Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

I just talked to Daniel Solis, the breeder I got her from. He said he’s pretty confident that’s a female and especially at that size but that mistakes can happen. Suggested I try popping her sometime. We’ll see. I still think Phyllis is a lady snake but that was thrown into question as soon as I saw that probe slip 8 scales deep lol. I do know I guy with a 15 yr old 1.1 pair of adult kalatoas that are both over 10’ he says, so it’s not impossible for a male to get that big.
The picture with my vet is only slightly misleading as the perspective in the photo make the latter half of the snake seem larger than it is. Have no doubt though, she’s quite large hah! Wish me luck with my first attempt at administering an injection solo tomorrow. I think it will be okay.
And yes, I need to post in Leonard’s thread soon. He hung out the other night and watched half of The Lost World with me on the couch. He’s got the curiosity of a retic at the speed of a ball python. I think he’ll fit in quite well here [emoji6]



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While I cant relate to Retics as I don't own one. There's a Youtuber under the name of "drthik1" (I think CALMpythons from here actually knows him) who breeds/owns a bunch of Burms and Retics ....he swears any male can reach the size of any female. That certainly didnt reflect what I had always been told by other breeders, but after looking as his collection I believe its possible now.

I second a vote on popping. The breeder whom I purchased my male Burm from had an incredibly large clutch so I was somewhat concerned that there was a chance he just did a quick probe and missed something. A popping on my end however showed two, long undeniable red hemipenes ...so I was comforted by that. Maybe Im an odd person for being happy at the thought of seeing my snake's junk lol....but I think you understand what I saying.

Unless you are familiar with popping, i wouldnt just 'try' it. You can hurt the snake if done wrong. If you are really worried, just find another vet and take Phyllis in for a probing. Shouldnt be too expensive. My vet charges $50 for an office visit and will probe an extra snake no charge if i am bringing in something else. Thats how i verified Dottie was a she. I was told she was a 'she' as she was popped as a baby by Dr Adolf Maas who is the local be all end all reptile vet in the area. But i wanted to make sure so when i had to take Harley in for a checkup, i just dragged Dottie along for a quick probing and the vet confirmed she is a she.

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

I just talked to Daniel Solis, the breeder I got her from. He said he’s pretty confident that’s a female and especially at that size but that mistakes can happen. Suggested I try popping her sometime. We’ll see. I still think Phyllis is a lady snake but that was thrown into question as soon as I saw that probe slip 8 scales deep lol. I do know I guy with a 15 yr old 1.1 pair of adult kalatoas that are both over 10’ he says, so it’s not impossible for a male to get that big.
The picture with my vet is only slightly misleading as the perspective in the photo make the latter half of the snake seem larger than it is. Have no doubt though, she’s quite large hah! Wish me luck with my first attempt at administering an injection solo tomorrow. I think it will be okay.
And yes, I need to post in Leonard’s thread soon. He hung out the other night and watched half of The Lost World with me on the couch. He’s got the curiosity of a retic at the speed of a ball python. I think he’ll fit in quite well here [emoji6]



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If you do try popping her .... be sure to film it and upload it here please ..
I'm at a loose end now the WestWorld series has ended ..

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Originally Posted by zincubus

if you do try popping her .... Be sure to film it and upload it here please ..
I'm at a loose end now the westworld series has ended ..

:)


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lol!

I would think she got the mouth rot *from* rubbing, not rubbing because of it but I know that would not be good news so I REALLY hope it's not the case. Hopefully getting this all cured up fixes the issues. She might get so grumpy with all the manhandling and gum rubbing, hopefully all goes well. That's awesome you found such a great vet, shame she's so far away. You're such a great keeper to do so much for this retic that is obviously becoming a headache. I really hope she knocks out the pushing. I wish I had more ideas to offer.

8 scales would make me think male but not for sure... eep seems like you'd need a helper to try to pop a snake that big!

Wishing you both well

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

I would think she got the mouth rot *from* rubbing, not rubbing because of it but I know that would not be good news so I REALLY hope it's not the case. Hopefully getting this all cured up fixes the issues. She might get so grumpy with all the manhandling and gum rubbing, hopefully all goes well. That's awesome you found such a great vet, shame she's so far away. You're such a great keeper to do so much for this retic that is obviously becoming a headache. I really hope she knocks out the pushing. I wish I had more ideas to offer.

8 scales would make me think male but not for sure... eep seems like you'd need a helper to try to pop a snake that big!

Wishing you both well

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Yeah my theory is that the pushing caused the mouth rot, which in turn irritated her, causing more pushing, which sustained the mouth rot, causing more irritation and pushing, creating a vicious cycle.
She certainly isn’t a fan the injections or being restrained to apply the cream to her face, but surprisingly isn’t overly grumpy afterwards. Just slithers back into the cage and sulks in the corner or on her shelf.
8scales also makes me curious if she’s male but Daniel Solis said at her size for her age he’s pretty confident it’s a female. And popping her would certainly be a two perfect or more job.
I really hope she bounces back well and knocks off the pushing, she’s doing alright so far but she did eat only 4 days ago. I’ve invested so much time, effort, and $ in this animal that I’d hate to have to rehome her. I’d be pretty crushed.


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Good luck man. Fingers crossed.

I’m sure you are on the path to beating this. I bet when you pop her, she will be a he. That’s pretty deep to be a female on that scale count.

You are doing great! "Just push through it." You will be fine.

Oops! LOL. Hope that made you laugh.

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

Yeah my theory is that the pushing caused the mouth rot, which in turn irritated her, causing more pushing, which sustained the mouth rot, causing more irritation and pushing, creating a vicious cycle.
She certainly isn’t a fan the injections or being restrained to apply the cream to her face, but surprisingly isn’t overly grumpy afterwards. Just slithers back into the cage and sulks in the corner or on her shelf.
8scales also makes me curious if she’s male but Daniel Solis said at her size for her age he’s pretty confident it’s a female. And popping her would certainly be a two perfect or more job.
I really hope she bounces back well and knocks off the pushing, she’s doing alright so far but she did eat only 4 days ago. I’ve invested so much time, effort, and $ in this animal that I’d hate to have to rehome her. I’d be pretty crushed.


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Chatting more on the phone with my vet. She’s been talking about Phyllis with another exotics expert and they both seem curious if she’s just still hungry. She didn’t think Phyllis seemed overweight when I brought her in, which is a relief to me. I should have a box of 4-6lb rabbits showing up this week. One of them would be the equivalent of 5 leaner meatier rats all in one shot. Gotta find a local source though. Rodent pro ain’t cheap and monster feeders never responded after I placed an order. I won’t beg anyone to take my business if they are fine without it.