Disturbing trend...

Thank you very much to Aleesha and Scott! I'd also like to thank my parents, god and the academy for this award...They love me! They really love me!!

poor sally... she'll never live that one down LOL

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

poor sally... she'll never live that one down LOL

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Nope!!

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Originally Posted by brainman1000

I'll start by admiting that I am new to snake keeping, so I hardly consider myself an "expert" at snake keeping. However, that doesn't mean that I am not learning and that I shouldn't be able to share my learning experiences with others who are learning as well. That doesn't mean that I am proclaiming myself to be an expert, but I am just sharing what I have learned with others. Some shared information may be regurgitated and some may be from first hand experience. I don't see any problem with regurgitating information as long as it is correct.

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this is pretty much what most of us first timers or first year bp owners would say.

Learning by experience and learning by the books are two different things. both are very useful and both are critical for being a herp owner.
It would really bother me to see someone who feels their posts are more valuable than others because they have 5 years experiance rather than 5 months yet information was the same.(i'll pack my bags and head on out)

as this fourm grows larger its many new snake owners who sign on in. the admins do a wonderful job of correcting any not so right info being sent out and as all those long time herp owners post wonderful insight and knowledge for the correct way to go about caring for snakes, the good stuff will be out there. lets not all worry. PLENTY of posts to correct any wrong or misleading info.

This comes to you form ERICA:
Frist time snake owner
1.1.O
post regularly
has in the past and will always have...
MILLIONS of questions about BPs!
Wish I would have gotten to this sooner..I feel like now my post is sooooo
yesterday! haha

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

It depends, if you already have the facts on these people... it's an easy choice, but if you don't know their back grounds.... then?

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....then you simply ask them about their background.

Ball-pythons.net is full of good people that know their stuff....all someone would have to do is hang around for a little bit, and they would find that out for themselves ;)

daniel, would you pleeeeease stop making this so simple! man, here we are attempting to complicate the issue and you come along with your simple answers and mess up the whole thread! :P

LOL

Your Killing me on here.
Everyone is so quick to jump and defend they do not read the post.

Elevatethis,
The key word is WROTE the book not read from it.
Read my post again, one more time and see if then you get what I am saying.
I am NOT saying oh someone w/ the complete ball python book reading from it and giving advice is considering themselves an expert and that is a bad thing. I AM saying some on here having been a newbie not long ago and now are giving out advice like they have the knowledge and experience of the person who wrote that book. Not giving out advice from that book, that would not be a bad thing to quote from that book. Get what I was saying now?
Daniel1983's example was a great one. The mere fact that I or anyone else at THIS time has only one bp or anything else for that matter doesn't mean we don't know or our advice wouldn't be good. If folks come on here and only take advice from someone based on the number of animals ones own or cause they have a website and breed then they may very well be doing themselves a grave injustice, don't ya think?
So let me ask you are you saying that someone only owning one bp would not be a good person to ask but yet someone with a long collection list or because they are a "breeder" would be the "expert" or better person to get advice from, please tell me your not.

Anyway, props jglass38 for starting this thread because it has been a great thread and hopefully if some of the newer people read it then what I set out to get across as well as jglass and others, then they will get the message.

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Originally Posted by jotay

Read my post again, one more time and see if then you get one I am saying.

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i understood one thing! do i win a prize??? :carrot:










just joking... i couldn't resist :P

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Originally Posted by jotay

I AM saying some on here having been a newbie not long ago and now are giving out advice like they have the knowledge and experience of the person who wrote that book. Not giving out advice from that book, that would not be a bad thing to quote from that book. Get what I was saying now?

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But some newbies to ball-pythons.net are not newbies to reptiles. That must also be a consideration.

However, I do think that I get your point.

From what I get...your perspective is kinda similar to...If a person wrote an paper on an unfamiliar topic based on information provided by others, but never gives the names and background of their sources. The writer would be writing based off of other people's knowledge and not their own. Does that make them wrong? No, but the fact they do not recognize the people that they gained that knowledge from is wrong and leaves the writer looking uncredible and the reader unsure of the truth in the writing.

Wow...i think that sounds right ;)

It really would not hurt for people to say...."I read this in "The Complete Ball Python"...." or "8 Ball Python's website says this is a good way to do things..." especially if they are basing their advice on reading instead of experience.


Personally, I always try to include the words "From my experience..." or link to a website(or other thread) if I have never had that experience. Sometimes I slip up and forget to 'reference' but at least I try ;) IMHO...that is good practice and as far as I am concerned good 'forum' manners.

Ding Ding Ding.... Recycling Goddess is the Winner:)
Sorry I so suck at typing and I don't edit well :) Glad you caught that, thanks.

Ahhh... Daniel1983, I have to admit I really enjoy your posts.:)
Guess what I was trying to say is -example- I am new on here, I ask questions and hang around for a while. Then all of a sudden I start throwing out advice like I am the end all and be all of ball python knowledge, when not to long ago I was diggin in the dark asking questions. And then when others post ways that may be different than mine I try and invalidate them to validate myself. Even tho there is several ways to do certain things. And to top it off, come off like I am an expert.- end of example-

I love your forum manners Daniel!