Caesar progression thread.

WOW - He's growing nicely.

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Originally Posted by BR8080

WOW - He's growing nicely.

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Thanks. He has gotten huge. Not sure i would call him a super dwarf anymore as he is bigger than Rosey and my biggest snake now lol. Funny though, he is my only snake who seems to sulk or freeze and lay down if he thinks he did something wrong. The boas are all 'it wasnt me!' and keep doing what they are doing while if you boop Caesar or tap his snoot, he lays down in place.

I've been doing a lot of research on SD/D retics....considering it

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I've been doing a lot of research on SD/D retics....considering it

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I'm sure you'd like them. They are definitely full of personality but they also are a handful and poop, pee and eat like a newborn kid lol.

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I'm sure you'd like them. They are definitely full of personality but they also are a handful and poop, pee and eat like a newborn kid lol.

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Every single day!

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Caesar has found a new spot to hang out since it's been hot recently. Been sitting for about an hour lol.
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Caesar is definitely loving the new cage. He took a little break inside his hide and now he is off and running again. Just sitting up on the shelf, stretching out and exploring. Much happier than in the T10.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...4b8aa323_h.jpg

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Caesar is definitely loving the new cage. He took a little break inside his hide and now he is off and running again. Just sitting up on the shelf, stretching out and exploring. Much happier than in the T10.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...4b8aa323_h.jpg

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He is getting thick

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He is getting thick

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He is. Thats why he has been moved to a jumbo every 10 days now. I think he has more or less finished his length growth, now just the round growing lol.

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He is. Thats why he has been moved to a jumbo every 10 days now. I think he has more or less finished his length growth, now just the round growing lol.

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really? whats his age and length now?

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really? whats his age and length now?

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He's 14 months and about 7'

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He's 14 months and about 7'

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Wow my SD Purple Albino is the same age and still well under 3' !!


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Wow my SD Purple Albino is the same age and still well under 3' !!https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...572f498b3c.jpgSent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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Yeah I think he took after the mainland more lol. He is a tiger which I have been told is a gene that makes them larger. He's 37.5% SD, 31.5% dwarf and 31% mainland. He's a white albino tiger het snow from Kris over at Vital Exotics.

I really don't mind if he is larger as he is really mellow and has never bit or tried to bite me. About the worst he did was piss on my bare foot when I was watching a movie and let him out. He parked his butt over my foot and let loose. I looked down to a nice warm river and then him looking at me and slowly crawling away lol.

Lol Caesar looks so comfy sleeping kind of on his shelf.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2465db22_h.jpg

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Lol Caesar looks so comfy sleeping kind of on his shelf.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2465db22_h.jpg

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He's getting so big, 14 months and 7 foot huh? Wow that's not bad, I know the tiger gene does some crazy things to the size of animals so that's not to bad. he looks like he's trying to impersonate a green tree python there, such a pretty boy.

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He's getting so big, 14 months and 7 foot huh? Wow that's not bad, I know the tiger gene does some crazy things to the size of animals so that's not to bad. he looks like he's trying to impersonate a green tree python there, such a pretty boy.

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Haha yeah he slept up on his shelf all day long. The T25 shelves are wider than the T10s so the boas and retic have lots of room to relax up on them and they do just that. Vicky has been hanging around on the shelf and then comes down and buries herself in the ReptiChips. Then rinse and repeat haha. Cant wait for Rosey to shed so she can enjoy the digs :)

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Haha yeah he slept up on his shelf all day long. The T25 shelves are wider than the T10s so the boas and retic have lots of room to relax up on them and they do just that. Vicky has been hanging around on the shelf and then comes down and buries herself in the ReptiChips. Then rinse and repeat haha. Cant wait for Rosey to shed so she can enjoy the digs :)

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It's so fun watching them explore their cages and figure out what kind of trouble they can get in lol

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It's so fun watching them explore their cages and figure out what kind of trouble they can get in lol

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Oddly enough ... I have 21 snakes and viv setups , all kitted out with branches and bark pieces - they make the vivs look nice and they all spend evening hours climbing ( especially the Royals / Ball pythons ) .

Anyways . .. Every so often I move the branches around from viv to viv and it's fascinating to watch hem all sniffing and tongue flicking as they check out the other snakes aromas on the branches ...

