what kind of BP is this? I am so confused...

Seriously, what is going on with the snakes on the floor with the rats. Thats so wrong it has to be right!

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Seriously, what is going on with the snakes on the floor with the rats. Thats so wrong it has to be right!

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Bwahaha seriously?? Read some of the thread I'm sure it is explained on every page... >_>:gj:

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Originally Posted by echs332000

wow that is the best thing i have ever seen typed on this forum. A lot of people on this forum need to step back and realize how much of a douchebag you really are. People come to this forum to learn and get knowledge. Instead of you being a Adult and giving your advice and being helpful, you prefer to throw out insults and say stuff just so your menions can give you thanks on your threads. Its time to grow up. Stop playing devils advocate. You expect people to be respectful towards you but yet you are just a complete jerk off towards them. All your doing is pushing people away from what a great forum this is.

This post isnt directed towards anyone in particular. Its just what i have observed the short time i have been on this forum

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Originally Posted by creativecorns

Thank you very much. I totally agree that is all I have seen on here. I mean there are a bunch of helpful people but lay off the guy. Dang ! He was just asking a simple question and everyone just jumps on him like a bunch of wild animals :) :banana:
Lani~

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While I appreciate your endorsement of what I wrote earlier, I have to step in again and say that this is SO NOT TRUE. Not to say that we don't have our share of folks who act like they know it all and their way of doing things is the only right way...or that their opinion is the only one that matters. But what would you expect in a group this size? We have literally hundreds of different people participating each and every day. Not all of them are naturally inclined to be nice and diplomatic. :rolleyes: Some folks feel compelled to speak their mind and don't care how others take it. :confuzd:

Should all the tremendous amount of GOOD that goes on here be negated and dismissed because a few people get upset when they see what LOOKS like neglect and abuse of animals? Or when folks get argumentative toward someone who comes looking for advice then dismisses it?

Have you seen how many rescued snakes have been brought back from the brink of death through the tremendous help of folks here? How many pet-store impulse purchases are transformed into ideal environments because of the people here willing to answer the same basic questions over and over again for each and every new person who comes looking for help? Have you seen the community here rally together around someone who has lost an animal or a loved one....or a home??? Did you not see the thousands of dollars raised on simple donations from every-day members here for one who's home was burned to the ground?

If all you...or anyone else sees....are the negative aspects of this site...then I dare to think that's all such a person really wants to see. It's so much easier to spot the negative and get an attitude about it...than it is to savor the good and appreciate it...even when the good outweighs the negative by vast magnitudes.

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Originally Posted by JLC

While I appreciate your endorsement of what I wrote earlier, I have to step in again and say that this is SO NOT TRUE. Not to say that we don't have our share of folks who act like they know it all and their way of doing things is the only right way...or that their opinion is the only one that matters. But what would you expect in a group this size? We have literally hundreds of different people participating each and every day. Not all of them are naturally inclined to be nice and diplomatic. :rolleyes: Some folks feel compelled to speak their mind and don't care how others take it. :confuzd:

Should all the tremendous amount of GOOD that goes on here be negated and dismissed because a few people get upset when they see what LOOKS like neglect and abuse of animals? Or when folks get argumentative toward someone who comes looking for advice then dismisses it?

Have you seen how many rescued snakes have been brought back from the brink of death through the tremendous help of folks here? How many pet-store impulse purchases are transformed into ideal environments because of the people here willing to answer the same basic questions over and over again for each and every new person who comes looking for help? Have you seen the community here rally together around someone who has lost an animal or a loved one....or a home??? Did you not see the thousands of dollars raised on simple donations from every-day members here for one who's home was burned to the ground?

If all you...or anyone else sees....are the negative aspects of this site...then I dare to think that's all such a person really wants to see. It's so much easier to spot the negative and get an attitude about it...than it is to savor the good and appreciate it...even when the good outweighs the negative by vast magnitudes.

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Originally Posted by JLC

While I appreciate your endorsement of what I wrote earlier, I have to step in again and say that this is SO NOT TRUE. Not to say that we don't have our share of folks who act like they know it all and their way of doing things is the only right way...or that their opinion is the only one that matters. But what would you expect in a group this size? We have literally hundreds of different people participating each and every day. Not all of them are naturally inclined to be nice and diplomatic. :rolleyes: Some folks feel compelled to speak their mind and don't care how others take it. :confuzd:

Should all the tremendous amount of GOOD that goes on here be negated and dismissed because a few people get upset when they see what LOOKS like neglect and abuse of animals? Or when folks get argumentative toward someone who comes looking for advice then dismisses it?

