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Just for reference I have been a Satanist, believed in the idea of Satan, since the 8th Grade...

when I was in High School I was in your situation... My parents wanted me to go to youth groups every Wednesday... And you know what I did.... I went.

i went for 2 years... Why? Out of respect for my parents... They had done everything for me.... Feed me, housed me, and even washed me at on point.... The least I could do is sacrifice some time, for everything they have and had done for me....

Did I like it? Heck no!!!!

but instead of pestering my parents with my objections I took it to my youth group.... I gave them hell, turned everything into a debate... At first I was hoping to get banned, but those turn the other cheek bastards kept welcoming me with open arms lol... I ended up learning a lot about people.. Learning other peoples POV was really the best part...,but To be honest all youth group was was a bunch of local kids hanging out... And I made ton of friends there...

once I turned 18 I stopped going and my parents had no problem with that, since I "gave it a shot"

you snakes will be fine without you hovering over them for a few hours....
And you vehicles aren't going anywhere

my 3 cents

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Originally Posted by lovepig78

i went for 2 years... Why? Out of respect for my parents... They had done everything for me.... Feed me, housed me, and even washed me at on point.... The least I could do is sacrifice some time, for everything they have and had done for me....

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Prison guards feed and house prisoners too but that doesn't mean that prisoners need to respect their prison guards when they leave prison.

So do you worship Satan or just believe in him?

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Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729

Prison guards feed and house prisoners too but that doesn't mean that prisoners need to respect their prison guards when they leave prison.

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By this analogy I'm guessing you had horrible parents.... If not, i don't mean to offend.

And comparing prison to a household is kind of ridiculous, in this situation....

OP seems to have pets and all kinds of motor vehicles... I doubt he is in said prison assumption..

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Originally Posted by gsarchie

So do you worship Satan or just believe in him?

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This not relavent to this thread topic. In short Satan is an idea, to me, to "worship Satan" would make you a Catholic/Christian....

I would gladly continue this threw PMs, but lets keep this thread on topic :3

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Originally Posted by lovepig78

By this analogy I'm guessing you had horrible parents.... If not, i don't mean to offend.

And comparing prison to a household is kind of ridiculous, in this situation....

OP seems to have pets and all kinds of motor vehicles... I doubt he is in said prison assumption..

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I felt the same when I read this. You cannot compare the two.

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Originally Posted by lovepig78

This not relavent to this thread topic. In short Satan is an idea, to me, to "worship Satan" would make you a Catholic/Christian....

I would gladly continue this threw PMs, but lets keep this thread on topic

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No continuation is necessary, I was just curious.

Ok I'm not going to touch the religion thing as it's not even the base lesson your parent's are trying to teach you. At the heart of this whole thing is the price of the decisions you make as a person. You want to keep snakes your parents have set the price to do so, your not being forced to go your disgruntle paying the asking price for your actions. Whats cheesing you off is that you want it both ways you want to have a price you're happy with and keep snakes, and sometimes as adults that's just not always the case. The price could have been run 2 miles a day or repainting the house every year or anything. In life every day you pay the social asking price for your actions. As an adult you have to weigh the options, is what you want worth the price that's being asked. Is making your car payment worth keeping your car, is showing up to work on time worth keeping your job etc etc. So as the adult you want to be treated as your options are thus, pay the price or get rid of the commodity you have the choice.

Think being told to go to a religous group to keep snakes is rough, wait till you get a fulltime job and have a family of your own. From here on out the cost's only go up.

aslo I want to point out i know ths friend for years ( not seen her in years either) but once she got out of high school she let the freedom go to her head . and has paid for it 10 fold over I bet if i see her now she be tellnig me I was so right andshe wished she could do a lot of it over. last I heard of her left the guy she had a child with( and kid) and ran off to meet some guy in washington state. since then I not her from her family or her in over 10 years.
I also got a buddy that lived only a mile away but he does not contact me at all now since high school . heck I have better relationship with my past teachers still than I did with any classmates. I will say once your on your own you will most likey be giving you parents a call a t least once a year needing some help at times.OR at least askign them how they cooked this or that ( if you like me and suck at most cooking lol)

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Originally Posted by lovepig78

By this analogy I'm guessing you had horrible parents.... If not, i don't mean to offend.

And comparing prison to a household is kind of ridiculous, in this situation....

OP seems to have pets and all kinds of motor vehicles... I doubt he is in said prison assumption..

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Whether my parents were good ones or not is immaterial to the truth or falsehood of my argument.

Saying something is "ridiculous" is not an argument.

Would we like to rephrase this as the principle, "People who feed and shelter you deserve your eternal loyalty and respect irregardless of how they treat you in your relationship with them."

The OP does not owe any respect to his parents as they have clearly shown that they are willing to force him with the threat of removing his property if he chooses not to go to a certain location they deem necessary. They are attempting to bully him into their ideals which is entirely contemptable. If parents such as this realized that their kids do not owe them respect because they were able to perform the amazing act of reproduction that every organism from a protazoa on up possesses then we would have far less of this parental bullying and the world would be a much better place :gj:.

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Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729

Whether my parents were good ones or not is immaterial to the truth or falsehood of my argument.

Saying something is "ridiculous" is not an argument.

Would we like to rephrase this as the principle, "People who feed and shelter you deserve your eternal loyalty and respect irregardless of how they treat you in your relationship with them."

The OP does not owe any respect to his parents as they have clearly shown that they are willing to force him with the threat of removing his property if he chooses not to go to a certain location they deem necessary. They are attempting to bully him into their ideals which is entirely contemptable. If parents such as this realized that their kids do not owe them respect because they were able to perform the amazing act of reproduction that every organism from a protazoa on up possesses then we would have far less of this parental bullying and the world would be a much better place :gj:.

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Unless OP can prove he pays for the electric bill, since his snakes use them, he pays for the water he showers with, pays for the internet he uses to make thread posts, pays for the space he lives in, and pays for the gas on his vehicles......

Then and only then will OP not owe his parents anything....


And going to youth group doesn't mean you are going to get brainwashed... OP seems to know what he believes in...

im 1000% sure OP wouldn't get brainwashed

Honestly, I don't see the big deal.

You're going to be 18 soon and out of the house. So suck it up for the next few months.

IMO, until you live on your own, it's your parents house and their rules.