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Oddly enough ... I have 21 snakes and viv setups , all kitted out with branches and bark pieces - they make the vivs look nice and they all spend evening hours climbing ( especially the Royals / Ball pythons ) .

Anyways . .. Every so often I move the branches around from viv to viv and it's fascinating to watch hem all sniffing and tongue flicking as they check out the other snakes aromas on the branches ...

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That definitely does sound interesting to watch, I bet they get somewhat confused by the new scents. I wonder what goes through their little heads when it happens

Hey all. Going through my first shed and I am confused as to what is good. I have a 13 week old normal and he is shedding in pieces. His head went first, then his belly. He has the top half of his body to go. It's that ok? Humidity in tank is 60-70%. Also gave him a few warm baths to help it along. Thanks!

Did you soak in a sealed container for 25 minutes or just a quick swim in the bath ??
Fear not :
When my go into shed I spray the viv well each day then as soon as their eyes clear and they get their colour back I start spraying a few times each day ... You'll probably find :cens0r:the messy , rolled up lump of skin UNDER his hide afterwards ) .
Note they get their colour back and the eyes clear a few days BEFORE the skin actually comes off .
Whilst it's in shed mode - try and find a few appropriately sized branches for his Viv/ rub - as if you want an active Royal you need to give him something to climb on in the evenings ....

So with the 3 T25, what's the plans with the empty enclosures?

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I did a quick swim then let him move around my hands while holding a warm washcloth. Didn't want too long of a swim for fear of stressing him or him getting too cold. I'll try the branch trick tho.

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I did a quick swim then let him move around my hands while holding a warm washcloth. Didn't want too long of a swim for fear of stressing him or him getting too cold. I'll try the branch trick tho.

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Maybe do frequent water sprays in her Viv / rub .

I have done the occasional 25 minute soak , in 86F temp water , in a sealed container - obviously leaving air space at the top but if it's a few inches deep they tend to happily spend most of the time underwater.

I have a container that has clasps on the top so it's safe to place it in the towel cupboard - which is warm and dark .

They wiggle about looking to escape for a minute or two but quickly calm down . On release I have a wet , rough textured towel ready and let the snake slither continually through the towel , when it's head appears I simply cover it up with the towel .

Anyways after the soak any dead skin or retained eye-caps simply cokes off on the towel ( has to be rough textured obviously ..


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So with the 3 T25, what's the plans with the empty enclosures?

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Going to put a Gila Monster in one and probably either a Pucallpa Peruvian BCC or a Peruvian Long tail BCL.

Well Caesar had his first guinea pig and he went bonkers for it. He usually will coil a rat, then release it and check it out for a few mins. The guinea pig, he slammed it and wrapped that thing up tight and started eating lol. After he was done, he didn't look around for more like with his jumbo rats, he just slowly wandered to the back under the shelf haha. Looks like 443g 2XL guinea pigs and rabbit equivalents are his new meal.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...679b1caf_h.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...995d79ec_h.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...4228ee78_h.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...7d6f3041_h.jpg

Caesar is quite nice impressive!

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Caesar is quite nice impressive!

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Thanks. He has definitely grown. I look at the pics of my holding him with one hand at 5 months old and then i look at him in his cage and its like night and day for his size.

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Thanks. He has definitely grown. I look at the pics of my holding him with one hand at 5 months old and then i look at him in his cage and its like night and day for his size.

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It happens fast.

I'll have had Wallace for 1 year this September and the size difference between then and now is unreal.

He looks great, his colors just seem to glow.

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He looks great, his colors just seem to glow.

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Yeah he's usually pretty bright. He seems fairly happy most of the time. Think he was extra bright as he never had a guinea pig before and judging by his "MINE!!" grip followed by not even inspecting it like with his rats and instead just gulping it down with gusto, i think he likes them. He's happy and full now lol.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...bea374aa_h.jpg

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Yeah he's usually pretty bright. He seems fairly happy most of the time. Think he was extra bright as he never had a guinea pig before and judging by his "MINE!!" grip followed by not even inspecting it like with his rats and instead just gulping it down with gusto, i think he likes them. He's happy and full now lol.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...bea374aa_h.jpg

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He loves his new house so much he's glowing!

