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  • 07-03-2018, 12:39 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    I’ve considered that too. That’s partially why I’m open to the idea of swinging doors instead of sliding. If anything becomes available within a decent driving distance of me I’m willing to give it a shot.


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  • 07-03-2018, 12:47 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Hey,

    I'm grabbing at straws here so I'll add this suggestion/idea/thought.

    I'm wondering IF, its the design of the cage for her that gives her a spot to push and get to traction. Maybe you should try to find a used Boaphile or Pro-Line or Vision cage and just try it. Sure its a waste of money of it doesn't work, but may end up worth it if it does.

    I'm at a loss, other than building your own custom cage, I can't come up with anything.

    My big boa used to push at the end corners on the Proline and being the corners and stuff arent rounded and smoothed like AP cages, she somehow managed to cut her nose. That's not to say that the AP cage isnt for some weird reason making her push though.

    But yeah, i agree, that is so weird why she is constantly pushing.
  • 07-03-2018, 01:14 PM
    jmcrook
    Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    I asked Garrett Hartle about it and he wonders if feeding her so much when she pushes has her “trained wrong”. That’s coming from a guy that only feeds some of his adult SDs 15-18 meals a year though. Not sure how he manages that. I probably did just feed her a bit heavily right out of the gate but I was just going by Cody’s recommendation in the SD care thread on here. Who knows. Freezer will be here Thursday then I can order a ton of whatever she wants to eat and call it done. Just worried she’s gonna turn into the fattest snake ever


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  • 07-03-2018, 02:04 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    I asked Garrett Hartle about it and he wonders if feeding her so much when she pushes has her “trained wrong”. That’s coming from a guy that only feeds some of his adult SDs 15-18 meals a year though. Not sure how he manages that. I probably did just feed her a bit heavily right out of the gate but I was just going by Cody’s recommendation in the SD care thread on here. Who knows. Freezer will be here Thursday then I can order a ton of whatever she wants to eat and call it done. Just worried she’s gonna turn into the fattest snake ever


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    "Tonight on my 600lb snake......."

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  • 07-03-2018, 05:46 PM
    Gio
    I agree, you have to back down on the feeding. I'm hoping somehow in the cooler months you can make a seasonal change that forces her back into natural SD migratory feeding cycle.

    I was reading an article on diamond pythons that discussed overfeeding, and inadequate temperature changes. Granted that species is completely different in many ways. I know the evolutional/history of the dwarf populations. They are supposed to feed less and eat smaller prey items. During the migrations, they certainly will eat more, but even still Mother Nature doesn't make it easy.

    I know it solves the pushing issue for a short time, but is likely starting to add up internally. It is a very frustrating situation that I wish I could help you with.

    A buddy of mine talked to Garrett for an hour yesterday and holds him in high regard. He maybe on to something in mentioning your girl could be conditioned to push and then receive food.

    Too bad they don't make those embarrassing "cones of shame" that we put on dogs with licking problems, for snakes LOL!

    She's driving you nuts, and that's the opposite of what we want from this hobby . Grrrrrrrr!!!
  • 07-06-2018, 06:58 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    How's she doing?

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  • 07-06-2018, 07:12 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    How's she doing?

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    Day four. Smashing face again. Hasn’t even pooped yet. I just don’t get it. Just left a message with the closest exotics vet near me, which is 3.5hrs away.


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  • 07-06-2018, 07:37 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Day four. Smashing face again. Hasn’t even pooped yet. I just don’t get it. Just left a message with the closest exotics vet near me, which is 3.5hrs away.


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    If it was me (keep in mind I don't know much) I'd temp an enclosure. Go buy 3 or 4 4x8 sheets of junk particle board Pyle wood. Frame up a make shift big enclosure 8'by 3' or 4' high. Toss in his glass fronts from the t25 with just mirror mounts. Line the heck out of it with paper towels or puppy mats and see how she does. Obviously it won't last more than a week see how she does. If she doesn't push in a monster cage you know the route you need to go. She pushes then keep investigating. Won't cost more than $30.

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  • 07-06-2018, 08:01 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Originally Posted by Stearns84 View Post
    If it was me (keep in mind I don't know much) I'd temp an enclosure. Go buy 3 or 4 4x8 sheets of junk particle board Pyle wood. Frame up a make shift big enclosure 8'by 3' or 4' high. Toss in his glass fronts from the t25 with just mirror mounts. Line the heck out of it with paper towels or puppy mats and see how she does. Obviously it won't last more than a week see how she does. If she doesn't push in a monster cage you know the route you need to go. She pushes then keep investigating. Won't cost more than $30.

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    Her* damn I do it all the time.

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  • 07-06-2018, 08:07 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stearns84 View Post
    If it was me (keep in mind I don't know much) I'd temp an enclosure. Go buy 3 or 4 4x8 sheets of junk particle board Pyle wood. Frame up a make shift big enclosure 8'by 3' or 4' high. Toss in his glass fronts from the t25 with just mirror mounts. Line the heck out of it with paper towels or puppy mats and see how she does. Obviously it won't last more than a week see how she does. If she doesn't push in a monster cage you know the route you need to go. She pushes then keep investigating. Won't cost more than $30.

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    I like the thinking here, I just can’t get an 8’ piece of anything in that room unless it’s modular, much less get it in my car. The air vents in the apt drop the ceiling to 7’ in the hall and it’s a VERY tight turn to get to the snake room. It was a close squeeze trying to get her t25 in there


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