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The carpet group is a wonderful family of pythons.
The diamond python reminds me of the southern most boa species, the Argentine boa constrictor.
Coastals seem to be abundant and hardy like the Boa Imperator.
The Bredli species is very unique and one of the easiest keeps when it comes to pythons.
In general I think the carpet pythons are some of the most rewarding animals to keep, easy and social once mature.
It is hard to pick a favorite and honestly with carpets, you can't go wrong.
The Diamond python is the only one in the group that needs some special care however a mindful, semi advanced keeper would not have many issues.
Aussie snakes are special!
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Speaking of special,,
There are locality animals like this that are somewhat rare in captivity.
This is something that needs to be kept pure and not made into any morph!
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Speaking of special,,
There are locality animals like this that are somewhat rare in captivity.
This is something that needs to be kept pure and not made into any morph!
I agree that we should keep this and other localities pure as best we can. My only hesitation or area where I could foresee issues is the very limited gene pool we have for this locality. The entire captive population descends from a single breeding pair 4 generations ago. So far the offspring seem to do well that I’ve seen from folks that have bred them, but no telling how long that can be kept up?
I do think that as they’re better established nowadays they could provide a nice outcrossing to some of the red coastal projects. Given that Brisbanes tend to throw reddish babies.
Nonetheless, I love having a pair of these animals. There’s something about them that just does it for me.
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It would be nice if somehow a small sample of locality Brissys were allowed to cross into the states.
I don't see why there would be any hangup if it were to help sustain a species in US captivity.
It is unfortunate that reptile keeping in general is fairly regulated.
So far, we've been lucky with the Brissys here.
I'm lucky enough to have one!
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Oh, are we reflecting on the joys of carpet pythons again? [emoji16]
So glad I took the dive into Morelia and picked Pandora up. She's such a wonderful little snake. Can't wait to see her when she's big and mature!
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few unrelated-to-US-line Brisbanes floating around in Europe, but I have a feeling Nick would have tracked them down and imported fresh blood by now. I suppose we'll just have to enjoy the ones we have while we can.
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Oh, are we reflecting on the joys of carpet pythons again? [emoji16]
So glad I took the dive into Morelia and picked Pandora up. She's such a wonderful little snake. Can't wait to see her when she's big and mature!
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few unrelated-to-US-line Brisbanes floating around in Europe, but I have a feeling Nick would have tracked them down and imported fresh blood by now. I suppose we'll just have to enjoy the ones we have while we can.
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Nick’s Brisbanes came from Europe from the only documented remaining living pure pair he could track down that were owned by Paul Harris’s girlfriend. Anything pure Brisbane in the US or Europe (unless it was smuggled in the last 30yrs) descends from that one pair that was bred when they were like 25yrs old as a last attempt to keep that bloodline from disappearing entirely. Nick’s actually had to send Brisbanes back to Europe from whence they came to help replenish the captive population over there.
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Dang! Oh well, at least with still have Brisbanes for the time being. Hopefully everyone's snakes will make it to 25 like that last pair did.
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Dang! Oh well, at least with still have Brisbanes for the time being. Hopefully everyone's snakes will make it to 25 like that last pair did.
Nick’s on a 2015 episode of MPR where he talks briefly about that project. It’s close to an hour into that show when he’s talking about them and how absolutely ancient those founder animals looked when he visited Paul in Germany I believe. He told me all about it on the phone too. “These snakes were like 30yrs old and looked like they were 30,000 years old!”
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Some of the wild Australian carpets I've seen while browsing social media and iNaturalist look... not always ancient, but definitely very weathered. Many are "ancient snake" large, and more than a few have big old heads and scarring from big prey. It's amazing how tough these snakes can be and how long they can last.
I'd be lying if I said that looking at those wild carpets hasn't left me wanting another, haha. Some of those wild carpets are gorgeous. It would be cool to have Morelia from both ends of the genus' distribution, ie. Pandora and a more southerly coastal or diamond.
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Good discussion.
JM, I learned something I didn’t know about the the state of the Brissy’s here.
Having reviewed the last 45 “Feeding” threads that have been posted I’m happy to say this tidbit of information was a breath of the fresh stuff 👍
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Good discussion.
JM, I learned something I didn’t know about the the state of the Brissy’s here.
Having reviewed the last 45 “Feeding” threads that have been posted I’m happy to say this tidbit of information was a breath of the fresh stuff [emoji106]
Yep, it took 4 breedings to get enough of both sexes to begin establishing them in the hobby again. I believe the first breeding yielded a small clutch all held back by Paul Harris to continue re-establishing the project. 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011 all involved F1 from the founder animals if not the founders again themselves.
You and I both have what I believe would be F3 from the original founder stock.
First picture is a 2015 pairing that was repeated in 2018 that produced my female.
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Michael Pennell’s breeders are siblings to the respective male and female in the second picture shown here.
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Finally figured out the color balance slider on my camera! Have some photos of a more true-to-life fired up Pandora -- she really is that yellow. [emoji169]
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Wow! I can’t believe I scrolled through all 42 pages of this thread and was just amazed at all the photos, comments, and descriptions. The pics and the stories just got more and more interesting the deeper I got. Thanks to all the Morelia mafia and the new inductees! Lol. ;)
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Wow! I can’t believe I scrolled through all 42 pages of this thread and was just amazed at all the photos, comments, and descriptions. The pics and the stories just got more and more interesting the deeper I got. Thanks to all the Morelia mafia and the new inductees! Lol. ;)
The Man, the Myth, the Legend! My brother AL Clark! So glad you popped in! Hope all is bliss and blessed with you sir. Salute!
