How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

josh as far as health of my animals..ive got Many many many animals well over 10 years old and quite a few that are over 20 years old they all eat the same way i feed most everything else...
And dont worry the snakes that eat 2 large rats a week are WAY over 3-5 pounds...
breeders here are usually 5 pounds minimum

as to who i am or proof as to what I have or what im saying Just ask a few folks on this site...quite a few folks here have alot of animals from me ;)

and Do i have a website...nope...dont really like even posting on the forums to be honest...but i cruise thru a few read a cpl of posts and if i have something constructive to add or if i can help out I do...

but now when i come on post good advice for someone that is obviously having a prob or doing something wrong and i make a joke and everyone starts attacking me for it...well I will reply and defend myself..if you have any doubts about my collection or my experience if your ever in kentucky feel free to stop by and ill let ya check out everything here!Or feel free to ask any of the other Ky folks that post on here im sure they can vouch for what im saying

And rab thank ya kindly for your words there I do appreciate it and the rabbit pic..jsut something funny ,Huge snake small rabbit made for a funny photo op!! how could ya pass up on that...

as for the rest of BS..ehh whatever take it for what it is...

Adam large collection live is the only way to go saves time and alot of money...wish i had the means to go into full scale rat production so i could use my freezers for nothing but food...But wife would kill me if i set up a large rat colony lol nad small is the way to go when ya feed live...can do singles or multiples and it makes things soo much easier in the aftermath of egg season..I live for the days when larry calls me to come empty his rat bins LOL nothing like being able to go thru 75-100 rats in about 15 minutes LOL

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for him coming outta no where... Anyone could make up a name, come on here say they have all this experience. Does that mean I believe them? Def. not. If hes got a website or something proving that he actually owns what he says he does then I'll listen to him. Its nice that you know him but theres many other posters like myself who have no idea who this guy is. Hes been a memeber for a yr and only made 18 posts what else are we supposed to think?

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First of all, he didn't come out of nowhere. You said yourself he has been here for a year, so that puts him here 3 times as long as you.
He didn't "make up a name". He is a name that is well respected in other comminities, for not only his husbandry,but his attention to detail, and ability to selectively breed like no other.
I dont think you have to believe him. I would hope that you would not skip over all of his posts because you don't like what he said in one thread though. I think there is a lot that can be learned if you can take off your blinders.Perhaps you could teach him a thing or two along the way as well.
I love that one of your criteria for being credible is that he has to have a site. I can think of a few names that everyone knows that had websites that weren't exactly the best to get info from, or to buy animals from. I am sure the BOI contains a few more than I can think of!
As for his 18 posts...Posting does not equate to knowledge. There are people here who have more than 470 posts in 4 months, and looking back at some of those posts, I wonder how many it would take to add up to what Chris has added with his.
Think what you want. If you want others to guide you in your thought process, you may be in the right place!

One more thing...We can guess all day about what the biggest prey item they eat in Africa is. As this picture shows, there are some food items in Africa that are larger than we commonly see, and being opportunistic I think if given the choice between going another month hungry, and eating that item that is too big, the ball will choose the big food.
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/124...4121MrTQ_w.jpg

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for him coming outta no where... Anyone could make up a name, come on here say they have all this experience. Does that mean I believe them? Def. not. If hes got a website or something proving that he actually owns what he says he does then I'll listen to him. Its nice that you know him but theres many other posters like myself who have no idea who this guy is. Hes been a memeber for a yr and only made 18 posts what else are we supposed to think?

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Thats funny because i own SEVERAL animals from Gib ( Chris ) and consider him a friend. as i believe several people here also can say the same about him. Ill stand behind him 100% in his experience and knowledge of ball pythons.

The fact that you would have the gall to make such an uneducated post without actually doing a little research on a user you are making such a post against is just simply amusing. I think i prefer the comfort of the pack.... at least a little thing like research never got in the way of their intelligence :rofl::rofl:

