Pat the baby biak green tree python

Pat's getting ready to shed. You can see his full on hazy coloring. He also wasnt too much into his fuzzy mouse but after some furious wiggling and rubbing on him even after he hissed at it a few times, he finally caved and ate it lol. So Pat is another snake down that will eat in shed. Not gung ho like Caesar in shed but he still ate. Also starting to learn with Pat, when he sits under his heater, it means he's getting ready to shed. Seems all the snakes do that before shedding. It's like they are simmering the body juices before shedding lol.
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He's looking great :)

gorgeous! love the way the green tree pythons look.

Thanks. Just wish he/she would hurry up and get some green on him/her. I'm dying here lol. On the flip side though, guess I'll have a yellow snake for a very long time as Biaks are the slowest to change and sometimes hold most of their yellow.

Guess some people try and sell them off as High Yellows since it sometimes take a couple years for them to start changing colors lol.

And we have a fresh shed Pat aka BP on a stick lol! Another perfect one piece shed. I expect to see him on the front perch tonight trying to caudal lure me.
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Such a good looking fresh coat of paint that handsome fella has, when will he start getting his green coloring?

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Such a good looking fresh coat of paint that handsome fella has, when will he start getting his green coloring?

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Thanks. Well, being he's Biak, i have been told it can take anywhere from 2 years to 5 years for them to start and complete their color change. most other locale GTPs start and are done about 1-2 years but Biaks take forever. They also have the biggest variation in their change. Most GTPs will turn green with either blue or white depending on the locale but with Biaks, some will hold lots of yellow, some will get lots of green, some with get speckles of yellow and green, it's all a grab bag with them.

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Thanks. Just wish he/she would hurry up and get some green on him/her. I'm dying here lol

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Lol I guess I'm tho opposite I love the yellow color and patterns. Tho I can't wait to see him either when he changes to green and blue, my two favorite colors lol.

I just want you to know that when I place my order, IT IS ALL YOUR FOUGHT! LOL. He looks great.

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And we have a fresh shed Pat aka BP on a stick lol! Another perfect one piece shed. I expect to see him on the front perch tonight trying to caudal lure me.
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Lol I guess I'm tho opposite I love the yellow color and patterns. Tho I can't wait to see him either when he changes to green and blue, my two favorite colors lol.

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I like the yellow color too as he is neon yellow and literally looks like he glows haha. But i want to see the green too. Guess it worked out good that i got a Biak as they hold yellows and gain green. Some even keep most of the yellow and only gain a little green which would be pretty awesome. But we'll see as Biaks are just a grab bag on what you end up with.

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I just want you to know that when I place my order, IT IS ALL YOUR FOUGHT! LOL. He looks great.

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Thanks. And be sure you have the cage and everything set up. I went through 3 cages in about 3 days for Pat. I started him out in a little 6 qt tub which he hated and grounded himself plus i had a hard time maintaining a temp gradient. So i switched him to a 25 qt tub which he liked a lot more and perched and i could do a better job at a gradient but i couldnt see him as it was a tub lol. So i said screw it and got him the Zoo Med 18x18x18 cube and he liked that too and i liked it as well. Now i got his AP cage on order which i actually changed it today from the 2x2x3 to a T5 3x2x2 with sliding glass doors, RHP and LED. I'll just go with less perches. Saw a few set ups of T5s on the GTP FB boards and after talking to a few people with them, i guess they work well so I was convinced to switch even though i still think a 3 foot high cage would be better but we'll see. Worst case, i can order a custom 3x2x3 AP cage and then sell the T5.

But anyways, be sure you have the set up all ready to go before you get the GTP. I consider myself fairly experienced with reptiles and i think i got lucky with how much moving around of cages with Pat and everything and the fact he still ate like a champ during the whole cage shiftings.

For sure. I have a couple already to set up but waiting on moving (trying to be good) right now. Will post photos of snake room when I get the new house.

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I like the yellow color too as he is neon yellow and literally looks like he glows haha. But i want to see the green too. Guess it worked out good that i got a Biak as they hold yellows and gain green. Some even keep most of the yellow and only gain a little green which would be pretty awesome. But we'll see as Biaks are just a grab bag on what you end up with.



Thanks. And be sure you have the cage and everything set up. I went through 3 cages in about 3 days for Pat. I started him out in a little 6 qt tub which he hated and grounded himself plus i had a hard time maintaining a temp gradient. So i switched him to a 25 qt tub which he liked a lot more and perched and i could do a better job at a gradient but i couldnt see him as it was a tub lol. So i said screw it and got him the Zoo Med 18x18x18 cube and he liked that too and i liked it as well. Now i got his AP cage on order which i actually changed it today from the 2x2x3 to a T5 3x2x2 with sliding glass doors, RHP and LED. I'll just go with less perches. Saw a few set ups of T5s on the GTP FB boards and after talking to a few people with them, i guess they work well so I was convinced to switch even though i still think a 3 foot high cage would be better but we'll see. Worst case, i can order a custom 3x2x3 AP cage and then sell the T5.

