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  • 02-08-2013, 05:49 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Forget pepper spray, invest in a glock, that will keep the rapists at bay.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/08/aneju9eg.jpg

    I live in Maryland "the free state" where we're not allowed to legally protect ourselves so.....

    http://www.myswitchblade.com/v/vspfi...TSWNGDAG-3.jpg

    If you're lucky enough to live in a non-fascist state that allows open or concealed carry, please arm yourselves.

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...if they show up at all.
  • 02-08-2013, 05:52 PM
    Rob
    All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    I live in Maryland "the free state" where we're not allowed to legally protect ourselves so

    That sucks :(
  • 02-08-2013, 05:52 PM
    Raven01
    Quote:

    No, it doesn't add or subtract value. I only claimed that males were privileged in our society, which does not invalidate what you say.

    And please do not put words in my mouth about blacks and Hispanics. I said nothing


    "Check your privilege" is nothing but a shaming tactic to silence opposition. So, if that was not your intent why even use it?


    Quote:

    No, I don't know what exactly to call it, but it falls under the umbrella of sexual assault.

    I do not have to detail my experience with you.


    "Umbrella of sexual assault"
    That is an issue in itself. Sexual assault is not necessarily rape while rape is sexual assault.
    The "crime" you describe quite literally could be quite literally, "I felt uncomfortable with how he was looking at me" right on through to rape. The two should never be treated the same. One is obvious harm to another and deserves legal ramifications, the other is more a case of some one needing to be told to put on her big girl panties and get over herself. And anything in between.

    I don't recall asking for any specifics at all.
    What I DID say was, if you have a legit complaint you should file said complaint with the appropriate people.
    One of 2 things went on and I don't care which.
    Either you are correct or incorrect in your version of what occurred. If you are correct and knowing what you know and not filing a complaint you are essentially allowing this person to do the same to others.

    Quote:

    I love how now I've apparently said that all men are evil.

    I'll stand up for you here and say that you did not in fact say all men are evil.
    What you said was all men should be treated like they are evil.


    Oh, Raptor. Thank you.
  • 02-08-2013, 05:56 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by qtepythons View Post
    thanks for the post. I have 4 daughters. They need to read this. They are teenagers.
    at what age do you think a girl should read this? The 2 daughters i'm going to have read it are 13 and 15.
    My wife and i have already taught them to avoid men when possible.

    Now.
  • 02-08-2013, 05:59 PM
    Raptor
    ..Lol "Avoid men when possible"? Wow. They'd be utterly screwed if they were in my position. My friday organic chemistry lab is all men. According to some of the people here, I ought to be having a panic attack.
  • 02-08-2013, 06:00 PM
    CatandDiallo
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
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    "Check your privilege" is nothing but a shaming tactic to silence opposition. So, if that was not your intent why even use it?




    "Umbrella of sexual assault"
    That is an issue in itself. Sexual assault is not necessarily rape while rape is sexual assault.
    The "crime" you describe quite literally could be quite literally, "I felt uncomfortable with how he was looking at me" right on through to rape. The two should never be treated the same. One is obvious harm to another and deserves legal ramifications, the other is more a case of some one needing to be told to put on her big girl panties and get over herself. And anything in between.

    I don't recall asking for any specifics at all.
    What I DID say was, if you have a legit complaint you should file said complaint with the appropriate people.
    One of 2 things went on and I don't care which.
    Either you are correct or incorrect in your version of what occurred. If you are correct and knowing what you know and not filing a complaint you are essentially allowing this person to do the same to others.


    I'll stand up for you here and say that you did not in fact say all men are evil.
    What you said was all men should be treated like they are evil.


    Oh, Raptor. Thank you.

    Never, NEVER tell a victim of sexual assault to report their assault because it will "help stop the perpetrator from doing the same to others". It is not their fault what the perpetrator did to them.
    This pits a huge, huge burden on the victim, when there should be none.

    Also, having and recognizing certain privileges should not shame you. I fully recognize my white privilege and everything that comes with it, and boy has it opened my eyes.
    It was an attempt to get you to realize that you may not have to consider some of the things that we may have to at certain times, and to try to get you to look at things from a different perspective.
  • 02-08-2013, 06:02 PM
    CatandDiallo
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    ..Lol "Avoid men when possible"? Wow. They'd be utterly screwed if they were in my position. My friday organic chemistry lab is all men. According to some of the people here, I ought to be having a panic attack.

    Yeah, I definitely read this and thought it was the wrong way of going about things. It is a bit extreme.
  • 02-08-2013, 06:03 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CatandDiallo View Post
    Never, NEVER tell a victim of sexual assault to report their assault because it will "help stop the perpetrator from doing the same to others". It is not their fault what the perpetrator did to them.
    This pits a huge, huge burden on the victim, when there should be none.

    Also, having and recognizing certain privileges should not shame you. I fully recognize my white privilege and everything that comes with it, and boy has it opened my eyes.
    It was an attempt to get you to realize that you may not have to consider some of the things that we may have to at certain times, and to try to get you to look at things from a different perspective.

    THANK YOU.

    Realizing your "privilege" has nothing to do with making you feel guilty.
  • 02-08-2013, 06:04 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729 View Post
    First off, I am really sorry that this happened to you, no one should ever have to go through that and I really do not even want to imagine how this must have effected you. I know you've probably heard it a hundred times but I mean it.

    It is also depressingly common that victims of sexual assault know their attacker personally. An upwards of 80% of sexual assault victims were raped/molested by a family member or friend.

    Mine was my aunt's husband [a pedo] and then my brother in law.

    "Total strangers" have never harmed me.

    As a young 'un, I was in far more danger with my own 'family' than in a crowd of strangers.

    For most of my life I've either had a really nasty Dobermann with me or at least one razor sharp dagger hidden on my person...often both at the same time.

    I learned very young that no one was was going to protect me but me.
  • 02-08-2013, 06:05 PM
    Raven01
    Re: All Women Should Read This
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    While your heart is in the right place I have to disagree. I don't believe you can teach the mentally sick, to not be mentally sick.
    I'm sure on rare occasion a lonely loser decides he needs to have sex and that's the only way. But I believe that is far and few between. More than anything I think it's the mentally sick that commit most rapes, and there is nothing that will change them.

    Exactly!
    Pre-judging anyone especially based solely on things they cannot change about themselves is pretty sick. Worse being treated like a criminally insane person because you happen to share one similar gene is pretty harsh.

    Check out the guy from Auction Hunters in this SnakeBytes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJo80tqKhE8

    He rescues reptiles from inept people. Look at his demeanor versus his physical appearance.
    There is a guy I would trust with any of my animals, pffft. If I personally knew him I bet he would be great interacting with my kids too.
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