I’ll go ahead and stick my nose in on this one even though I’m fairly new here too and the majority of you don’t have a clue as to who I am – I don’t have a website or even a Myspace page…LOL…I start my babies out on rat pups – Pups not pinkies…Pinkies are for Corn snakes not Pythons…If I can’t get them to take rat pups within a few weeks then I try small adult mice…The fast movement from mice is usually what triggers the feeding response in my holdout babies…After a few mice they usually switch over to rat pups…I feed my yearlings smalls and my adults either get smalls or mediums – Live…It’s usually smalls though – I breed my own rats and usually I don’t have enough to let grow up to mediums…I either feed multiples or twice a week…Adult males get smalls every 10 days – Lean males are better breeders for me…I do have several monster females that get F/T larges once a week to every 10 days…I also have several breeder females that eat mice…IMO – Mice suck…It’s time consuming to feed an adult breeder females 5 large mice a feeding - Twice a week to put her weight back on after laying eggs…Not mention breeding mice sucks worse – They stink a whole lot worse than rats…My mice eating females (with the exception of one female) lay smaller clutches than my rat eaters…They take longer to gain their weight back after laying – Did I mention mice stink? I feed to breed if that makes sense – I feed the majority of my collection small meals multiple times a week…I learned a long – long time ago from raising and breeding Colubrids that it’s easier and faster to digest a smaller meal than a larger meal and if you can keep food in their stomach from multiple smaller food items you’ll get better growth than by feeding a big meal once a week…In all seriousness – Do what works for you…That’s what’s worked for me in the past and if it ain’t broke – I ain’t fixing it…There’s a reason I (and many – many others) can get young (and I mean young) males to breed and produce fertile clutches…There’s a reason 95% of my females produce every year and don’t need to “skip” a year in production…IMO – I believe I can achieve these things because the husbandry practices that I use produce thriving snakes – The proofs in the pudding so to say…To those that are feeding pinkies – Grab some small mice or rat pups for your BP and give the pinkies to the Corns…To those that are feeding hoppers to snakes that are a few months old make the switch to large adult mice or weanling rat pups…Get your nose out of the books and get in your snake room – They’ll teach you more than any book ever will…For the record – I have a modest collection of BP’s (125 keepers – plus or minus a few)…I also keep a handful of Boas, Womas, JCP’s and Borneo Shortails…Yep – I even have some Corn snakes too – They get the pinkies…LOL…
BT

My comment would be that membership in BPNet is not the only determining factor when you judge someone's opinion as valid or not valid to you personally. BPNet is growing a lot, we are blessed to welcome a number of new members recently and I would hope to see that trend continue.

Those members may have little to no experience or years upon years of working with a large collection. Just because their post count is whatever and their join date is last week does not make what they say invalid Josh. It's always smart to take what one reads and then go forward doing your own research to help you decide if you wish to follow a piece of advice presented on a forum. However, it's not smart to just toss someone's words back in their face because you personally don't know them. That's more about personal ego than smart decision making as far as I'm concerned.

For me, I'll take Gib's wisdom as I've done with Kara's, Adam's, Tim's, etc. I'll add it to the information I already have and appreciate it being shared with me. That doesn't mean I'll automatically nod and agree, or argue and disagree. It just means it's information. In the end, it's my collection, my experience level, my comfort level that always will determine what I do with any information I take in. :)

Ight so you all seem to be missing the SIMPLE facts here... anyone can come on here and pretend to be a educated snake owner can they not?... the website was just an example. Did I say bc he doesnt have a website he must not know anything about snakes? Naw def not. Most... again I didnt do any research here ... most well know breeders have a website of some sort where they sell their snakes... As far as research... i dont need research to point out the obvious... Did I say bc hes only made 18 posts he must not know anything about snakes? No that was simply saysing that he could be a 14 yr old messing around on the computer... happens all the time. What I think is funny is Davey Fig joins today to support this guy... and mooings been a member for 2 yrs and comes out of the wood work as well... Just out of curiosity where did I say bc hes only been a member for a yr and made 18posts so he doesnt know anything? You wont find it bc I never said it... It was mere observation after scrolling over this thread for like 2 mins... I guess next time I need to research 2 hrs to point out the obvious?

I remember why I was never a big forum poster...Good luck - See you guys around...
BT

Yes, but Gib is well known in the community Josh. If he were a troll trying to stir things up, I think the people here would have taken a little more intitiative. Everyone is saying that he is well known, and to always take everything you read with a grain of salt.

He has already stated that the monster female he feeds large meals to only feeds a few months a year. He knows his animals, and he finds it best to feed her when he can before she goes off feed.

Adam says he has tried both ways, and he prefers small meals for his animals. It works for him, and has for years. Except you don't see Gib tearing Adam apart, or Adam doing that to him.



BT, co-host of reptile radio, rebel from the south, he says he likes his males lean. He gets these youngin boys to breed for him consistently. He's doing something right for his bunch of animals.

Again, everyone is different, and only time and experience can tell you what works for you and your animals. I think Franky, Rabernet, and many others have said it well. Just take a step back, and chew on everything you read, and find your niche.

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And as to posting, I think your relying a little too much on that. Look at me, 1400 some posts in 9 months. I love the community here, and I like to be apart of this by actively posting. Some things I feel very strongly about, but pick your battles.

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I'm not telling anyone how to feed their own snakes, nor am I suggesting that anyone doing things differently is wrong ... I'm only sharing the way I do things and what works for me ... take it for what it's worth.

The good news is that there is no ONE WAY to care for these animals ... some people use paper, some use mulch ... some feed at night, some feed during the day ... some feed large, and some feed small ... the important thing is that the animals are being cared for and that we all share this common bond ... we love these magnificent creatures! :sweeet:

humbly,
-adam

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Thank you Adam. Very well said.