Caesar progression thread.

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

Beautiful snakes for sure !


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Thanks. Caesar is a pretty awesome little guy even though he poops and pees all the time lol.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Man, it's hard to believe it's almost been a year I've had Caesar. I was looking through his pics and he was so cute as a baby. Now he is so big.....him when i got him
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And him now....
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Can't believe how much he has grown and changed. He's still a giant baby though and has never tried to bite or hiss at me. Although we did get into a shoving match tonight when he was sleeping next to a pile of piss i was trying to clean up. I was shoving him over and he kept shoving me back lol. After about 6 times, he moved and looked at me. I then gave him a nice big shove and he moved. I think he was trying to see who would win the shoving match...i did :P

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I remember those days. I got Wallace September 27th last year.
He was tiny.
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He's much larger now. Not as large as Caesar, but he contains much more dwarf and is fed a lot less.

Its been really quite fun posting updates with you and JM this last year for sure.
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Keep the updates coming!

Lol I let Caesar do a little exploring on the floor while I sat there with him. He found one of the old hides and decided to take a break inside it. Seems he found a home away from home haha.
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That is adorable. At least you know he really likes those hides.
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That is adorable. At least you know he really likes those hides.
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Thanks. Yeah he loves his hides haha. He is really such a good boy. I was worrying a bit when I was kicking around the idea of getting a retic as I had heard the horror stories about them. I'm glad I decided to get one though as Caesar is like a bigger, smarter and LOT more active boa lol.

Ok not sure if any of you guys' retics like to be pet but this is pretty much Caesar on a nightly deal. The lights go out and he comes to the front and stares out the front until I open the door and start petting him. He then sits next to me like this for 30 mins or more just soaking in the attention lol. He's truly a weirdo as he seems to crave the attention every night. I never imagined a retic would be like this and like I said, I was actually kind of scared to get a retic at first. He doesn't really care to be picked up though but otherwise, he loves the attention and petting and if he is on the floor and I sit by him, he comes over towards me lol.

And yeah yeah, I'm probably reading stuff into it but it sure seems like it as this has been nightly thing for the past week now. And on a side note, he is getting pretty big.
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Ok not sure if any of you guys' retics like to be pet but this is pretty much Caesar on a nightly deal. The lights go out and he comes to the front and stares out the front until I open the door and start petting him. He then sits next to me like this for 30 mins or more just soaking in the attention lol. He's truly a weirdo as he seems to crave the attention every night. I never imagined a retic would be like this and like I said, I was actually kind of scared to get a retic at first. He doesn't really care to be picked up though but otherwise, he loves the attention and petting and if he is on the floor and I sit by him, he comes over towards me lol.

And yeah yeah, I'm probably reading stuff into it but it sure seems like it as this has been nightly thing for the past week now. And on a side note, he is getting pretty big.
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Amazing !

I'm in the process of reducing my collection of 20 snakes to a more manageable number where I can give certain individuals a little more time ..


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Good lord dude! He got huge! Looks like he may be bigger than Phyllis now. He's got that mature muscled raptor head shape going on real nice


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Amazing !

I'm in the process of reducing my collection of 20 snakes to a more manageable number where I can give certain individuals a little more time ..


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Thanks. That's pretty much the main reason i am hesitant about getting more snakes atm. I can easily clean a few more but it's the attention and interaction I'd be able to give them that i worry about.

Gorgeous!

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Good lord dude! He got huge! Looks like he may be bigger than Phyllis now. He's got that mature muscled raptor head shape going on real nice


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Haha you're not kidding. Caesar is a big boy now but he is still like a baby though. He will lay down like a scolded puppy if he thinks is wrong. If i handle him roughly or boop him on the head for any reason, he will just lay there. And like i said, he seems to really enjoy being petted. Only snake I've ever seen that comes over and sits there to be petted haha.

