Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

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Just have heard varying opinions on whether the higher fat content of gp can lead to fat snakes in the long run. I think with retics metabolism it shouldn't be a huge issue though. Phyllis is already cruising her cage at day four after eating 600grams of rat haha. She's been enjoying a nice cruise in either the yard or the snake room for an hour ish every other day or so and that seems to make her happy


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Ah. Yeah I vary it. Caesar gets rats or guinea pigs. Rats don't keep him nearly as quiet for as long though. And I leave his door open when I'm watching tv or playing PS4 so he lowers himself to the floor and wanders around when he wants. I still have to snake proof a couple things in the room so I cant really just let him wander anywhere in the room yet.

Hey jmcrook, the little ones (or I guess now the not so little ones :laughing:) are looking good and happy! Question for you - have you ever had any issues with the T8 and the RHP when Phyllis was still in there in terms of the height, and how close she was to it due to her size? And by that, I mean Phyllis having extended contact with the RHP.

Also, what do you keep your snake room/area temps at? Our setups are almost identical and I want to see how your T8 holds up with the RHP - we keep the house between 72 and 74, usually closer to 74. Haven't had any issues with smaller cages, but the T8 is curing right now and I'll only be using the RHP as of now (unless there ends up being any ambient/cool end issues). I'm just not sure if it is enough alone with the jump in cage size. Thanks for your help my man!

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Hey jmcrook, the little ones (or I guess now the not so little ones :laughing:) are looking good and happy! Question for you - have you ever had any issues with the T8 and the RHP when Phyllis was still in there in terms of the height, and how close she was to it due to her size? And by that, I mean Phyllis having extended contact with the RHP.

Also, what do you keep your snake room/area temps at? Our setups are almost identical and I want to see how your T8 holds up with the RHP - we keep the house between 72 and 74, usually closer to 74. Haven't had any issues with smaller cages, but the T8 is curing right now and I'll only be using the RHP as of now (unless there ends up being any ambient/cool end issues). I'm just not sure if it is enough alone with the jump in cage size. Thanks for your help my man!

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Definitely not so little anymore! Pretty sure Phyllis is trying to break whatever the record could for world's largest super dwarf. I wouldn't be surprised if she hits 10'
I haven't had any issues with the RHP in either of the T8s. My room also stays in the low to mid 70*range, I have the herpstat probes threaded through the power cord hole for the heat panels hanging just barely behind them and dangle the probe about halfway down the cage height and set at 87*. Gives a hotspot around 88-90* and keeps cool side around 79-81*.
As far as extended exposure to the hotspot, Phyllis is very proactive about self regulating her temps, pushes any/everything out of her way to get to the area she wants haha! She really only hangs out under the panel after eating for the first night and part of the next day usually. In her T25 she's been sleeping on the shelf under the panel after meals.
Gerald is in her T8 now with a new sky hide and he basically just stays in there aside from when he comes out to destroy everything every night. I think he's demanding larger rats lol. Mediums are barely cutting it for him now. But yeah, he rarely uses the hide under the RHP. Might drop the temp a degree or two and see if that changes.


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Fresh shed from Phyllis today. Was in shed for over a week and at 6-7 weeks since her last shed cycle. Longest she's gone since I've had her. Full shed measured a little over 10'! Of course there was significant stretch but it impressed me nonetheless.
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Dang she is filling out. Looks good.

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Beautiful! Damn it's 55* today and rained like 7" in the last 2 days.

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Hey Jmcrook,

Did you use the supplied bolts from the Pro-Products rhps to attach them to your AP cages? Or were you able to find some screws that would attach them without going through the top of cage for ease of stacking purposes? Looks like your cages are flush, and I'm trying to not have to put holes through the top of the cage with the supplied bolts if I don't have to. Thanks man!

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Hey Jmcrook,

Did you use the supplied bolts from the Pro-Products rhps to attach them to your AP cages? Or were you able to find some screws that would attach them without going through the top of cage for ease of stacking purposes? Looks like your cages are flush, and I'm trying to not have to put holes through the top of the cage with the supplied bolts if I don't have to. Thanks man!

