Why We Are Idiots For Using Kingsnake.com To Price Our Animals

I don't think its idiocy; the market will set the prices... and do it with no emotion and no prejudice.

Another thing is, the internet consolidates markets further, so there is nothing we can do about it.

We either play ball, or get out of the game.

BrandonsBalls

This is very weird post....Leave it to us, right out the gate, to jump in peoples faces to say "Dont breed pythons for the money, do it because you enjoy the animals, do it because your passionate about the hobby" Now ppl are complaining that their business isn't making money....lol Im actually going to lower my prices by 75% on kingsnake on all my 2010 clutches...pastel ♀ $50, My whole clutch of piebalds 400 bucks...Anybody want a
2200g. ♀ spider for 250 bucks...lol :rofl:

I don't see how any one can disagree with this post... Now who is to say they are doing it for money? If you can make money doing what you love wouldn't you? Stop following the band wagon people. Get some common sense... and stop assuming stuff..... Kiddies.


Just my two cents.
Ben

As long as I make back my 300 bucks I spent on my kingsnake account I'm happy! ;)

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Originally Posted by Wonka

When I go to a reptile show and watch who's getting into morphs it's a heck of a lot more type B losers than snobs.

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Excellent, then you agree with me. Thanks for the support! :gj:

Good post Colin:gj:, unfortunately you just schooled a whole bunch of people.:taz:

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Excellent, then you agree with me. Thanks for the support! :gj:

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Haha, just remember, alot of people getting into morphs find this site as a resource and use it to help them decide who to buy from. Resources like this site are what help spread the addiction of this hobby (and resulting markets such as the desire for morphs and caging and other incidentals), and this is where alot of newcomers learn through reputation and words who they want to deal with and who they wouldn't for some reason or another.

Ahh the difference a sarcastic pair of quotation marks or their omission can make!

:weirdface

This is the beauty of a free market system! Prices are set based on supply and demand, and as supply increases (as it does every breeding season with bps) prices go down, thereby allowing more people to afford the luxury of owning a snake. You can't get mad because prices drop year to year. That's how a healthy market works, that's how more people are able to afford more luxuries and how stadard of living is raised (in all areas). I agree you should not go on KS to do "market research" but if price go down on KS it could be an indication of a chaging marketplace. If the phantasm owner/seller realized the demand was still high vs. the price he would not care about the guy faking the price. Also, in the economic atmosphere people are in though financial situations and losing jobs etc. so I think it is natural to see people selling there "collection" cheaper because they do need quick cash. This will flood the market with some morph, thus lowering there value per snake. Another reason people lower their prices on their snakes is bc they can't sell them at their asking price. This shows that demand has decreased vs. supplu so you can't get mad at them for asking a lower price bc you would have to do the same to sell your bp.

sorry if I rambled too much....

I hate to beveryones Bubble but this i just Supply and Demand.

I dont see anyone here complaining that they got a LCD TV thats 50 inchs for 900$ that looks superb, but 5 years ago would have been lower quality and costs 10,000$.

I have purchased 20k$ in reptiles and supplies in the last 12 months. I hatched 6 Clutches of balls this year and have gave away morphs to friends for free. I have not sold 1 reptile and dont plan to until maybe next year. Call me the idiot who ruins the market because I am getting other people involved in the hobby? They wouldnt have bought a nice Albino or other morphs if they werent affordable. Me giving them a morph free? Well guess what one of those friends 5 months later went to the Anaheim NARBC and bought 6 more morphs. Would he have done this without affordable prices? NO. If an Albino ball was 20k I wouldnt buy balls. If my Clown male and female were 20k, I wouldnt be into ball pythons. Its the SUPPLY and lack of demand that lowered the prices and got my 20,000$ into your market.

I am in it for the love of animals, not the love of money. And if they cost too much, then I am afraid I would have to pass. So if your into this for money? Then you have to find a way to outclass, advertise better, Cut your production costs, etc. Same thing applies in every market in the world.

BTW if I ever do sell and animal, and make money. Just know that I had to run a full time "Painter" JOB and raise these animals too. I come home everyday from a 14 hour day and clean cages, feed and water everything. I build racks, completed a Snake room. And if I need to sell an animal thats worth 5k for 1k(although I would never), then unfortunately thats my right. :gj:

I hope evryone who reads this entire thread learns a lot. I really enjoyed it, and Collin you have valid points, and most everyone here does. This is one of those times where when its all said and done and he dust settles...all you can say is ...........

To Each Their Own

Daryl

me and my wife were talking and a good point about prices dropping came up, even if the price of a morph dropped 50% in one year you would still make out over the life of that snake, if its a male you could even make your money back the following year. co-dom male crossed with 3 normal females avg 8 eggs each if you avg 50% odds and get half morphs and the prices dropped 50% once you sell 2 snakes you have what you put into him back already, sell a couple more and he's paid for his food and houseing and you still should have a couple to hold back or sell to get a new morph. thats is just a drop in the bucket compared to what you could do with him if you were to use him to make double and triple morphs plus think of the life of the snake what all he can make.