Looking good as always. I've been wanting to try a GP for Levi but the last couple shows I went to they've been sold out

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Looking good as always. I've been wanting to try a GP for Levi but the last couple shows I went to they've been sold out

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Yeah the gal at the reptile shop about an hour from me has quails, chicks, guinea pigs, rats, mice and african soft furs. She has rabbits too but the smaller ones sell out pretty fast.

I say definitely try it. Caesar LOVED his guinea pig but then again Caesar loves anything except rats, where he will check it out first before eating. Anything else and he doesnt pause lol.

I'm really excited to see how Caesar comes out. I think Kris gave him a smaller top end for him than he gave me for Wallace which is a little frightening LOL!

I have my new rollaway cage stand for all of my 4 foot cages. My best buddy built it for me and it's awesome. Rhino Liner black, and high quality casters for easy movement.

I'm tempted to kick Wallace into high gear like Caesar but I honestly want the SD x Dwarf to remain and not see more than a 9-10 foot animal.

If beautiful Caesar tops out there I'll be very confident Wallace will stay in that range.

I was extremely excited when Sauzo snatched up Caesar shortly after I got Wallace and I've always followed JMcrook and Phyllis.

Those are pretty much my retic brothers.

I really miss Cody "Reptile experts" here. There is NO substitute for REAL biology and understanding of the species you keep. Cody was and is an asset to anybody who keeps reticulated pythons no matter what the species or subspecies.

I'd venture to say he was on his way to being a modern day Gus Rentfro in the realm of retics.

Anyhow, back to Caesar, he's being fed a lot, A LOT more than Wallace and it will be interesting to see how much SD x Dwarf percentages play a role no matter what the feeding regime is.

I forget that Caesar has the Tiger Gene as well, and I believe the Albino gene has also been identified with size.



Wallace isn't anything magical. He's Tiger, Anery and some other stuff (purple and snow) and I don't mush care what else.

I want to see where these guys come out.

I guess when it comes down to it, Caesar and Wallace are brothers to me. Phyllis is not related but JmCrook is such a cool guy that I lump him in with the two of us. We all came together around the same time.

I got long winded here and actually forgot my point, but since its a Caesar thread, I think he looks great. I hope he hits 10' and stays at 30-35 pounds.

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I'm really excited to see how Caesar comes out. I think Kris gave him a smaller top end for him than he gave me for Wallace which is a little frightening LOL!

I have my new rollaway cage stand for all of my 4 foot cages. My best buddy built it for me and it's awesome. Rhino Liner black, and high quality casters for easy movement.

I'm tempted to kick Wallace into high gear like Caesar but I honestly want the SD x Dwarf to remain and not see more than a 9-10 foot animal.

If beautiful Caesar tops out there I'll be very confident Wallace will stay in that range.

I was extremely excited when Sauzo snatched up Caesar shortly after I got Wallace and I've always followed JMcrook and Phyllis.

Those are pretty much my retic brothers.

I really miss Cody "Reptile experts" here. There is NO substitute for REAL biology and understanding of the species you keep. Cody was and is an asset to anybody who keeps reticulated pythons no matter what the species or subspecies.

I'd venture to say he was on his way to being a modern day Gus Rentfro in the realm of retics.

Anyhow, back to Caesar, he's being fed a lot, A LOT more than Wallace and it will be interesting to see how much SD x Dwarf percentages play a role no matter what the feeding regime is.

I forget that Caesar has the Tiger Gene as well, and I believe the Albino gene has also been identified with size.



Wallace isn't anything magical. He's Tiger, Anery and some other stuff (purple and snow) and I don't mush care what else.

I want to see where these guys come out.

I guess when it comes down to it, Caesar and Wallace are brothers to me. Phyllis is not related but JmCrook is such a cool guy that I lump him in with the two of us. We all came together around the same time.

I got long winded here and actually forgot my point, but since its a Caesar thread, I think he looks great. I hope he hits 10' and stays at 30-35 pounds.

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Thanks and you and me both. I hope Caesar stays 10' too lol.

Not sure what Kris told you Wallace should top out at but Caesar was 7'. He's just about that now. I havent measured him as that would pretty much be impossible haha but when he stretches out on his shelf, i just add what is hanging off or folded back and eyeball it to a side wall of the cage and guesstimate.