And now you know the reason why I'm having to look at a T65 maybe next summer haha. I think Caesar's mainland and tiger gene has kicked in plus the fact if you dont feed him every 10 days, he obliterates his face lol. Good thing he doesnt have an attitude and is happy 99% of the time.

And no way he can be bigger than Phyliis. Phyllis is a beast!!

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Haha you're not kidding. Caesar is a big boy now but he is still like a baby though. He will lay down like a scolded puppy if he thinks is wrong. If i handle him roughly or boop him on the head for any reason, he will just lay there. And like i said, he seems to really enjoy being petted. Only snake I've ever seen that comes over and sits there to be petted haha.

And now you know the reason why I'm having to look at a T65 maybe next summer haha. I think Caesar's mainland and tiger gene has kicked in plus the fact if you dont feed him every 10 days, he obliterates his face lol. Good thing he doesnt have an attitude and is happy 99% of the time.

And no way he can be bigger than Phyliis. Phyllis is a beast!!

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Lol! I think he'll be fine in that T25 for quite a while, if not forever. People keep 12'+ snakes in those things no problem. And yeah Phyllis may still be a bit bigger than Caesar. Seeing her stretching along this new cage I feel like she's a good 8' or maybe slightly longer now. Caesar's head though! Phyllis doesn't have that beefy muscled dome like that haha!


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Yeah hopefully lol. I've always liked to try and give my snakes enough room to stretch out which is why i was thinking of the T65 next summer. We'll see.

And Caesar does have a muscular head. He has a muscular body too lol. I let him come down to the floor at night sometimes and wander around a little and when he doesnt want me to pick him up, he can just about outrun me trying to scoop him up lol. And i dont think he's even really trying.

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Yeah hopefully lol. I've always liked to try and give my snakes enough room to stretch out which is why i was thinking of the T65 next summer. We'll see.

And Caesar does have a muscular head. He has a muscular body too lol. I let him come down to the floor at night sometimes and wander around a little and when he doesnt want me to pick him up, he can just about outrun me trying to scoop him up lol. And i dont think he's even really trying.

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Caesar has a huge head! Here is Gene from tonight while I had him out. He was in the kitchen stretched out and he is a little over 7' (Have to love 12x12 tiles). He has gained more girth the last few months. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c6df31b8b8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ba9899d64e.jpg

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Well Caesar shed so figured I'd get a couple pics of him. He generally isn't very cooperative though so sorry for the bad pics haha. He's getting so big. These give you an idea. He loves to hang down like this and he still has about 1/3 of his body and tail in his cage on the 3 stack of T25s. And I finally think he has mellowed on the food drive. It's been almost 2 weeks and he isn't pushing. He does push a little when he wants a door slid open so he can sit and look outside or hang down lol.
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That's great, Gene has been pushing a lot. I got 30 jumbo rats, but they don't seem to much larger. Might need to go to rabbits or guinea pigs. I'm shocked he hasn't mangled his face yet. But he has been chilling in his sky hide all the time.

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Yeah, jumbo rats aren't really that huge. I alternate between those and guinea pigs for Caesar. Enjoy the pushing lol. Caesar did it a ton as a baby and messed up his face and chin I don't know how many times. Now that he is older, like I said, he only pushes when he wants a door open so he can sit with his face on the litter dam. Then when he gets bored, he either ventures down to the floor or goes into a hide and goes to sleep haha. Here is his usual hang out though for hours with the door open. Sorry for the washed out face. His head is pretty light in color so flashes don't go well with it lol.
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Random pic of Caesar getting comfy after a jumbo rat dinner.
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Random pic of Caesar getting comfy after a jumbo rat dinner.
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Caesar is looking great!

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Thanks man. I switched him back to aspen as well as all the other snakes and he seems much happier on it. He doesn't really push anymore. I don't think was a fan of the Reptichips. He used to push it aside and lay on the cage floor. Now he lays on the aspen. Also the aspen seems to soak up his piss better and is a lot easier to spot and spot clean. His face was facing the front but I was bugging him and kept petting him and he kept pushing my hand away. Finally I think he got irritated and turned his face to the back of the cage haha. His face is starting to turn a lot more white. Be interesting to see how he looks in a few years as he is still kind of a baby at 17 months old.

