
    jkobylka
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Good info here... YB Pied is an excellent project!

    Justin
  • 10-25-2009, 09:02 PM
    angllady2
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Thank you for clearing that up for me. :gj:

    And I am sure that one place I visited said you would get all YB from a YB X Normal cross, which did not sound right since I was pretty sure YB was co-dominant.

    However, you gave me exactly the information I needed, and I am now confident I can succeed with my YB Pied project. It will take time, but I am a patient person.

    Thanks again,

    Gale
  • 10-25-2009, 09:02 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    Good info here... YB Pied is an excellent project!

    Justin

    i go to your site to drool over the YB pied at least once a week.

    Is there an ivory pied in the works? i want to see what that would look like.
  • 10-25-2009, 11:43 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
    -100% het pieds
    -Yellow belly pieds
    -yellow bellies 100% het pied

    Actually YB het Pied x Pied yields:

    25% Het Pieds
    25% YB Het Pieds
    25% YB Pieds
    25% Pieds

    :gj:
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