Kris might be pretty close as Caesar used to shed like crazy but now, his last shed i believe was at least a couple months ago or at least it feels like it.

He's closing in on 1 year 3 months old and like i said, he doesnt seem to be getting longer. He is definitely filling out though in the body and also in the face. His face is much wider and flatter now where as a baby he had a much narrower and rounder face with big baby eye.

I only feed Caesar like i do because he kind of dictates it. Like i said, i tried to go 2 weeks without food and it was a mistake. He chewed up half the front of his face some and has about 3-4 scrapes on the bottom of his chin. He also managed to hurt a couple of his belly scales I'm guessing from trying to wedge himself to get leverage to push with his face. Overall it was a very failed experiment. That's why he seems to need to eat every 7-10 days. Funny part is he doesnt get all sketchy when hungry like he is going to attack. He keeps the same personality and cruises to the front and sits there on the litter dam while i pet him. He is really a well behaved snake other than the pushing when hungry.

And yeah Caesar is albino, tiger het snow so means anery too. Not like i plan to breed him anyways.

You should post a pic of your stand. I'd like to see it. If i had my cages on a solid floor, i probably would have seen what AP could have done with putting their casters on their 8" stands. But the snake room is carpeted so rolling cage stacks across the carpet would probably end with a tipping lol.

And too bad Cody didnt get into Heloderma aka Gila and Beaded Lizards. I've always wanted one and I'm trying to research as much as i can about them as I'm hoping to find some late hatchlings or juveniles around September or just wait until November or so for the next batch to start being put up for sale.

Personally if Wallace is happy with his feeding schedule, i would keep it like that. Kris told me Caesar LOVED to eat when he sent him to me and he wasnt kidding. He eats anything anytime, even in shed. I imagine him as 'that' guy who would be eating a cheeseburger while on on the can and i bet Caesar would eat while pooping if i timed offering him food at the right moment lol.

If Caesar gets a little bigger, I'm not too worried as like i said, he is a very well mannered snake which is surprising for how willing and happy he is to eat. If he doesnt smell food, i guess it doesnt kick in his drive but once he smells food, like the boas, all trust goes out the window lol. My only problem with getting bigger is I'm not sure a 6x3 is enough for a 10-12' snake. I would have to get a 8x3 which wouldnt fit very well in the room without rearranging the computer and everything else. Here's another pic of Caesar enjoying himself with his door left half open as Vicky, Rosey and Caesar all love a door left open so they can hang out or rest their head on the litter dam lol. Looks like he has a smile on his face haha.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...01a61bac_h.jpg

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Yeah the gal at the reptile shop about an hour from me has quails, chicks, guinea pigs, rats, mice and african soft furs. She has rabbits too but the smaller ones sell out pretty fast.

I say definitely try it. Caesar LOVED his guinea pig but then again Caesar loves anything except rats, where he will check it out first before eating. Anything else and he doesnt pause lol.

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Levi has been starting to care less for rats. He used to be an eating machine as well but doesn't seem to get too excited over rats anymore. Still eats them but not the way he used to lol. One of the local pet shop here has rabbits, guinea pigs, etc. But feeders from pet shops are so expensive but buying one or two there just to try it out won't hurt. I'm pretty excited to finish all the rats in my freezer to order a cooler of rabbits and piglets from monster feeders.

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Levi has been starting to care less for rats. He used to be an eating machine as well but doesn't seem to get too excited over rats anymore. Still eats them but not the way he used to lol. One of the local pet shop here has rabbits, guinea pigs, etc. But feeders from pet shops are so expensive but buying one or two there just to try it out won't hurt. I'm pretty excited to finish all the rats in my freezer to order a cooler of rabbits and piglets from monster feeders.

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Lol tell me about it. I go through at least $100 a month for food for everyone. Try keeping a beardie happy with hornworms. I spend about $16 per 20 hornworms and Harley can down 20 in 2 days at most if i let her. She puts the snakes to shame about eating haha. Also if anyone tells you beardies are easy to care for, they are lying. They take a lot of work but they are very interactive. More so than any snake lol.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...da39f9ef_h.jpg

Havent posted a pic of Caesar in awhile. So since I'm recovering from a cold in summer( yeah I know), figured I'd snap a quick pic of Caesar sleeping up on his shelf today.