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Random pic of Caesar getting comfy after a jumbo rat dinner.
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frickin HUGE!

Lol, yeah he easily the largest of my snakes. He past up my 5 year old BCI girl who is 6.5'. Caesar is 17 months old and easily 7'. I think he is actually larger now or at least feels like it when i leave his door open and he comes out to wander around the floor. Here's another pic of him and while the pic is a bit skewed, he is about almost as thick as my wrist at his thickest point.
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Well I fed Caesar his jumbo rat and he grabbed it by the stomach and boy there was blood all over lol. He had blood all over his head and body. I let him eat it, then I spot cleaned the blood from the aspen and cage floor. I waited 2 days and then decided it was bath time. At first he wasn't too keen on it as I have never given him a bath before but after a few mins, I was able to take off the lid and he loved it. He sat there for about 30 mins while I wiped him down with a wet paper towel and he just put his head on the rim and relaxed. He is such a lush lol.
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Well I fed Caesar his jumbo rat and he grabbed it by the stomach and boy there was blood all over lol. He had blood all over his head and body. I let him eat it, then I spot cleaned the blood from the aspen and cage floor. I waited 2 days and then decided it was bath time. At first he wasn't too keen on it as I have never given him a bath before but after a few mins, I was able to take off the lid and he loved it. He sat there for about 30 mins while I wiped him down with a wet paper towel and he just put his head on the rim and relaxed. He is such a lush lol.
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Hid head is huge. It seems like Caesar and Gene are about the same size. Gene is just shy if 8' (thank God for kitchen tiles) and is a little thicker than my wrist. But Gene has a baby head.

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Hid head is huge. It seems like Caesar and Gene are about the same size. Gene is just shy if 8' (thank God for kitchen tiles) and is a little thicker than my wrist. But Gene has a baby head.

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Lol yeah Caesar does have a big head and he has a huge mouth too when he yawns in front of you haha. That first pic, he looked up at me and yawned before i got the pic, i was shocked how big his mouth is. Caesar is just over 7' and almost as thick as my wrist.

We need some updates.....

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Lol nothing really new with Caesar. He seems to have slowed down growing as he hasnt shed in a while and seems to have mellowed out on his food drive.

Got a few older pics i never posted of him.
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Here he is making a new house outside his house lol.
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And him resting on his shelf.
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Alright, got some epic modern art pics of Caesar's head!! Was chasing him around the floor on my hands and knees trying to get a head pic lol.
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And him deciding that posing wasn't going to happen. He tried to climb on the camera and me to get to the floor lol. Did get a sweet eye pic though.
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Well I fed Caesar his jumbo rat and he grabbed it by the stomach and boy there was blood all over lol. He had blood all over his head and body. I let him eat it, then I spot cleaned the blood from the aspen and cage floor. I waited 2 days and then decided it was bath time. At first he wasn't too keen on it as I have never given him a bath before but after a few mins, I was able to take off the lid and he loved it. He sat there for about 30 mins while I wiped him down with a wet paper towel and he just put his head on the rim and relaxed. He is such a lush lol.
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This happened with my little Ball Python. Just a hopper mouse :P He's gotten so big!! Very hansome boy you've got.

