Split from Scaleless BP - Feeding Live Debate

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

Wait guys, let me get this right.......


in the other thread i pointed out that i dont think the scales of a BP with normal scales offer any meaningful protection against rat bites.

and that caused the whole thread to go so offtopic that the mods had to splice it, and it turned into an excrementstorm of such epic proportions that it accumulated 72 replies in just 10 hours? :O :O

how exactly did that happen? :weirdface

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Feels good not to be you anymore doesn't it? :gj:


On the topic of live VS Frozen, most of my ball pythons eat frozen thawed. Some of them don't and never will, they eat live.
Feed your snake what it's willing to eat. It's not rocket science.



And now I'd like to leave you with a little food for thought....

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not: he is a fool - shun him.
He who knows not and knows he knows not: he is ignorant - teach him.
He who knows and knows not that he knows: he is asleep - wake him.
He who knows and knows he knows: he is wise - follow him.

:banana::banana::banana:

It's a good thing I'm not on staff. Were I the ban hammer would have fallen on this immature idiotic attention seeking crybaby kid. Who needs this kind of crap day in and day out? Talk about a waste of bandwidth!

Kid, there are some who just aren't worth the time it takes to inform them of how foolish, stupid, rude, and stupid they are. I say this not for you, because you epitomize that person, but for those who may think that more patience on their part may be of some benefit to you. You're not worth the time already wasted on you.

You're and expert. Great, go show off somewhere else. Start your own site and invite all your other 12 year old youtube experts to come flagellate themselves with you, have a nice big circle jerk, because you are just worthless.

Other than as an example of what NOT to be, I can see no reason for you to be allowed to continue your presence here. Therefore, to me, you no longer exist. I just cleaned the dog crap in my back yard and now I've cleaned the kid crap here. What a loverly day it's going to be.

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Originally Posted by B.O.S Reptiles

Feeding live is a stupid idea for any snakes

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I for one am NOT going to read through 9 pages of this.
I will say you might need to get a couple more years of experience under your belt before you start regurging everything you read on the net.;)
Snakes have been eating live longer than your family has been walking on the face of this earth without our help.

When you get up to a quantity that it is more cost effective to breed your own rodents, then you will appreciate feeding live and not having to toss out anything.


On a side note, as of what I have seen from your posts in the past couple days. Are you really wanting to try and be the "shock jock" of BP.Net??



EDIT AS TO NOT PAD MY POST COUNT:

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Originally Posted by B.O.S Reptiles

So you don't think wild snakes die from rodents?
Why am I still arguing? Lol
You guys are stupid enough to feed live, I should've expected stupid comments.

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Not that I have lost more of my life reading senseless dribble, Are you REALLY trying to get banned from yet another reptile forum?? You might want to take a break and rethink your action and what you type in the open public. I know I made myself crystal clear on how I stand in out FB conversations. I don't feel that I should have to repeat it here.

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Originally Posted by Inarikins

There's no pain at all with CO2 asphyxiation. You start them off slow, they pass out without being scared, then they're dead. You think being stuffed in a dark bag and being swung around and then being slammed into a wall is any less painless?

Fact remains that CO2 is approved by vet associations for being one of the only ways (cervical dislocation being another) to humanely euthanize a rat in the home.

This really isn't a hard concept to grasp, that CO2 is humane, and being slammed into the edge of a table is not.

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Originally Posted by Archimedes

I guess more people than I realized don't practice responsibility in feeding their pets. Who knew.

This thread is making me really sad.

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I guess yet another soul appeases the gods of ignorance.

I stated before that I feed live, and do so 99% of the time. There had been a FEW instances that I have pre-killed a rat for one of my snakes. I'm not going to go through the hassle of buying all the materials needed, and the effort to construct a Co2 chamber, or order a pithing kit for a rare occurrence.

You may not like it, and you may think its "inhumane," but that is simply an opinion of yours. If you don't like following those practices then don't. I'm not holding a gun to your head saying "accept my practices or die" am I?

What is the definition of humane? Without compassion for misery or suffering; cruel. The rat isn't miserable or suffering, it is dying immediately. You may think this practice is barbaric, primitive/unsophisticated, which it is. But it gets the job done quickly.

This is one of those things that many many breeders/keepers do, but don't talk about because it gets negative attention. I feel free to be open about my practices because I know the scientific truth behind it, but don't worry about the squeam factor it instills in people.

Anyone wants to call it irresponsible, that's their prerogative, but it doesn't change the fact that it's not.

On a side note my pet rats just had their first litter. Looks to be about 10 babies, but she just gave birth about 3 hours ago so I'm letter her do her thing. Very cute little babies.

I have a heart for all living things, that's why I do my best to euthanize as quickly as I can. And by quickly I mean immediate.


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Alright then. The brilliant child decided to get cheeky with staff and has earned himself a 30 day time out. No sense letting this little bash-fest go on any longer.

One thing I do feel compelled to point out, though. Some folks...in their great wisdom...suggested in multiple threads and in multiple ways....that this kid should learn to IGNORE negative comments, because any sort of reply just fans the flame. And yet...when it comes to ignoring HIS negative comments, those same folks seem incapable of doing so, and the wild fire rages on. Did he bring it on himself? Certainly. But there are two sources of fuel for those wild fires and he is only one half of the formula.

Just a little food for thought. Let's go back to loving our animals.