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I actually had all three of my Pro-Heat panels drop shipped to AP and had them install them. Not sure if they use the same bolts or not. I can't remember on my T25 but I know the two T8s have one hole in the ceiling of the cage with a bolt in it. I believe they router a long channel with one hole to feed the bolts through, lightly tighten the first, then slide the panel into place and feed the second bolt in through the ceiling and tighten them. Hard to describe without a visual component haha, and I'm only describing what I think it is that they do to install the panels. Hope this is helpful!

Significant update on Phyllis. A few weeks ago she smashed her lip in striking at her rat. Didn't think much of it as she's done that before and I corrected itself in a week or so. She then went into shed, lip got a little better but still a tad swollen and hadn't been pushing. Wasn't too concerned until I saw a little pus spot on her gums when she ate the other day. Looked in her mouth and there was definitely some cheesy matter so I prepared a few q-tips with betadine and went to clean it up. Dug out a big chunk of gunk and inside of it were two teeth! Either she broke them when she dented her lip in or they've been broken for a wand may have been the source of her persistent pushing. Either way, going to check on her gums daily with a light betadine clean up to make sure it heals well. She's back on newspaper until her face is back to normal. Surprisingly wasn't the hardest patient to deal with, I expected much more of a fight. She seemed to noticeably calm down when she realized i was trying to get that crud out of her mouth.
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Disgusting mouth crud
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One of two teeth lodged in the crud
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Dang, that sucks. I've always been worried about my snakes slamming the litter dam or cage when eating too. Thats why i hang the stuff in the center of the cage with my BBQ tongs lol.

Caesar has really mellowed on food. He hasent eaten in almost 2 weeks and he isnt pushing at all except at night when he wants the door slid open so he can hang out lol. Luckily he only pushes on one spot and thats the center brace where the door gap is. I think he smells the fresh air and since he wants to hang out outside, he pushes right there. I open the door and rub his body and he comes over to the open door and lays down next to me. Never seen a snake act like a dog haha.

Hopefully Phyllis gets better without having the stress and cash of going to the vet. Good luck man.

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Dang, that sucks. I've always been worried about my snakes slamming the litter dam or cage when eating too. Thats why i hang the stuff in the center of the cage with my BBQ tongs lol.

Caesar has really mellowed on food. He hasent eaten in almost 2 weeks and he isnt pushing at all except at night when he wants the door slid open so he can hang out lol. Luckily he only pushes on one spot and thats the center brace where the door gap is. I think he smells the fresh air and since he wants to hang out outside, he pushes right there. I open the door and rub his body and he comes over to the open door and lays down next to me. Never seen a snake act like a dog haha.

Hopefully Phyllis gets better without having the stress and cash of going to the vet. Good luck man.

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Thanks dude! I'm totally prepared to take her to the vet if it doesn't get better but yeah, wanted to save the stress on her part. I'll shell out the cash if needed but my friend that's bred SD for some time said to just clean the gunk out, keep her fed, and she should be fine. Got the same vibe from past discussions on the retic nation page.
Yeah her rat was hanging from the rings in the left center of the cage and she missed and hit the left wall. She's too quick to be able to get it into the actual center of the cage haha.
Why do they love to push at that center post of the AP cages?! Phyllis and Gerald both do that!
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Haha, yeah like i said, Caesar has mellowed on food a lot. He isnt all psycho anymore but he will still eat.

I think they push the center because theres that air gap between the 2 sliding doors so they sense and feel the air flow there and so try and push there.

I really think Caesar is close to being done with his 'growing' per say. Like i mentioned, hes' mellowed on food, filled out and now is a lounger lol.