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The Man, the Myth, the Legend! My brother AL Clark! So glad you popped in! Hope all is bliss and blessed with you sir. Salute!
Hey EL! I did pop in a couple of days ago, good to see your Morelia are doing well. I did PM you and hope all is well. Thanks for the intro! Hahaha.
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Good stuff Wrongpython, Zig and JM.
I missed a few pictures. I'm glad I stopped in.
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I suppose I can play along and add another picture.
Here's my 2020. Female, Brisbane, locality Coastal Carpet.
I have noticed her blacks are now starting to go silver which is interesting to me.
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She's not the friendliest critter here but she has calmed a bit since arriving here last September.
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That rock background looks familiar to me.
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The photos you took came out really nice.
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Thanks!
Heh, I'd imagine it looks familiar. You got your cage backdrops from Universal Rocks, right? Barring some of the specialty items, most of their classic brown offerings have the same color and texture. Pandora's background rock here is more or less a perfect match to Adelita's rocky background and ledges.
Glad to hear Gem is settling in, by the way!
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Heh, I'd imagine it looks familiar. You got your cage backdrops from Universal Rocks, right? Barring some of the specialty items, most of their classic brown offerings have the same color and texture. Pandora's background rock here is more or less a perfect match to Adelita's rocky background and ledges.
Glad to hear Gem is settling in, by the way!
My backgrounds are in fact from there.
Ed Lilley shipped them along with my cages. The Brissy has a very 3D version. The boa and Bredli have flatter backgrounds but I love the look of all of them.
Yours included. Nice setup.
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Now you're just raking in the "likes"! ;)
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Now you're just raking in the "likes"! ;)
Maybe, but I have not posted in the thread for a bit.
so, LIKE away!
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Maybe, but I have not posted in the thread for a bit.
so, LIKE away!
Your mom & Yafe are always welcome. :cool:
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Sexual Size Dimorphism does occur in carpet pythons and in the species where males engage in combat, the size favors the male.
This is a good study to read.
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...HERN_TERRITORY.
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Another BIG carpet Down Under.
Nice picture quality too.
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Very impressive snake! :bow:
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Brissy and Bredli
Spring 2022 on the deck.
This is the very first time Gem has been outside here. She is a Brisbane, locality coastal carpet python.
I'm surprised how beautiful this non-morph, locality animal is. Her colors really pop. Mother Nature provides my favorite colors and patterns.
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She was extremely defensive and bit and coiled my glove hand when we got outside.
That said, she looked beautiful.
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This guy, Kevin is a Bredli python and he's a chunk. I could not believe how heavy he was today. This animal has boa constrictor density.
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The span of the deck rail here is 8 feet. Kevin is not stretched out, but to get perspective I wanted to mention the length of the span. My old girl, Jewel went the full length and a tad more.
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Kevin was also a tad defensive today but he calmed quickly.
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These two different species are by far my favorites in the carpet group. I will say I do not have experience with Diamond pythons. I'm sure I would enjoy them just the same.
I have to say these Bredli are not only large and impressive, they are also almost bullet proof when it comes to husbandry.
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No one can say you're not playing with a full (& beautiful) deck! :sweeet:
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Very nice Indeed Gio.
There colours look awsome against the deck rail
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Is it a coincidence or more common than what people think?
Almost every time I search for photos of carpet pythons in the wild, I see large examples. Obviously the big ones get the media attention which isn't surprising. I'm sure there are plenty of smaller specimens to go around too.
Here are two, big combative males. The males that live a long time in the wild will typically be the larger sex according to Nick Mutton. They are more successful in combat if they are larger than their competitor and win the breeding rights.
https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/two-lar...female-2289068
Another photo story that popped.
https://www.newsweek.com/massive-car...n-door-1594637
It makes me miss my big girl.
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We shall see if my new crew members here attain a similar size.
I hope to see some more morelia fans pop in here to keep the thread alive.
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2019 0.1 Rockhampton Locality Coastal
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Now we're getting it back!
Summer is here so it is time to load up the pictures!
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2019 1.0 Brisbane Locality Coastal
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Love those saddles with black borders- on yours as well as on corn snakes & others. Great looking snake there.
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Locality coastal carpets are almost nonexistent in the states. JM has at least 3 on the coastal front, and I’m sure on the jungle.
Bredli are recognized as a different species so I guess they are a locality in their own right.
Hypo, striped and stone washed all seem to be natural mutations. Eventually selective breeding will distance them from a locale but Bredli only come from one place so it is what it is.
Carpets are my favorite of the Morelia
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Haven't been around here as much lately, but here, have a Pandora. She's growing like a weed and passed the 3' mark recently. Her second birthday is not quite two months away and she's definitely starting to look like a young adult carpet!
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Haven't been around here as much lately, but here, have a Pandora. She's growing like a weed and passed the 3' mark recently. Her second birthday is not quite two months away and she's definitely starting to look like a young adult carpet!
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What a looker!
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First day warm enough up here in Wisconsin for Rolo to get outsidehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b71f2192b8.jpg
this year, it was a very cold start to spring. Clearly she is loving the sun. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3710077675.jpg
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That's a great looking carpet.
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"Heeeeeere birdy birdy birdy .... "
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Your Brizzy and enclosure look GREAT Crook! I love those sky hides and perches. Which enclosures are you using btw?
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Your Brizzy and enclosure look GREAT Crook! I love those sky hides and perches. Which enclosures are you using btw?
Thanks bud! These are Herptastic, who turned out to be a total scumbag… took over $100k worth of orders end of last year and then declared bankruptcy and closed business. Dodged that bullet by like 5 months. If I ever redo my room/cages I think I’m going with AP or Dragonhaus
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