Most doctile snakes? I think not.

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Originally Posted by Faber

like i said ill consider it, but a 110 gallon isnt something you put under your arm to move around, and you wouldn't even suggest it as the snake grows? i just don't understand the difference between a small tank with 1-2 hides or a big tank with 5-6 hides.

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The difference is being able to maintain a healthy environment. You will need a thermometer with a probe for each hide and measure the ambient temperature at 3 or 4 points in the enclosure. Then you need to provide a temp gradient from 93* to 83*. This means multiple UTHs. You would probably need to cover the bottom with them if you wanted to avoid humidity sucking lamps. And all of these heat sources MUST be controlled with a thermostat or else you could cook your snake.

That is difficult, expensive, and you don't need to do all that work for one snake. You will find yourself spending much more than $40 to make a 110g work as a suitable environment for your snake.

Let's not let this thread go where some of the latest ones have gone, way off course.

There's no need to argue in instances like this.

I want to welcome you to the forum, and hope that your animal thrives in your care. I also hope you find this forum to be a good one with caring, passionate people.

Trevor

Hi,

If you can get the temps and humiditry right then you can certainly try it - it's just a bit trickier with larger glass tanks is all.

Usually it involves covering one side and both ends and then putting insualating material on the outside of that and treating the screen lid with tinfoil to hold in humidity.

But at the end of the day it is all going to circle back around to how secure your individual snake feels in the enclosure.

We are guessing it isn't happy at the moment from the description of its behaviour you are giving us - and we are suggesting the easiest practical steps we can think of to fix that as best we can.

It is possible you can tweak your 110g tank to make it a great place for the lil guy - or you could spend weeks and a buttload of cash to find out he still doesn't feel secure.

It's just that we know it will be a lot cheaper and easier to do it in the smaller tank.

There are, as has been stated on here many times, a lot of different ways to keep these snakes.

As a forum we tend to recommend a good basic one that can be achieved cheaply and will work in most cases.

Once you get to know your little guy better and be able to read his actions then you can try something a little less orthodox and see how he takes to it.

And of course, if he is already settled and used to you there is no reason why you couldn't try him in the 110g farther down the road and see if he copes better.


dr del

Dr.Del dude you're a genius. I'm glad you can pinpoint facts instead of reflecting your opinions on me. I'm thinking i might replace the 110 with a 20L in the colder months, and keep it like it is in the summer, it gives a better temperature range, its like havin a 55g hot spot and a 55g cold spot.(which im sure is too big) and my main concern is that i would have to go back out and buy more uth's and i would need a place to store my 110. Also im probably going to buy a couple more smaller hides for him. Dr.Del whats you opinion on handling? Should i wait a few more weeks when he's been fed multiple times, or should i just handle my way through the agression?

Faber, I think it is best to listen to everyone.

A 110gal aquarium isn't suggested for housing an adult(5 foot) ball python. A floor size of 36 inches by 18 inches is suggested for adult(big) ball pythons in many books and care sheets.

Kaorte(one of the other users replying to this thread) has replied to this thread many times because she cares about the well being of your snake as we all do.

For a small/baby ball python, I think you are definately on the wrong track.

On the other hand, the 110 gallon tank makes an excellent display tank. I plan on having similar displays for my boas when they get bigger.

Yea im listening to all of you guys for sure, and Kaorte included. This is going to upset alot of people but whatever happened to general adaptation? If most of the things is right (temos, humidity, hides) then why is tank size such a big deal?

Mine sometimes hisses at me when im trying to pick it up and its also in the striking position but as soon as i pick it up it calms down...

Its not a big deal, but the temps and hides and humidity is what is hard to maintain.

Faber, after all of this I would really like to know more details about your setup. What are you using to measure the temps and humidity? What kind of thermometers? What kind of hygrometers? What kind of thermostat are you using? What kind of hides are you using and how many exactly do you have? Do you have any fake plants in the enclosure? What kind of tank top do you have? Is it a full screen top?

Since you really want to keep this 110g, why don't you allow us to help you make it an ideal enclosure for your baby?

Im going to try to get more pictures up but my blackberry is actin up

Hey i just wanted to let you all know that i just held my baby for about 2-3 minutes and he was balled up, there was only one instance when he was fiesty but it was my fault cause i moved my hand infront of him working ym way under, but he's definatly getting better!, im still working on my tank now cause you guys got me all worried im neglectin to poor guy, but i just wanted to let you know were making progress, this time he balled up in my hand, i only held him for about three minutes though because he was gettin a little anxious.