Bring it on Caesar!! Show me what you got in the piss dept!! I am ready. Found a place that sells my old aspen again. Got 3 7.5 cu ft bales for $14.97 with free Thanksgiving shipping. Cant beat that price.
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That's a great deal on the bedding Sauzo. I need to order some myself. :)

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Alright, got some epic modern art pics of Caesar's head!! Was chasing him around the floor on my hands and knees trying to get a head pic lol.
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And him deciding that posing wasn't going to happen. He tried to climb on the camera and me to get to the floor lol. Did get a sweet eye pic though.
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That face is everything so jelly I love to one day get a gorgeous reticulated python but at five foot and child sized hands it may just stay a dream? Please keep the fantastic pictures coming at least I can live vicariously through you :P

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That face is everything so jelly I love to one day get a gorgeous reticulated python but at five foot and child sized hands it may just stay a dream? Please keep the fantastic pictures coming at least I can live vicariously through you :P

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Thanks. You should be be fine assuming you get something like high percentage SD/D. Caesar is just over 7 ft but he is a lush and easy to drag around. He doesnt particularly care to be carried around but its not that bad really.

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Thanks. You should be be fine assuming you get something like high percentage SD/D. Caesar is just over 7 ft but he is a lush and easy to drag around. He doesnt particularly care to be carried around but its not that bad really.

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Bless you that really made me day :) my sister had an albino retic and I remember drooling over it but at the time she hadn't full forgiven me for messing up her make up while bouncing around to New kids on the Block lol so never got to hold it one day I will get my dance with a retic gorgeous animal you have absolutely breathtaking it's obviously very spoiled baby :P literally and figuratively speaking has you wrapped around her little (or large) tail

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Bless you that really made me day :) my sister had an albino retic and I remember drooling over it but at the time she hadn't full forgiven me for messing up her make up while bouncing around to New kids on the Block lol so never got to hold it one day I will get my dance with a retic gorgeous animal you have absolutely breathtaking it's obviously very spoiled baby :P literally and figuratively speaking has you wrapped around her little (or large) tail

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Haha yeah, all my pets are pretty spoiled with caging and cleaning and stuff. I probably clean them too much. I bet they wish I would spoil them with more food though haha.

And Caesar is a he, not a her.

And I'm pretty sure you would be fine with something like a 50% or higher SD along with some dwarf mixed into it. You can check out Ethereal Exotics which is Shannon Roepke. She has some really awesome 50% SD morphs. I was going to pick up a 50% SD female Platinum tiger from her but I got an awesome deal from Kris Brown at Vital Exotics on Caesar so I couldn't pass it up. I think Kris gave me an awesome deal on Caesar because he was eating him out of the house. Caesar was a pushy hungry baby. Then he calmed down as an adult and now recently, he became pushy again and swelled up half his face. So now it's time for some big guinea pigs until his face heals :(

Oh there is also Mike Zosso. He has a lot of awesome SD stuff as well.

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Haha yeah, all my pets are pretty spoiled with caging and cleaning and stuff. I probably clean them too much. I bet they wish I would spoil them with more food though haha.

And Caesar is a he, not a her.

And I'm pretty sure you would be fine with something like a 50% or higher SD along with some dwarf mixed into it. You can check out Ethereal Exotics which is Shannon Roepke. She has some really awesome 50% SD morphs. I was going to pick up a 50% SD female Platinum tiger from her but I got an awesome deal from Kris Brown at Vital Exotics on Caesar so I couldn't pass it up. I think Kris gave me an awesome deal on Caesar because he was eating him out of the house. Caesar was a pushy hungry baby. Then he calmed down as an adult and now recently, he became pushy again and swelled up half his face. So now it's time for some big guinea pigs until his face heals :(

Oh there is also Mike Zosso. He has a lot of awesome SD stuff as well.