I cant believe how fast he digests food. I fed him a guinea pig on Friday and he took a huge poop last night which he made very apparent by beating on the front door of the cage until I opened the door, pet him and cleaned it. He just sat at the open door under my arm while I scooped out everything and then F10SC the spot. He is such a 'needy' snake lol. And I think he getting ready to shed as his head is starting to get wrinkly behind the neck. He needs to stop growing as I don't really have a spot for a T65 haha.
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Got a few more of him as he seemed pretty relaxed and lazy up top there lol.
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Awesome. So after the fiasco of being sick and learning that Dottie figured out how to slide open her cage door and finding her under the Tv table with her rump hanging out, Caesar has learned how to open his door kind of. I hear a 'thunk' sound and i go over to see that Caesar has managed to pull one of the doors out of the side track about 1/8". And was looking at how to get his head in there to work it back enough to fit his body in to slide the door open lol. So it looks like i have to use a lock on his cage too haha. Good thing i ordered all the AP cages with locks installed.

I feel like everyone is getting sick. I am day two of whatever I have and it sucks. Funny that Dottie your pet rock was the one who made it out. I sometimes forget I have two snakes, Tina's T8 always looks empty besides hides and plants. I never see her.

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I feel like everyone is getting sick. I am day two of whatever I have and it sucks. Funny that Dottie your pet rock was the one who made it out. I sometimes forget I have two snakes, Tina's T8 always looks empty besides hides and plants. I never see her.

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Haha yeah, Dottie is actually a very active snake at night. During the day, she is a rock unless you leave a door open in her cage. She smells that 'freedom' and comes out of the hide and lowers herself to the floor and explores. She cant resist the urge to explore be it daytime or nighttime haha. Or maybe she hungry but she just ate 6 days ago. I am surprised how inquisitive she is. She cares less to sit on me but given the chance to explore, she is all for it.

And yeah this cold is kicking my keester. Started as a sore throat and little body ache. Then the sore throat went away and it became a fever with coughing and flem in the lungs. Now i dont have so much of a fever but i am hacking flem all over and have no energy whatsoever. I talked to Ali a couple days ago as one of my T8 lights burnt out so she sent me replacement prototype water resistant ones they are working with and her kid i guess has the same cold i got.

I worked from home today and opened both enclosures. Needless to day Gene spent 2 hours wondering around the apartment. He never goes under the couches, just wonders around like an old man. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...18724a093b.jpg

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I worked from home today and opened both enclosures. Needless to day Gene spent 2 hours wondering around the apartment. He never goes under the couches, just wonders around like an old man. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...18724a093b.jpg

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Haha yeah i let the boas wander around but they dont go far. They come out of the cage and usually sit on top of the tubs and Reptichips blocks to the side of the cage stacks. Rosey has it down pretty good but Vicky is still kind of confused how open tubs work as she crawls into them and they flip up their side and bonk her in the head. She kind of freaks out and backs up and the tub drops down. She looks around and tries again and does it again lol. Then she ends up just climbing up on top of the closed tub stack and Reptichip block stack and sits up there.

Caesar is just so much more active. I'd have to kind of snake proof the room as i got a couple tables that have open backs down at the bottom that he could get into and would be kind of a pain to move. Plus i havent had Caesar as long as you've had Gene so he's probably not as laid back.

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I gotta give props to the Retic Regulators :). You all have some AMAZING animals. Hats off. :snake: :bow:

Well I decided to let Caesar climb down from his cage to the floor and see what he did. He was a fairly good boy. He climbed around and knocked stuff down so I couldn't really get good pics of him on stuff but I did get some ok pics of him on the floor.
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Man, it's hard to believe it's almost been a year I've had Caesar. I was looking through his pics and he was so cute as a baby. Now he is so big.....him when i got him
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And him now....
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Can't believe how much he has grown and changed. He's still a giant baby though and has never tried to bite or hiss at me. Although we did get into a shoving match tonight when he was sleeping next to a pile of piss i was trying to clean up. I was shoving him over and he kept shoving me back lol. After about 6 times, he moved and looked at me. I then gave him a nice big shove and he moved. I think he was trying to see who would win the shoving match...i did :P

Beautiful snakes for sure !


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