This freak show of an animal... two weeks ago pulled two broken teeth out of her face. Healed up just fine. Last night hits her rat so hard she snagged a tooth through her lip, in the same spot. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e034ac747b.jpg
Let it go overnight to see if she could fix it on her own. Nope... had to hold her down and unhook it just now. Man was she thrilled about that. Looking back to normal. How about we scale back on the freight train feeding response, eh? Lol
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One of our yearling tics just did this a few weeks ago, so annoying and I feel bad for them all at the same time! She shed and the mark on her lip is gone thank goodness.
Glad you got her unstuck!
Calm down girl, you'll get the rat! haah silly tics

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Lol as you wish Steve!
Nothing real exciting to update aside from the fact that her broken teeth from a month ago healed up just fine with no need to see the vet. She just shed last week and gave me 10' of perfect shed.
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She doesn't seem to be putting on length nearly a much anymore but my god... I swear she puts on more weight everyday. She's close to doubled her weight in the last 5-6 months and weighs every bit of 13lbs or more now. Close to the thickness of my forearm
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Not the best lighting in this pic but more to give a sense of scale, that tub is a 100qt hefty tub from lowes, about 35-36" long. She's a beast, close to 9'.
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Terrible reflection on the glass doors but just wanted to show that she somehow still fits in a reptile basics xl hide. Been camped out in her cool side hide for 4 days after her last meal and still hasn't peed. Probably opening the flood gates as we speak just to spite this post hahah.
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Lol i think Caesar quit growing. He hasnt shed in a while now.

And dang, Phyllis is getting big. She eats double the size of Caesar now haha. You might need to start looking into piglets from Monster Feeders or rabbits.

Tried to see if the beast would go past 7 days without eating... she's been raising absolute hell for two days almost nonstop starting at about day 5. Was going to let her keep going til day ten but the top of her face started swelling a bit from pushing. Guess she's getting another 3xl rat on a 7 day schedule. I don't know how other people push them back to every two weeks by their second birthday. Phyllis is having none of it. I just don't want her to get fat and sluggish and live a shortened lifespan. Anywho, here she is wrapped around a 560gram rat


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Tried to see if the beast would go past 7 days without eating... she's been raising absolute hell for two days almost nonstop starting at about day 5. Was going to let her keep going til day ten but the top of her face started swelling a bit from pushing. Guess she's getting another 3xl rat on a 7 day schedule. I don't know how other people push them back to every two weeks by their second birthday. Phyllis is having none of it. I just don't want her to get fat and sluggish and live a shortened lifespan. Anywho, here she is wrapped around a 560gram rat


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Haha you ans me both brutha!! I dont know people push males back to 2 -3 weeks. Caesar destroyed his face this when i was asleep i guess as he was quiet in his hide during the day. I noticed one side of his face was swollen and his pits are all torn up. I gave him an XL guinea pig and it quieted him down but he did almost tag me in the process. I tripped backwards over a chair while jumping back as he flipped around from the closed door to the open door and shot out of it like a freakin bullet with mouth open like his baby days. I didnt drop the guinea pig though. Held that sucker in the tongs lol. But anyways, yeah i dont know how people go so long inbetween feedings. I thought i had Caesar set on almost 2 weeks but like i said, i guess he was destroying his face during the night. Back to every 7-10 days again /sigh.

Face it, we got sold pig retics haha.

I'm also thinking that she could be fine on smaller meals more frequently. She seems to process a rat of almost any size in about 5 days. Xl, 3xl, whatever. It's fully digested in 5 days. Kinda wish I had ordered xl or 2xl this last feeder order now. Those guinea pigs might be too big actually. I'm sure she could handle them but I don't know that she needs anything that big. Here she is this morning wearing her hide like a hat. 3xl leaves a bigger lump than expected, but it will be gone in a day or two
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I'm also thinking that she could be fine on smaller meals more frequently. She seems to process a rat of almost any size in about 5 days. Xl, 3xl, whatever. It's fully digested in 5 days. Kinda wish I had ordered xl or 2xl this last feeder order now. Those guinea pigs might be too big actually. I'm sure she could handle them but I don't know that she needs anything that big. Here she is this morning wearing her hide like a hat. 3xl leaves a bigger lump than expected, but it will be gone in a day or two
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Pretty much what i do. Caesar was easily eating 2XL guinea pigs but within about the same time period as a XL guinea pig, the lumps were gone. I have dropped Caesar down to jumbo rats or XL guinea pigs and just moved it up to every 7-10 days. Smaller meals on a little faster time frame. So far its been 4 days on the XL guinea pig and Caesar is quiet and just chilling in his cool hide.