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Sorry lol really bad with pronouns sorry to hear he was demanding seconds or thirds ;)and got his face injuries he will be right as rain or good as new whatever phrase works best under you skilled and watchful eyes. I heard certain morphs also are smaller like golden child is there any truth to that? Healing hugs for Ceased no gladiator movies for him :D he takes it to much to heart what a sweetheart :P

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Sorry lol really bad with pronouns sorry to hear he was demanding seconds or thirds ;)and got his face injuries he will be right as rain or good as new whatever phrase works best under you skilled and watchful eyes. I heard certain morphs also are smaller like golden child is there any truth to that? Healing hugs for Ceased no gladiator movies for him :D he takes it to much to heart what a sweetheart :P

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Thanks. Yeah i think certain morphs are smaller. I was told tigers tend to be bigger and i believe golden child is from dwarfs so it probably should be smaller. This might help. Here is a link from Cody who is the retic expert.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ze-origination

So funny just watched a video of his on YouTube I like the way he behaves better than Jay from the Reptile Zoo it always kind of makes me wonder if he do anything for a sale you know? Plus the way he grabs the babies out of the eggs always makes me nervous if I was that baby retic I put my egg tooth to good use and nail him a few times lol

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So funny just watched a video of his on YouTube I like the way he behaves better than Jay from the Reptile Zoo it always kind of makes me wonder if he do anything for a sale you know? Plus the way he grabs the babies out of the eggs always makes me nervous if I was that baby retic I put my egg tooth to good use and nail him a few times lol

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Lol i see Jay Brewer from Prehistoric Pets as a total salesman. I could picture him selling cars haha. I personally have have never dealt with him but i have heard some iffy stories about the place so i just decided to skip it all together. If i get another retic, it will be Mike Zosso or Shannon Roepke of Ethereal Exotics. Or Bob Clark is he had an auction for something i wanted like a SD ultra ivory or SD platty tiger.

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Lol i see Jay Brewer from Prehistoric Pets as a total salesman. I could picture him selling cars haha. I personally have have never dealt with him but i have heard some iffy stories about the place so i just decided to skip it all together. If i get another retic, it will be Mike Zosso or Shannon Roepke of Ethereal Exotics. Or Bob Clark is he had an auction for something i wanted like a SD ultra ivory or SD platty tiger.

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Oh I saw a Albino Golden Child that was just fabulous from Bob Clark cows are awesome too but still pretty pricey but I love how they get the paradox marks every where so adorable :P

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Oh I saw a Albino Golden Child that was just fabulous from Bob Clark cows are awesome too but still pretty pricey but I love how they get the paradox marks every where so adorable :P

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Yeah cows are awesome but too rich for my blood right now. I've thought about a pied male but i really dont want something over 10 ft. Now if they made SD pieds....

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Bring it on Caesar!! Show me what you got in the piss dept!! I am ready. Found a place that sells my old aspen again. Got 3 7.5 cu ft bales for $14.97 with free Thanksgiving shipping. Cant beat that price.
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I think I found the same place to order that aspen from, and I'm considering doing it after having found that safety pin in my pro coco. How's your humidity with that stuff? Have to mist very often? Does it stick like crazy to wet feeders? I haven't used aspen since I was young and that was with corn snakes.

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I think I found the same place to order that aspen from, and I'm considering doing it after having found that safety pin in my pro coco. How's your humidity with that stuff? Have to mist very often? Does it stick like crazy to wet feeders? I haven't used aspen since I was young and that was with corn snakes.

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Mills Fleet Farm?

Humidity is around 65-70%. None of my boas or retic seem to like much over 70%. If it gets too high, they start pushing and trying to get out like crazy.

Winter time if the heater is on a lot, i usually mist it 2-3 times a week but i dont get the aspen as wet as it probably could be. I tend to just spray the shelves and walls of the cage, hides and aspen some. Basically i just create like a rain in the cage, not a focused soaking of the aspen.

I would imagine it would stick to wet feeders. i always dry the snakes' food off with a paper towel and usually try and feed them on a piece of cardboard as i ran out of printer paper and havent bought any yet. Not too worried about the big snakes as Caesar and Rosey tend to drag their food off anyways lol. It's pretty small pieces as it's shredded aspen so if the bigger snakes swallow a few pieces, their stomach acids break it down.

Overall i like it a lot better. The only downside is it wont hold humidity as well as coco stuff but whatever, i've had them on it for years and they eat, poop and do snake things plus most of all, they seem to enjoy the stuff a lot more and spend more time out and about at night digging and playing around.