But anyways, be sure you have the set up all ready to go before you get the GTP. I consider myself fairly experienced with reptiles and i think i got lucky with how much moving around of cages with Pat and everything and the fact he still ate like a champ during the whole cage shiftings.

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Think someone is hungry....only time i see Pat perching on the front perch during the day is when he wants dinner. Also the past few nights, he has been on the rampage lol.
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Lol now as the day wears on, Pat is becoming more forward with his demand for food....maybe i need to run to the pet shop and pick up a FT fuzzy mouse......
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Lol Daenerys is exactly the same way lmao....give me an hour and I’ll show u what I mean lol


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Such a cutie pie, looking for seconds me thinks😉 big brother Ceaser be proud lol good thing snake don't trade secrets or he probably teach him mashing your face equals bigger more frequent dinner 😅 great picture 👍

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Such a cutie pie, looking for seconds me thinks😉 big brother Ceaser be proud lol good thing snake don't trade secrets or he probably teach him mashing your face equals bigger more frequent dinner 😅 great picture 👍

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Oh i think he has been talking to Caesar. i woke up this morning to a nice hole dug in the corner of floor of the cage as well as substrate pushed around.....I dont think Pat got the memo that GTPs shouldnt be digging in the dirt lol. Last night before i went to bed, he was all over the place climbing up on the potted plants, on the pots, down on the floor cruising around, all over the perches, shoving his head into the corner of the cage and sliding it upward. The little guy is a terror when its a day before dinner day. Like an arboreal Caesar haha.

SO beautiful! That is one of my dream snakes!

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SO beautiful! That is one of my dream snakes!

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Thanks. Me too and only took about 30 years for the dream to reach fruition lol. Pretty darn happy now though. Just gave Pat his fuzzy mouse. The minute i opened the cage, the little bugger took a shot at the air lol. Guess he smelled dinner. I showed him the food and he looked at it for a minute and did the head clamp on it with his mouth haha.

Little booger looks fairly happy now. Cant see the food in his belly as its on the back section hanging off the perch lol. He packs those large fuzzy mice down in record time. Easily one of the quickest eaters i got.
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I love Pat!!
Will she change color as she grows?

Edit: I feel dumb. Something tells me they are called green tree python for reason, haha.

Thanks. Yeah, he'll change one day. Biaks can take years to change. They are the longest to change out of GTPs and some retain a lot of yellow too. I'm still waiting to find a single green scale on Pat but he is still only about 11 months old or so. So hopefully soon.

Was looking at Pat tonight while he sat on his front perch and couldnt help but notice how much he has grown. Got the little worm back on Dec 29th and he is so much bigger now sitting on his perches. I even upgraded the size of his perches from little 1/4 inch ones when i got him to 1/2 inch ones a couple months ago. He's got some hanging girth to him now lol. And he's also got a much more substantial head to him as well. Starting to look more like a GTP every day lol. And i love his little winking emoji head mark haha.
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So love Pat. Beautiful for sure.

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Was looking at Pat tonight while he sat on his front perch and couldnt help but notice how much he has grown. Got the little worm back on Dec 29th and he is so much bigger now sitting on his perches. I even upgraded the size of his perches from little 1/4 inch ones when i got him to 1/2 inch ones a couple months ago. He's got some hanging girth to him now lol. And he's also got a much more substantial head to him as well. Starting to look more like a GTP every day lol. And i love his little winking emoji head mark haha.
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Pat is getting big, congratulations such a handsome little fella ;)

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Pat is getting big, congratulations such a handsome little fella ;)

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He is. He's grown like a weed lol. Last night he was out in force. Dropped a big deuce in the front of the cage on the floor. I decided to play roulette and open the door at night and reach in to scoop up the poop with Pat sitting stretched out half on a plant and his top front perch. Surprisingly he didnt take a shot at me. He just looked at me and sat there lol. Pat is so laid back. Like i said, only time i have seen him lose it was when he saw the blinking green lights on the router. He unleashed the rage and took 2 quick shots at it until i moved him away haha. And of course, what would a post be without a pic of Pat!! Pat doing his impression of a 'BP on a stick' :)
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Great picture, so Pat just does his business on his perch? Or does he come down to relieve himself always curious about that?:oops:

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Great picture, so Pat just does his business on his perch? Or does he come down to relieve himself always curious about that?:oops:

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I think most GTPs poop off the perch but Pat is a weirdo and likes to come down and poop on the floor. He also likes to dig and play around in the damp Reptile Prime. I find all kinds of dig spots and pushed substrate in the morning. Last night he was all over the floor, the plant pots, the live plants, fake plants, perches, he was just going bananas last night and cruising all over.