Is that a jumbo RB hide? If so, Phyllis is HUGE. Caesar still packs himself into half a jumbo hide lol.

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Pretty much what i do. Caesar was easily eating 2XL guinea pigs but within about the same time period as a XL guinea pig, the lumps were gone. I have dropped Caesar down to jumbo rats or XL guinea pigs and just moved it up to every 7-10 days. Smaller meals on a little faster time frame. So far its been 4 days on the XL guinea pig and Caesar is quiet and just chilling in his cool hide.

Is that a jumbo RB hide? If so, Phyllis is HUGE. Caesar still packs himself into half a jumbo hide lol.

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Lol nah that's the xl RB hide. Need to order some jumbo hides soon. She's still huge though https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8a81a5f813.jpg
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Well, psycho McPushface apparently cannot go more than 6-7 days without destroying her face and everything in her cage.
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So tonight she took her first 4xl guinea pig. 725 grams. We'll see if she goes longer than a week on this. I have a sneaking suspicion that she'll go into shed soon so that could throw off my observations/trial period on her biggest meal. Took it down no problem though.
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Dang that first pic is pretty brutal lol. Does Phyllis use the first 1/3 of her body to stand up with and shove? Caesar does that and its incredible the force he gets behind it. He arches up with the top 1/3 of his body and uses it like a lance to shove into where the air gap is between the 2 doors right at the center brace. his whole 1/3 of the body shakes and shimmies as he applies the force and it rattles all the cage doors in the stack. it's pretty incredible to watch but the damage he does to his face is incredible too lol. he is in shed and ate a XL guinea pig so he is quiet for about 2 weeks haha.

I swear man, we got broken retics haha. I see all these other people with quiet retics and we got the food needy bratty ones hahaha.

And btw Phyllis is HUGE!! She dwarfs Caesar easily or at least the last pic makes it look that way.

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Dang that first pic is pretty brutal lol. Does Phyllis use the first 1/3 of her body to stand up with and shove? Caesar does that and its incredible the force he gets behind it. He arches up with the top 1/3 of his body and uses it like a lance to shove into where the air gap is between the 2 doors right at the center brace. his whole 1/3 of the body shakes and shimmies as he applies the force and it rattles all the cage doors in the stack. it's pretty incredible to watch but the damage he does to his face is incredible too lol. he is in shed and ate a XL guinea pig so he is quiet for about 2 weeks haha.

I swear man, we got broken retics haha. I see all these other people with quiet retics and we got the food needy bratty ones hahaha.

And btw Phyllis is HUGE!! She dwarfs Caesar easily or at least the last pic makes it look that way.

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Yeah dude, braces her face into the center support and then uses at least a third of her body and every ounce of her strength. Whole body shaking and straining against the doors, it's beyond brutal. She's got a swollen left top of her face for about the last week because of it. I love this animal but my god I really wish I knew a way to get her to stop this.
And yeah, she's an absolute monster of a "super dwarf". The perspective in that last pic makes her look a little bigger but she's still huge. The second pic of her eating gives an idea of how big around she is compared to that water bowl. Gotta be about 9' now and somewhere around 15lbs, nearly as thick as a can of beer. I've been tempted to get in touch with Daniel and ask if he held any back from that clutch that got big too. Yodawagon, who hasn't been on here in forever has, or at least had at one point, one of Phyllis's clutch mates and it was getting big quick last he mentioned it.


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Yeah dude, braces her face into the center support and then uses at least a third of her body and every ounce of her strength. Whole body shaking and straining against the doors, it's beyond brutal. She's got a swollen left top of her face for about the last week because of it. I love this animal but my god I really wish I knew a way to get her to stop this.
And yeah, she's an absolute monster of a "super dwarf". The perspective in that last pic makes her look a little bigger but she's still huge. The second pic of her eating gives an idea of how big around she is compared to that water bowl. Gotta be about 9' now and somewhere around 15lbs, nearly as thick as a can of beer. I've been tempted to get in touch with Daniel and ask if he held any back from that clutch that got big too. Yodawagon, who hasn't been on here in forever has, or at least had at one point, one of Phyllis's clutch mates and it was getting big quick last he mentioned it.