Have you seen how many rescued snakes have been brought back from the brink of death through the tremendous help of folks here? How many pet-store impulse purchases are transformed into ideal environments because of the people here willing to answer the same basic questions over and over again for each and every new person who comes looking for help? Have you seen the community here rally together around someone who has lost an animal or a loved one....or a home??? Did you not see the thousands of dollars raised on simple donations from every-day members here for one who's home was burned to the ground?

If all you...or anyone else sees....are the negative aspects of this site...then I dare to think that's all such a person really wants to see. It's so much easier to spot the negative and get an attitude about it...than it is to savor the good and appreciate it...even when the good outweighs the negative by vast magnitudes.

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while i do understand and agree with what you have said, you have to realize that its human nature to dwell on the bad things. No matter how good a persons post is, if he has something ignorant or disrespectful in their post, people are going to remember that portion of it. If people have a problem answering the same questions over and over, then why are they on a forum like this. People are quick to forget that they started at the bottom just like everyone else. They are quick to forget that at one point they didnt know a thing about snakes. SOME people on here expect people to be instant experts on keeping snakes.

I think the problem is this. A lot of people are bored out of their mind. They have no lives and all they do is sit on this forum and seek out a pissing match. I think SOME of you need to step back and be a little mature about things. If someone asks you a question and you jump on the defensive and start attacking them, then every bit of advice that you have given has been thrown out the window.

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Originally Posted by echs332000

while i do understand and agree with what you have said, you have to realize that its human nature to dwell on the bad things. No matter how good a persons post is, if he has something ignorant or disrespectful in their post, people are going to remember that portion of it. If people have a problem answering the same questions over and over, then why are they on a forum like this. People are quick to forget that they started at the bottom just like everyone else. They are quick to forget that at one point they didnt know a thing about snakes. SOME people on here expect people to be instant experts on keeping snakes.

I think the problem is this. A lot of people are bored out of their mind. They have no lives and all they do is sit on this forum and seek out a pissing match. I think SOME of you need to step back and be a little mature about things. If someone asks you a question and you jump on the defensive and start attacking them, then every bit of advice that you have given has been thrown out the window.

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Wise words..

So can any one answer the question that was originally posted? I know he looks like a normal but i keep getting different responses every where i go..

Hi,

Best guess would be normal.

The possible het pied marker and the granite speckling are not a gaurantee of anything.

There are non hets with the "het pied marker" and 100% hets without it.

And you would have to breed it out to check to see if the granite was genetic as well as there are a great many that look similar but aren't.

I think - feel free to correct me guys.


dr del

Everyone give it up with this thread. It's a damn Norm PERIOD!

Daniel

Edit: Also if you don't have proper enclosures to feed your snakes in then I suggest do the right thing and give them away.

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Originally Posted by cornball252

Yes they have homes..

They are not eating on they floor, to keep them from getting nasty feeding responses we take the out let them have the inital strike out side their enclosure then place them back in once they start to eat this way it keeps them from having a feeding response in their cage...





Correct he straightened right out no harm done... I also prefer not to get bit... don't know about you guys/ gals...


1.) read above....
2.)we are holding the snake like that to prevent us from being bit... and no he is not sick...
3.)nothing is wrong.... I've seen many ball pythons begin to uncurl and look like this and not just my own....
4.) You have never held an aggressive snake have you?


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Again, not that im for "mistreating" my babies... but first, they are snakes... their food was not throw on the floor either... second, I hand feed all of my snakes....and third my mom and fiance already do that... :rolleye2:


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Also thanks for all the input guys/gals! I really appreciate it.
andI know some of these pictures look "bad" but they aren't trust me....
I would never hurt any of my snakes. None of my snakes have ever been sick.
Quick question for any one who thought we were holding that bp in a "mean" or "silly" way...

how would you hold this snake??
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/PB060235.jpg

Getting bit is getting bit... It's unpleasant and I'd rather not get bit by anything with teeth...

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Also that's not a Ball it's a Burm.

Daniel

[QUOTE=cornball252;1135565]Once again I do my methods which work for me. you do yours.
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Its not about what methods work for you. It should be about whats best for the snake.

now back to your ? Its a nice looking normal