And i can say i have never found any rusty safety pins in it. i have found some bigger chunks in it though but nothing foreign like twine, plastic or like i mentioned the rusty safety pin.

Order a bale of it and try it. It's only like $4.99 plus like $7 shipping. See how it works for you and how the snakes like it. Gina and Louie were terrified of ReptiChips when i first used it on them. They would sit on hides and shelves and treat it like hot lava lol. They love their aspen though and took to it like fish in water.

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Mills Fleet Farm?

Humidity is around 65-70%. None of my boas or retic seem to like much over 70%. If it gets too high, they start pushing and trying to get out like crazy.

Winter time if the heater is on a lot, i usually mist it 2-3 times a week but i dont get the aspen as wet as it probably could be. I tend to just spray the shelves and walls of the cage, hides and aspen some. Basically i just create like a rain in the cage, not a focused soaking of the aspen.

I would imagine it would stick to wet feeders. i always dry the snakes' food off with a paper towel and usually try and feed them on a piece of cardboard as i ran out of printer paper and havent bought any yet. Not too worried about the big snakes as Caesar and Rosey tend to drag their food off anyways lol. It's pretty small pieces as it's shredded aspen so if the bigger snakes swallow a few pieces, their stomach acids break it down.

Overall i like it a lot better. The only downside is it wont hold humidity as well as coco stuff but whatever, i've had them on it for years and they eat, poop and do snake things plus most of all, they seem to enjoy the stuff a lot more and spend more time out and about at night digging and playing around.

And i can say i have never found any rusty safety pins in it. i have found some bigger chunks in it though but nothing foreign like twine, plastic or like i mentioned the rusty safety pin.

Order a bale of it and try it. It's only like $4.99 plus like $7 shipping. See how it works for you and how the snakes like it. Gina and Louie were terrified of ReptiChips when i first used it on them. They would sit on hides and shelves and treat it like hot lava lol. They love their aspen though and took to it like fish in water.

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Yep! Just ordered a bag to try out. Also got two jumbo RBI hides for $18.99 each from reptilesupplyco.com. Not bad. $5 cheaper per hide than the RBI website


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The company that makes those shavings have a location in Yakima, WA. You could call and find out if some feedstores in the area sell it to horse owners..
Would save you on shipping :)

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Yep! Just ordered a bag to try out. Also got two jumbo RBI hides for $18.99 each from reptilesupplyco.com. Not bad. $5 cheaper per hide than the RBI website


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Nice. Are they the same hides though? I mean the offset door and stuff? If so, thats a good deal.

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The company that makes those shavings have a location in Yakima, WA. You could call and find out if some feedstores in the area sell it to horse owners..
Would save you on shipping :)

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Yeah thats where Bean Farm used to get their supply from but Doug had to drive all the way to Yakima with a trailer and fill it up and then drive back. It just got to be more work than it was worth which is why Bean Farm quit selling it.

I honestly cant complain as Mills sells it for $4.99 a bale and only $7 shipping. Plus it's easy as they just ship it to my door and it's actually packaged really well in a big cardboard box so it doesnt get wet which is what i was originally worried about.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Nice. Are they the same hides though? I mean the offset door and stuff? If so, thats a good deal.

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Yep, looks to be the exact same hides.
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And Caesar is no longer antisocial so I guess he should be shedding in a few days lol. He was out saying 'hi' to me earlier and now he is sleeping up on the shelf. He is such a good boy...until he pushes lol.
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Well this is a first. Caesar never ceases to amaze me. I knew he was going into shed but figured i had a few days so i picked dinner up for everyone. Well Caesar came flying out of his hide when he smelled dinner with half his head shed lol. He wasnt about to pass up dinner simply because of a shed. Guess he decided he could take a break and grab a quick snack. I've had snakes eat in blue but never one pause in the middle of a shed to grab dinner lol.
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