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  • 01-26-2015, 05:06 PM
    Zincubus
    Honest opinions on feeding.
    Ah well , alls well that ends well .

    I've recently noticed a few other threads and posts on the same issue and whilst they have supported live feeding they have emphasised the need to observe proceedings carefully and don't just leave the rodent in and leave them to it . So that's some progress .

    Other than that I'll just have to learn to keep my honest opinions to myself , I guess .
    Duly noted .
  • 01-26-2015, 05:12 PM
    Reinz
    I believe that part of Zinc's deal whether he will admit it or not is that he wants to be detached from the kill, the death at hand.

    When you feed F/T, your mind tells you that you are feeding "food". It's not live, so it's not bad, as if it is not even an animal. But SOMEONE had to kill that rat!

    I don't enjoy feeding live. My snake is 12 yrs old. Thus set in her ways. She refuses F/K. She is not going to change.

    I hate observing the kill. The look on the rats face. It WAS so cute crawling around just seconds ago.

    But guess what, nature, the animal kingdom is a slaughterhouse. Why do you think they call it a food chain. If you have spent time in the woods, I mean really spent time, animals are horrific to each other. Or I'm sure you've seen the nature shows.

    So when I feed live, I know that it is nature's way. That way I do not let it upset me.

    And of course, I monitor the kill and frequently peek in on the ingestion process.
  • 01-26-2015, 05:12 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Ah well , alls well that ends well .
    I'll just have to learn to keep my honest opinions to myself , I guess .
    Duly noted .

    You shouldnt even call it your opinion when you have no experiance with other options.
    Dont go away mad.........
  • 01-26-2015, 05:16 PM
    Zincubus
    Honest opinions on feeding.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    I believe that part of Zinc's deal whether he will admit it or not is that he wants to be detached from the kill, the death at hand.

    When you feed F/T, your mind tells you that you are feeding "food". It's not live, so it's not bad, as if it is not even an animal. But SOMEONE had to kill that rat!

    I don't enjoy feeding live. My snake is 12 yrs old. Thus set in her ways. She refuses F/K. She is not going to change.

    I hate observing the kill. The look on the rats face. It WAS so cute crawling around just seconds ago.

    But guess what, nature, the animal kingdom is a slaughterhouse. Why do you think they call it a food chain. If you have spent time in the woods, I mean really spent time, animals are horrific to each other. Or I'm sure you've seen the nature shows.

    So when I feed live, I know that it is nature's way. That way I do not let it upset me.

    And of course, I monitor the kill and frequently peek in on the ingestion process.

    Yes of course you have a valid point / I've already admitted that I simply couldn't feed a living creature to one of my snakes but that would still be the case even if there were ZERO risks to my snakes ..
  • 01-26-2015, 05:20 PM
    DVirginiana
    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    But guess what, nature, the animal kingdom is a slaughterhouse. Why do you think they call it a food chain. If you have spent time in the woods, I mean really spent time, animals are horrific to each other. Or I'm sure you've seen the nature shows.

    So when I feed live, I know that it is nature's way. That way I do not let it upset me.

    And of course, I monitor the kill and frequently peek in on the ingestion process.

    Maybe it comes from growing up in the middle of nowhere with a family that used to raise food animals, but seeing the kill has never bothered me.
    Even so some of my family that own snakes (colubrids) can't stomach the idea of feeding live. I see how it can be really disturbing for some people though.
  • 01-26-2015, 05:24 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    You shouldnt even call it your opinion when you have no experiance with other options.
    Dont go away mad.........

    It's fine , I'm not angry or anything .. I understand that live feeding is accepted as the norm in the USA .. We're just programmed differently over here .

    I don't take kindly to being called a troll or ignorant though .

    I have mentioned elsewhere that I suffer from Aspergers and regularly misread a sentence or even misunderstand something . I also hate being slighted and tend to react badly ..

    Apologies to anyone I may have annoyed unknowingly .
  • 01-26-2015, 05:32 PM
    tbowman
    I am interested in hearing your opinions on this subject when it comes to feeding the larger snakes. Surely one would think the risk would go up quite a bit when the prey in question is an adult bunny? I would think it would make things quite a bit riskier for the keeper too.
  • 01-26-2015, 05:53 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tbowman View Post
    I am interested in hearing your opinions on this subject when it comes to feeding the larger snakes. Surely one would think the risk would go up quite a bit when the prey in question is an adult bunny? I would think it would make things quite a bit riskier for the keeper too.


    Interesting take on the topic.

    I'd be more wary of an adult rat than a rabbit but someone will soon shed some light on the situation , hopefully.
  • 01-26-2015, 06:00 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    It's fine , I'm not angry or anything .. I understand that live feeding is accepted as the norm in the USA .. We're just programmed differently over here .

    I don't take kindly to being called a troll or ignorant though .

    I have mentioned elsewhere that I suffer from Aspergers and regularly misread a sentence or even misunderstand something . I also hate being slighted and tend to react badly ..

    Apologies to anyone I may have annoyed unknowingly .

    Maybe you need to read the definition of ignorant. Not knowing is one thing and stupid is another.
    As far as your other problems, its your choice to post on a public forum.
    I am not going to sugar coat anything with anyone here.
    Never have and never will.
  • 01-26-2015, 06:01 PM
    DVirginiana
    My parents used to raise rabbits when I was younger. They have the potential to be more dangerous to a keeper than a rat, but if bred properly should react by freezing up, not by getting aggressive.
    I imagine the danger to the snake would stay about the same if not less (since an 18 ft burm is proportionally bigger compared to a rabbit than a BP is compared to a rat), but that's pure conjecture on my part since I've never worked with any of the larger snakes.
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