Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Ask the vet for some reptile valium......and maybe human valium for you lol.

Good luck.

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I’ve already got some for me... I just call it bourbon lmao [emoji23]


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Originally Posted by Stearns84

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Tore another hole in the opposite side of her gums. Worst it’s ever looked within the last week or so. She’s making me feel like an awful keeper, I can’t imagine how she feels. Vet appt at 10am tomorrow.


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Holy cow man. I will say confidently that it is not food related. I really think she might just not like AP cages. I mean that is the only thing you havent tried different.

Grats on being the first person i know who has a snake that is cage brand picky.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Holy cow man. I will say confidently that it is not food related. I really think she might just not like AP cages. I mean that is the only thing you havent tried different.

Grats on being the first person i know who has a snake that is cage brand picky.

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I think there’s tooth lodged in her gums or an infection from previous lost teeth that flares up when she pushes. Hopefully I’ll find something out one way or another tomorrow morning.


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Good luck and hopefully thats it and a quick fix. Would definitely be a 'doh' moment if it was. All this time pushing and it turns out its a lodged tooth that is pulled out in about 10 mins by a vet.

This just sucks.

Some retics just push. It’s nothing you are doing wrong IMO.

I rarely think snakes, unless starved have many food related issues but I stated that way back.

Maybe just the internal part of the AP gives her something to push, but she maybe would in another enclosure just the same.

At this point BIG cage is all I can come up with.

What a crap way to start the weekend.

Sorry brother,, this takes all the fun out of the hobby doesn’ It.


Eventually things will head in the right direction for you both.

Really hoping the vet nips this pushing thing in the butt , don't feel like an awful keeper :tears: you have gorgeous babes, and would do anything for them that makes a pretty special person in my book. Best wishes will keep you both in my prayers tonight ;)

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Originally Posted by Gio

This just sucks.

Some retics just push. It’s nothing you are doing wrong IMO.

I rarely think snakes, unless starved have many food related issues but I stated that way back.

Maybe just the internal part of the AP gives her something to push, but she maybe would in another enclosure just the same.

At this point BIG cage is all I can come up with.

What a crap way to start the weekend.

Sorry brother,, this takes all the fun out of the hobby doesn’ It.


Eventually things will head in the right direction for you both.

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I beg to differ with Caesar and food. As a baby, he was so food driven. I know he pushed from wanting food and like mentioned, it might have been conditioned a little too as i fed him when he pushed. But now that he is an adult, the only time i caught him heavily pushing was when he wanted a girlfriend, or at least that is what i think as he pushed like crazy during breeding season and now he is pretty quiet and can go 2 weeks on a jumbo rat.

Heck when i asked Kris what he was eating when i got him, his response was 'he will eat anything offered. He is not picky in the least'. And he was right, Caesar ate within 2 hours of being unboxed and never stopped, even in shed, he would eat lol. Couldnt see a thing but he was happy to flail around with open mouth until he latched onto food lol.

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I beg to differ with Caesar and food. As a baby, he was so food driven. I know he pushed from wanting food and like mentioned, it might have been conditioned a little too as i fed him when he pushed. But now that he is an adult, the only time i caught him heavily pushing was when he wanted a girlfriend, or at least that is what i think as he pushed like crazy during breeding season and now he is pretty quiet and can go 2 weeks on a jumbo rat.

Heck when i asked Kris what he was eating when i got him, his response was 'he will eat anything offered. He is not picky in the least'. And he was right, Caesar ate within 2 hours of being unboxed and never stopped, even in shed, he would eat lol. Couldnt see a thing but he was happy to flail around with open mouth until he latched onto food lol.

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Yours was a baby this is a different situation.
Wallace ate everything offered as well at that age. This is a very large, mature animal not in the beginning stages.

The snake in question here is being over fed to solve a problem. Food is NOT the issue here and only stops pushing because energy is diverted to digest instead of push. If she is now conditioned, it still doesn’t make food the answer.

With most adult snakes in scenarios like this, as I stated, unless starved, more and more food is not the answer.