He even tried to caudal lure me a little when i went over to stare at him on the front perch. I call the 'pat wave' lol. When i wiggle a finger at him to say 'hi', he wiggles his tail at me to say 'hi' back. Just kidding but he does do that haha.

Sounds like a true gentleman, always pictured them shooting their business every which way, made them a little less appealing in my book :oops: that and everyone saying they are mean but your is polite and excuse himself to answer nature's call plus a sweetie some people just have collection too cool for words :gj:

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He is. He's grown like a weed lol. Last night he was out in force. Dropped a big deuce in the front of the cage on the floor. I decided to play roulette and open the door at night and reach in to scoop up the poop with Pat sitting stretched out half on a plant and his top front perch. Surprisingly he didnt take a shot at me. He just looked at me and sat there lol. Pat is so laid back. Like i said, only time i have seen him lose it was when he saw the blinking green lights on the router. He unleashed the rage and took 2 quick shots at it until i moved him away haha. And of course, what would a post be without a pic of Pat!! Pat doing his impression of a 'BP on a stick' :)
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He looks great man!

Love the arboreal stuff,,,, I just dig it for whatever reason.

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Sounds like a true gentleman, always pictured them shooting their business every which way, made them a little less appealing in my book :oops: that and everyone saying they are mean but your is polite and excuse himself to answer nature's call plus a sweetie some people just have collection too cool for words :gj:

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Well, most biaks are rather tempermental. Also biaks are the largest of the GTPs iirc. They also dont necessarily turn full green. Some keep a lot of yellow, some more green, some a mix of both. With biaks, you just never know which is why i see a lot of people liking to mix biaks into breeding projects.

Not sure why Pat is so laid back but i wont complain lol. I've seen other people with really mellow biaks too. I personally think each snake is going to have its own temper and it also helps if you raise them in a nonstressful environment where the snake doesnt really have to worry much. Like i said, i interact with all my snakes a lot, not necessarily taking them out of the cages and parading them around 24/7 but i always leave a door open when im around and pet them and stuff when i change water. So they always have some sort of interaction unless they are in a hide, then i leave them alone unless they willingly come out to say 'hi' lol.

Plus sometimes, certain ones want more interaction time. Rosey recently has really been wanting the attention where she was pretty much content with being in a hide and quiet for past couple months. You learn to read them after keeping them for a long time.

Haha someone wants dinner. Pat is out on the front perch during the day. He only does that when he wants dinner which means from day 7+, you will catch the little bugger on the front perch during the day. I'm making everyone wait an extra 3 days for food. Let them all get good and hungry a little bit. Plus when all the little boas and Pat are hungry, i see them out much more lol.
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Pats little tail is going to be exhausted from all that shaking around in three days, but I can totally see why you like him out in the open such a handsome fella, will Ceaser get his dinner in three days too? Just curious if you tried to keep the majority of your collection eating on the same day. Great picture thank you for sharing :gj:

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Pats little tail is going to be exhausted from all that shaking around in three days, but I can totally see why you like him out in the open such a handsome fella, will Ceaser get his dinner in three days too? Just curious if you tried to keep the majority of your collection eating on the same day. Great picture thank you for sharing :gj:

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Yeah Caesar will get dinner then too. I'm trying to get everyone as close as possible but it will never always on the same day as the 2 big boas eat usually every month, the little boas eat every 2-3 weeks, dumerils is every 2-3 weeks, Dottie is every 6 months or so lol.....really she just eats whenever she wants, i just offer her food every 2-3 weeks, and Caesar is going to every 2 weeks now too. Pat is every 7-10 days but might start doing a little longer, maybe every 2 weeks for him too as he is nice and filled out now.

Well at least Dottie keeps the food bill down a little ;) sounds like your fellas eat you out of house a and home if you let them :rofl: but they are fabulous either way:D

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Yeah Caesar will get dinner then too. I'm trying to get everyone as close as possible but it will never always on the same day as the 2 big boas eat usually every month, the little boas eat every 2-3 weeks, dumerils is every 2-3 weeks, Dottie is every 6 months or so lol.....really she just eats whenever she wants, i just offer her food every 2-3 weeks, and Caesar is going to every 2 weeks now too. Pat is every 7-10 days but might start doing a little longer, maybe every 2 weeks for him too as he is nice and filled out now.

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Every 2 weeks for Caesar? Are you sure he isn't broken?

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Every 2 weeks for Caesar? Are you sure he isn't broken?

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I'm surprised too. So far, everyone was supposed to eat on the 15th and its now the 17th and everyone is doing good. They are much more alert and explore more at night though haha. And Pat is living on his front perch now lol. But Caesar is still just being Caesar, no pushing except in the morning after his cage builds up humidity from the cypress. Him and Rosey both are at the front until i open a door and let the humidity drop some. Then they both go to sleep. I think Caesar is finally done with his 'baby' growing so he isnt so food driven anymore.