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Haha exactly what Caesar does too. And yeah, Caesar's face has gone down. I think the swelling combined with him going into shed made it look even worse. But when i dragged Caesar out of his hide despite his disapproval of it with the stink eye he gave me, his face is all good now.

And i too wish I could get Caesar to quit pushing all together. He isnt nearly as bad as when he was a baby but still if not fed within 10-12 days, he will start pushing pretty good.

Phyllis is definitely bigger. Caesar is probably about as thick as my wrist and i dont have huge wrists.

Lol you should ask Daniel. Look on the retic FB pages, i think on the breeders and sellers one. I saw a guy who was selling pure Kalatoa and they were like 6 ft long and a couple years old if i remember correctly. Regardless, they were pretty darn small. You probably just got the monster super dwarf like you said haha.

And i was using the water bowl as a reference to her size as Caesar has the same one and he looks about 2/3 the thickness of Phyllis but then again, he's just over 7 ft where as Phyllis is 9 ft lol.

You know i'm leaning more and more towards either an ultra ivory SD retic or a moonglow boa lol. I love the BCC stuff but i just cant get over my love of whitish snakes haha.

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Lol you should ask Daniel. Look on the retic FB pages, i think on the breeders and sellers one. I saw a guy who was selling pure Kalatoa and they were like 6 ft long and a couple years old if i remember correctly. Regardless, they were pretty darn small. You probably just got the monster super dwarf like you said haha.

And i was using the water bowl as a reference to her size as Caesar has the same one and he looks about 2/3 the thickness of Phyllis but then again, he's just over 7 ft where as Phyllis is 9 ft.

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Sent Daniel a text, he confirmed that yes indeed Phyllis is 100% SD. Said he has breeder size females anywhere from ~6' to 9' give or take and that Phyllis isn't very far off at all in that range of sizes. Also said he wants her back if I ever were to sell her hahah! He's trying to get his hands on more pure blood SD stuff in his facility.


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Lol you should ask Daniel. Look on the retic FB pages, i think on the breeders and sellers one. I saw a guy who was selling pure Kalatoa and they were like 6 ft long and a couple years old if i remember correctly. Regardless, they were pretty darn small. You probably just got the monster super dwarf like you said haha.

And i was using the water bowl as a reference to her size as Caesar has the same one and he looks about 2/3 the thickness of Phyllis but then again, he's just over 7 ft where as Phyllis is 9 ft.

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Sent Daniel a text, he confirmed that yes indeed Phyllis is 100% SD. Said he has breeder size females anywhere from ~6' to 9' give or take and that Phyllis isn't very far off at all in that range of sizes. Also said he wants her back if I ever were to sell her hahah! He's trying to get his hands on more pure blood SD stuff in his facility.


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Thanks! Nope, she's a tad flighty when getting her out of the cage but settles right down. She is very food driven, has a feeding response that rivals any other living thing on earth, but I started hook training her from day one and she's never struck at me once I get a hook on her. Peed on me numerous times but no bites haha!

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Mine is the worst about peeing and pooing on me.....

We have one dwarf baby left, she was in a tub for the first year+ but then I moved her into a plexi front opening enclosure thinking she'd like it and she started pushing like crazy. I even upped her food size but she pushed and pushed causing swelling on the gum. I moved her back into a tub and she's stopped pushing. Sometimes it's the cage and not food that drives it. Some retics get that little breath of a crack of air and just go nuts. Have you possibly tried covering the bottom 1/3 or 1/2 of the glass with some paper just to see if that reduces it at all? Just a thought. It does sound like yours is a food pusher, I just wanted to mention other possible factors to see if the pushing can in any way be eliminated. I hate seeing their beautiful faces getting all smashed up, silly snakes! Don't hurt the pretty!

