Spinning Spider!!!

Newbie here!!!

I just bought a beautiful female spider ball python a week ago. She is only about 2 months old and i noticed the third day of owning her that she was literally spinning her head and the rest of her body. She mainly stays in a spot in her tank and wont move at all. Any advice? Bought for my girlfriends birthday and intend to breed our new spider with our Pastels. Should i not incase the genetics carry over to the offspring? Please any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by GoodtmsBall

Newbie here!!!

I just bought a beautiful female spider ball python a week ago. She is only about 2 months old and i noticed the third day of owning her that she was literally spinning her head and the rest of her body. She mainly stays in a spot in her tank and wont move at all. Any advice? Bought for my girlfriends birthday and intend to breed our new spider with our Pastels. Should i not incase the genetics carry over to the offspring? Please any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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It's a genetic thing with spiders, Not all do it but i would say most. Shes no where near ready to breed but when she is you should be fine.

So....which one is the winner peeps. The "spinning Spider" threads...or the "is this a yellowbelly" threads?

You're going to need to live with it. It's as genetic as the world wide love for Big Gunns is HUGE.:D

Spiders spin and wobble.... Its what they do.

I have a spider that doesn't corkscrew or wobble, they don't ALL do it.
I'm interested in if his offspring will, should find out soon :P

Should not the seller reveal a known wobbler?
Is passing on snakes that are known to wobble to someone unknowing even ethical?
I understand the wobble can show later on after the snake is sold as a hatchling, but like this case, I'd bet the previous owner knew it wobbled before selling it to said person without acknowledging it.

I've seen more of these wobblers ending up in noobies hands with no knowledge what so ever of the defect.

Wonders to himself why this is.
Preying on new people into the hobby?
Knowledgeable hobbyist would ask questions about a wobble before hand, but a nooby won't know.

I'm not exactly keen on buyer beware with snakes.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

I have a spider that doesn't corkscrew or wobble, they don't ALL do it.
I'm interested in if his offspring will, should find out soon :P

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He wobbles Jerry. He just does it when you're not around. :P

It'll be interesting to see if he passes on the trait....

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

He wobbles Jerry. He just does it when you're not around. :P

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I've held him for long periods, no wobbles I've seen, and he's over a year old now.
LOL at hiding it from me, but who knows, I can't say I watch him 24/7 but I have seen and held numerous wobblers, he shows none of it.
Maybe they do all have it, to some extent, I just haven't seen anything to lead me to believe he wobbles at all.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

It'll be interesting to see if he passes on the trait....

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If he does he's a pet ;)
Oh, and the asf's are doing awesome, thanks again :gj:

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

If he does he's a pet ;)
Oh, and the asf's are doing awesome, thanks again :gj:

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If he does pass it on, just chalk it up to the genetics, no need to make him a pet, its just part of the gene.

And glad to hear they are doing good.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

If he does pass it on, just chalk it up to the genetics, no need to make him a pet, its just part of the gene.

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Have you held a full on corkscrewing spider?
It's not a pretty sight IMO
I just would rather go woma, pinstripe or any of the other pattern changing morphs than to breed a wobbler, others may have no problem with it, but I do.

In the end you have to be happy with the animal, and able to sleep at night.
I can't say I'd sleep well knowing I was selling wobbling spiders without revealing it.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

And glad to hear they are doing good.

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No escapes, all doing well, doubt they can fit through the screen.

Most Spiders will do a corkscrew/spinning of the body & wobble their heads. In some cases they can majorly have it, and other times they don't have it as bad. Sometimes, they won't have it at all, but that doesn't mean that they don't carry the corkscrew & wobble in their genes. Some Spiders that don't show it at all will sometimes show it when they are stressed.

This gene can be spread to the offspring, and even normal Ball pythons can get this if one of the parents are a Spider and does happen to carry the corkscrew & wobble in their genes. So, if you bred a Spider to any other morph, the other morph in the offspring could even get it because it has the Spider's genes, if that makes sense. Even if the parent doesn't show the corkscrew or wobble, it could still have it in its genes and pass it on to any of the offspring.