How's pat?

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How's pat?

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Just being Pat. Causing trouble at night. Digs around in the substrate, climbs ALL over the place. Sits on a perch and flips over upside down and stares out the front of the cage. Never had a snake sit there with it's head upside down just looking out the door for a while, then flip over and go crawling off. Waiting for his AP cage to hopefully ship out end of this month.

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Just being Pat. Causing trouble at night. Digs around in the substrate, climbs ALL over the place. Sits on a perch and flips over upside down and stares out the front of the cage. Never had a snake sit there with it's head upside down just looking out the door for a while, then flip over and go crawling off. Waiting for his AP cage to hopefully ship out end of this month.

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Can't wait to see the new enclosure when it gets here!

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Can't wait to see the new enclosure when it gets here!

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Yeah, same. And here is an updated Pat, looking pretty much the same.
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My word what are you feeding him;), seems like only yesterday he was a wee little tiny spaghetti noodle hanging off a straw for a perch now he a big beautiful boy. Congratulations you really are a really amazing person and care giver to your magnificent collection :number1:

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My word what are you feeding him;), seems like only yesterday he was a wee little tiny spaghetti noodle hanging off a straw for a perch now he a big beautiful boy. Congratulations you really are a really amazing person and care giver to your magnificent collection :number1:

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Lol thanks. He eats large fuzzy mice every 10-14 days.

And yeah, he was so tiny when i got him. Now when it is close to dinner time and he is out and about at night, he easily reaches the floor of the cage from his top perch and can basically stretch along one whole side of his 18x18x18 cube and almost a second side as well. But he doesnt really move much except from his spot on the back perch to his spot on the front perch unless he is hungry.

What is the largest prey item that GTP will get to I think the way your little fella is growing like a boss Pat might want to eat some of Ceasers dinners :rofl:

Man I’m kinda envious of that critter tbh. I won’t let myself have one until I’m good and settled somewhere though. Too fragile for me to want to move one every year or two or three.


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Man I’m kinda envious of that critter tbh. I won’t let myself have one until I’m good and settled somewhere though. Too fragile for me to want to move one every year or two or three.


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Yeah, Pat has definitely grown on me. But i wanted a GTP since a kid. Not sure how fragile they are. I moved Pat between like 3 cages in about 4 days when i got him lol. He grounded himself in the 6 qt tub which is what everyone recommended. Once i moved him to the 25 qt and then the Zoo Med 18x18x18 cube, he went back to perching. He really hated the 6 qt tub with plastic coat hanger perches. Ironic as that is what everyone recommends for neonates.

I'm sure you would be fine as long as you got a yearling. I mean a neonate would probably be fine too assuming you didnt move when you got him and he had at least 6 months to get settled in.

And the best part of all, GTPs stay fairly small and dont need lots of room. I think Biaks are the largest of the GTPs getting to like 4 feet or so for females.

Heck compared to even a boa, GTPs are simple. I scoop out a poop/pee every 4-5 days and feed him a FT fuzzy mouse every 10-14 days.

He looks great. Keep showing him off. With my collection complete for now I will not be getting one of these guys. I have to live vicariously through you. So beautiful.

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Yeah, same. And here is an updated Pat, looking pretty much the same.
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Wow, stunning. How is pat with handling? Seems like they are 100% for it or 100% against it. Never an in between.

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Originally Posted by C.Marie

What is the largest prey item that GTP will get to I think the way your little fella is growing like a boss Pat might want to eat some of Ceasers dinners :rofl:

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A full grown adult female can take a small rat at its largest but most people keep them on mice. I dont plan to ever feed Pat a rat.

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Wow, stunning. How is pat with handling? Seems like they are 100% for it or 100% against it. Never an in between.

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I dont really handle him. Last time i did, he was fine. I dont pick him off his perch. I just remove the perch with him on it and he is fine and curious. Sometimes he will climb down the perch and onto my hand to see whats up. I do put my hands next to him every couple days to change water and he either will perk up and look at my hand and flick his tongue and then go back to sleep or just sit there looking at my hand. He has never struck at me. Mostly just hisses when he is pissy and wants to be left alone. If the hissing doesnt work, he will wander off to the other end of the perch or a different perch.

Guess Pat enjoys the weird sleeping poses.
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Guess Pat enjoys the weird sleeping poses.
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Pat is gorgeous!

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A full grown adult female can take a small rat at its largest but most people keep them on mice. I dont plan to ever feed Pat a rat.

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Ever considered chicks? I get the stills and culls from a friend who raises meat birds, and my king snakes, savu pythons, and smaller boas and BRB's go bonkers for them. I figure a GTP would love chicks also and the smallest of them are no bigger than a jumbo mouse.