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We have one dwarf baby left, she was in a tub for the first year+ but then I moved her into a plexi front opening enclosure thinking she'd like it and she started pushing like crazy. I even upped her food size but she pushed and pushed causing swelling on the gum. I moved her back into a tub and she's stopped pushing. Sometimes it's the cage and not food that drives it. Some retics get that little breath of a crack of air and just go nuts. Have you possibly tried covering the bottom 1/3 or 1/2 of the glass with some paper just to see if that reduces it at all? Just a thought. It does sound like yours is a food pusher, I just wanted to mention other possible factors to see if the pushing can in any way be eliminated. I hate seeing their beautiful faces getting all smashed up, silly snakes! Don't hurt the pretty!

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That really could be a good solution. She had never pushed until I took the divider out of her T8 last September/October of 2016. She had been in the side with door on the inner track and didn't have as much of an air gap as the other side. I'll try covering the front and see if that helps. She'll still have that small gap of fresh air between the doors at the center so we'll see how it goes.


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Phyllis is currently in shed right after having eaten her first guinea pig and is so fat and miserable looking right now... Just wanted to share hah
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This picture more accurately represents how miserable this animal is when she's in shed lol
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Well, psycho McPushface apparently cannot go more than 6-7 days without destroying her face and everything in her cage.
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So tonight she took her first 4xl guinea pig. 725 grams. We'll see if she goes longer than a week on this. I have a sneaking suspicion that she'll go into shed soon so that could throw off my observations/trial period on her biggest meal. Took it down no problem though.
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Now go to sleep for at least a week and quit smashing your face!


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Wow that face.. [emoji22]. Gene has become a pusher, he makes it to day 5 before he starts to push at the bottom of his enclosure. Weird because with his nose the floor his body is a good 7" up and just shakes with force. I'll tap him with the paper towel roll and crack the door. He stops and rests his head. But it's strictly a food push.

I'd love for us all to take a picture of our snakes again against a common product for size comparisons. Gene just hit 8', my apartmwnt kitchen is exactly 8' and his tail still hit the carpet. He has gained substantial girth too. Last time I weighed him he was at 11.1 lbs.

On a different note Gene pissed on yet another thermometer and broke it. So I bought a small one today and put a small amount of Velcro on it to stick it to his skyhide. I am not one to put tape on or in his enclosure but he can't reach this so I think we'll be ok. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...12fa400481.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...538abb97cf.jpg

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Wow that face.. [emoji22]. Gene has become a pusher, he makes it to day 5 before he starts to push at the bottom of his enclosure. Weird because with his nose the floor his body is a good 7" up and just shakes with force. I'll tap him with the paper towel roll and crack the door. He stops and rests his head. But it's strictly a food push.

I'd love for us all to take a picture of our snakes again against a common product for size comparisons. Gene just hit 8', my apartmwnt kitchen is exactly 8' and his tail still hit the carpet. He has gained substantial girth too. Last time I weighed him he was at 11.1 lbs.

On a different note Gene pissed on yet another thermometer and broke it. So I bought a small one today and put a small amount of Velcro on it to stick it to his skyhide. I am not one to put tape on or in his enclosure but he can't reach this so I think we'll be ok. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...12fa400481.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...538abb97cf.jpg

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Sounds exactly like how Phyllis pushes. It's really almost disturbing at times to see the force she puts into it .
I think I've got pics of Phyllis next to or under an RBI xl hide on here. She just got her jumbo hides the other day and is sleeping next to them rather than in them... 🤷
I'm not one for tape in a cage either but 3M makes some seriously intense Velcro with adhesive backing that I can barely peel of the cage walls, and I've got finger nails and putty knives to work with hah! They've held up to high humidity and warm temps in all my cages for over a year and a half with absolutely zero issue. I've got them installed just above the cage floor or shelf in Phyllis's cage and have yet to have one pissed on. I keep the unit on the cool side and have the probes fed through a hole drilled in the vents and keep the probed end on the warm side.


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Just had to say that this is one of my favorite threads on this site. Phyllis is awesome.

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Just had to say that this is one of my favorite threads on this site. Phyllis is awesome.

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Thanks so much!


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wow! That's probably the most adorable snake I've seen. How awesome. <3 :P

Any update?


