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  • 01-23-2014, 06:34 PM
    Thalasuchus
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fishdip View Post
    To me it looked like from the time it constricted to actual death time was 30 sec.

    Which is faster than asphyxiation, and lest we forget the origin of this thread, much faster than being chewed to death by something that doesn't know how to kill efficiently. That mouse might as well have been chewing on a log with no goal in mind but to wear down its teeth, fill its belly and pass time. Like others have said (and I think I already said) it would've taken hours for that BP to die from its horrific injuries.
  • 01-23-2014, 06:48 PM
    patientz3ro
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
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    Originally Posted by Thalasuchus View Post
    Granted that is some gradeschool-level writing but if you click around just a bit you can see it was written by a professor at the University of Louisiana. The info there is kind of sparse (and includes WAY to many "probablies" for my taste)... but that article is also 13 years old.

    I stumbled on a feeding video yesterday that might be what you're looking for: http://youtu.be/FFW5Iat82TI?t=1m51s It's a little graphic, but basically the mouse coughs up blood (and its eye looks bloody too) immediately upon constriction and it dies very quickly afterwards. Someone more knowledgeable than me can interject and explain what happened there, whether it's broken blood vessels, cardiac arrest...

    There's a number of things going on. There are blood vessels rupturing from the pressure throughout its body. That's not only the cause of the bleeding in the eye, it's also the most likely cause of death. If there are vessels rupturing anywhere in the head, it's safe to assume that there are blowouts happening in the vessels of the brain. It's called a hypertensive stroke, and it's lethal.

    As far as the bleeding from the mouth, it's impossible to say what's happening with 100% certainty, but there are a couple of things it's likely to be. There may be ruptures in the pulmonary vasculature, which would cause the lungs to fill with blood. It could also be the result of broken ribs puncturing one or both lungs.

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    Originally Posted by fishdip View Post
    To me it looked like from the time it constricted to actual death time was 30 sec.

    That's way too fast for asphyxiation to kill. Hypertensive stroke can kill that fast, sometimes faster.



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  • 01-23-2014, 06:56 PM
    Yamitaifu
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thalasuchus View Post
    Which is faster than asphyxiation, and lest we forget the origin of this thread, much faster than being chewed to death by something that doesn't know how to kill efficiently. That mouse might as well have been chewing on a log with no goal in mind but to wear down its teeth, fill its belly and pass time. Like others have said (and I think I already said) it would've taken hours for that BP to die from its horrific injuries.

    This about sums it up. Its just as if you were laying on your deathbed. You either have the choice to a quick death, one that the rodent would have: set one by the crushing of blood vessels, crushed bones or if that all fails, asphyxiation. Or you can die a slow, painful death, the death that the snake had. Being slowly torn apart while still alive.

    The mouse will normally (i say normally because there are exceptions) be killed in under a minute. The snake on the other hand will be alive for hours.

    As you have said fishdip, you are a hunter. You know how important it is to get a clean shot at an animal. You want to get a shot that will drop it dead instantly or within seconds. You wouldnt want the animal to suffer, atleast i know i wouldnt. The snake has the ability and has adapted to kill a mouse or rat quickly. A much more humane way to die than being chewed apart


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  • 01-23-2014, 06:56 PM
    fishdip
    Its not seconds tho like some have stated.
  • 01-23-2014, 07:00 PM
    Yamitaifu
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
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    Originally Posted by fishdip View Post
    Its not seconds tho like some have stated.

    Yes it is. 30 seconds as you have said. Asphyxiation was not the cause of death. Lethal injection used on the criminals on death row may not even kill within seconds. There are factors that affect how long it will take to die. Body size, weight, etc


    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy snakes and that's pretty close
  • 01-23-2014, 07:06 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
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    Originally Posted by MasonC2K View Post
    I didn't expect to come back to this thread to find a trollfest.

    Seriously...

    This thread went from "don't leave feeders unattended" to "you can eat a human if you killed him/her"

    And just FYI, canibalims is illegal whether you killed a person or they died of natural causes. I can only imagine... "we didn't have the cash to bury grandma, so we ate her" Lol.

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  • 01-23-2014, 07:27 PM
    fishdip
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
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    Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    Seriously...

    This thread went from "don't leave feeders unattended" to "you can eat a human if you killed him/her"

    And just FYI, canibalims is illegal whether you killed a person or they died of natural causes. I can only imagine... "we didn't have the cash to bury grandma, so we ate her" Lol.

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    What I am a firm believer in you eat what you kill. Lucky for me I have not had to kill some one yet.
  • 01-23-2014, 07:31 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
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    Originally Posted by fishdip View Post
    What I am a firm believer in you eat what you kill. Lucky for me I have not had to kill some one yet.

    Do you even read what you write? Stop trolling this thread and move on.

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  • 01-23-2014, 07:32 PM
    DooLittle
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
    I seem to remember this troll from about a year ago... don't feed it people.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/24/aqe3aquq.jpg
  • 01-23-2014, 07:43 PM
    fishdip
    Re: How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!
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    Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    Do you even read what you write? Stop trolling this thread and move on.

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    I am not trolling crap. If you cant keep up with the side jabs then you need to move along. Its funny when people who have nothing to add to a conversation always post something about trolling.
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