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Nah, had to leave for xmas and she was still in shed. I'm sure she shed and pooped and is raising hell until I get back Tuesday. Can't ever be easy planning trips around this animal


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Wow that face.. [emoji22]. Gene has become a pusher, he makes it to day 5 before he starts to push at the bottom of his enclosure. Weird because with his nose the floor his body is a good 7" up and just shakes with force. I'll tap him with the paper towel roll and crack the door. He stops and rests his head. But it's strictly a food push.

I'd love for us all to take a picture of our snakes again against a common product for size comparisons. Gene just hit 8', my apartmwnt kitchen is exactly 8' and his tail still hit the carpet. He has gained substantial girth too. Last time I weighed him he was at 11.1 lbs.

On a different note Gene pissed on yet another thermometer and broke it. So I bought a small one today and put a small amount of Velcro on it to stick it to his skyhide. I am not one to put tape on or in his enclosure but he can't reach this so I think we'll be ok. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...12fa400481.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...538abb97cf.jpg

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Haha welcome to the world of pushing.

And yeah, Caesar does that stand up body shake thing too when he is pushing at the center brace. It shakes so hard that all the cage stack doors rattle like an earthquake.

As for a thermometer, get an Acurite. They are bullet proof. Caesar has pushed his into his water bowl twice and it stopped working but after i took the battery out and let it sit for a couple days to dry out, it worked again haha.

And here is what Caesar does after being 2 days late on dinner because of Christmas...he was not happy.....btw he is quiet in the pic because it was a few hours after his jumbo rat lol.
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Phyllis shed while I was gone and apparently didn't completely lose her mind thankfully. Unfortunately I have to make an unexpected trip across the country for 6 more days now... I don't usually like to feed and immediately leave but Phyllis hasn't eaten in 16 days and will go completely bonkers if I don't feed her. Here's to hoping she doesn't lay in pee for 2-3 days. Anyway here she is
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Just weighed in at 14.5lbs


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She's gotten big ! wow she looks great. I had to go back and look at your pictures of her when she was a baby. How much bigger do you think she will get?

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She's gotten big ! wow she looks great. I had to go back and look at your pictures of her when she was a baby. How much bigger do you think she will get?

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Thanks tiger! I'm guessing she could hit ten feet but her length has slowed down considerably and she has just been packing on mass. She's gained like 7lbs doubling her weight since early august. Only grown like half a foot in that time frame though. Maybe more but she's kinda hard to measure unless she crawls along the wall and I can mark it to measure afterwards


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Phyllis shed while I was gone and apparently didn't completely lose her mind thankfully. Unfortunately I have to make an unexpected trip across the country for 6 more days now... I don't usually like to feed and immediately leave but Phyllis hasn't eaten in 16 days and will go completely bonkers if I don't feed her. Here's to hoping she doesn't lay in pee for 2-3 days. Anyway here she is
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Just weighed in at 14.5lbs


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WOW!
Beautiful!

Wallace is great and not nearly that size.

I'm not real active on the boards, not at all but had some time to check in tonight.

Looking awesome JM!!

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WOW!
Beautiful!

Wallace is great and not nearly that size.

I'm not real active on the boards, not at all but had some time to check in tonight.

Looking awesome JM!!

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Gio returns! Missed seeing your posts around here buddy! Hope you're well!


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Thanks bud!

Doing exceptionally good here!

Very busy but love checking in when I can!

You guys look awesome together!

Dang Phyllis is big. I'm surprised she lasted 16 days with no food. Caesar did what i showed in the pic above after like 12 days lol. And i guess my SD ultra Ivory and moonglow boa projects are on hold until probably middle of next year. I pulled the trigger on a little 6 month old Biak GTP. Probably going to pick it up next week assuming it eats good and stuff.

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Dang Phyllis is big. I'm surprised she lasted 16 days with no food. Caesar did what i showed in the pic above after like 12 days lol. And i guess my SD ultra Ivory and moonglow boa projects are on hold until probably middle of next year. I pulled the trigger on a little 6 month old Biak GTP. Probably going to pick it up next week assuming it eats good and stuff.

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Well she ate a huge guinea pig, went about 4 days and then went into shed for almost two weeks. That's the only way she goes past 7 days without losing her mind.
Congrats on the gtp! That's always been a dream snake of mine. Someday when I'm in a more permanent living situation


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