Help! Burn or Scale Rot?

You know you're a herper when:

You get that vet bill and think "money well spent"

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Lucky for the leo, not so lucky for your poor snake. :( A pet rock would have been more appropriate for you.

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Yeah I do have a pet rock I keep in my snakes enclosure, it's the heated kind, I put it there so my snake could get a good sun burn.

Robin, go back into your hide with your little snakes or what ever it is you have, in your little podunk residence.

How old are you? :confused:

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She's never been to this pet store where he's at, and everytime I asked her if she wanted to go with me there, she's refused, because I told her it's quite smelly, and it looks like they do not clean the cages regularly.

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Ahh so the solution was to dump your problem off on the pet store you yourself describe as I bolded above? Lovely...well there's a snake that's destined to do really well.

End of my participation in this thread. It's absolutely pointless to attempt to educate someone who refuses knowledge or believes himself, with no actual experience, to already know all he needs to know. I'll just content myself with our 21 perfectly healthy, burn and belly rot free snakes that I am fully aware don't know me from a block of wood. That knowledge however doesn't free me from the responsibility of caring about them. :)

[QUOTE=beachvibesbyeff] Why do you all own a snake? What's the point? You all act like it needs more and better care than a Golden Retriever. Let me tell you, it DOESN'T. No matter how much you clean its cage or supply the "perfect living environment," it's not going to show any affection towards you or become friendlier. No matter how much you tell yourselves, your ball pythons do not like you. They are not companions.


My snakes are members of my family, as are my dogs, my cats, and my birds. I have them because I hold a great interest in them and I love and care for them as I do all my animals. All my animals get the best care possible, CLEAN living areas, good food, LOVE, ATTENTION, fresh water every day, and visits to the VET when needed and necessary (checkups, shots, whatever is routinely required and for whatever issues may pop up along the way), required husbandry/correct housing, etc. etc. etc. This goes for all my animals which are taken care of as well as my kids are taken care of. My snakes get as good care as my dogs which get as good care as my kids. And you know what, even though my snakes may not ever show an ounce of affection or love or appreciation....whatever....I am happy to know that they are happy and well taken care of, that they are healthy and that I can provide them with comfortable homes where they will not have to stress or live in a stinky cage or have to sleep in their own wastes.

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And for your information, mine has under fine conditions

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If it was in such "fine conditions" it would not have been burnt and we would not be discussing all this in this thread now would we????

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As for the thermostat, my friend who sold it to me, said you didn't need it...he said keep the U.T.H. under the tank, and use two sheets of newspaper as substrate, provide a hide on the hot side, and a water dish on the cool side, and you will be fine...this coming from a 19 year old kid who owns over 100 snakes, has his own snake room, and has even had at one point, a King Cobra.

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Well obviously you did need a thermostat because otherwise your BP would not have gotten burned, and would not be suffering in your hands. There have been many knowledgeable people on this site that have told you what you needed to do for your snake, many who have themselves probably been keeping snakes longer than your friend has been alive. And a King Cobra has nothing to do with owning a BP.

I will say again that your snake deserves better, someone who will give it the attention and care that it needs and deserves. Someone who will take it to a qualified herp vet when necessary, as that is what it needs right now. It needs treatment in a clean environment, not stuck in the backroom of some dirty petstore to be treated by someone that can't even correctly keep clean environments for snakes that they are trying to sell. Such a shame!! They may be just ball pythons or just snakes like you seem to want to strongly imply, but to the majority of us on this site, they are also loved, special family members. They are living creatures to be respected and taken care of with the best care possible. They are each unique, with their own personalities, that bring joy to many of us here.

**Sorry this was so long**

Unfortunately, this thread has done nothing but make every member of BP.net cringe and feel absolutely terrible for this person's mother and snake. I think other members, like myself, feel like banging our heads against a wall after reading some of the things this person has posted.

What makes BP.net so fantastic, is that it's a great resource for beginner-level people to learn what they need to know in order to keep their reptiles happy and healthy. We have members who keep hundreds (or thousands!) of snakes and other reptiles, who are willing to answer questions and give advice. We often have people come to the site looking for help (as this person indicated she was doing with "Help! Burn or Scale Rot?" as the title of her post). Many of the people who come looking for help actually are and take into consideration what the members of this site have to say. Many beginners are actually grateful for the advice, because it helps keep their pets healthy.

When someone comes asking for help, then throws that help back in the faces of those who offered it, it infuriates me. Everything this person has said has indicated that she doesn't care about her snake enough to ensure that it has a correct living environment. Doing the bare minimum isn't enough. Researching before you buy your animal to make sure you are capable of caring for it is key--not everyone does this. But many who don't are still willing to listen to advice--this person isn't.

It's a sad circumstance that this person owns any animal. I hope that when she decides that she's no longer interested, the snake gets rehomed somewhere that it's going to be cared for properly.

So please, hon: Grow up. Get a clue. Try and research before you jump into something you're not prepared for. Have some respect for other human beings and for your pets.

My only input to this is... After all the personal jests made at people here and the overall viciousness that this thread has gotten to... Why hasn't someone just banned beachvibesbyeff yet as this just isn't constructive.

He's been given great advice he failed to take, I doubt he'll take it in the future because apparently a degree makes you smarter - that's BS... I have one and there was only *ONE* class in my entire 4 year double honours university that actually taught me anything - ONE class. Schooling doesn't qualify you as a better person BTW.

Secondly, there have been other arguments around here, but they don't resort to speculation about member's weights, or about their IQ or education level, and the certainly don't tell other members to go find a hide cave.

Third, I'm totally playing the Mom today, but if you're not going to be constructive and considerate of others then just get it out... People seem to like chilling out here and spending their free time chatting - they don't need to be insulted by someone unwilling to care for their animal who obviously doesn't want the help anyway.

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Originally Posted by beachvibesbyeff

he doesn't know much about snakes,

If the snake chooses to lay around in its own feces, so be it, they should have the IQ to go in a corner, where they do not roam.

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sounds like your the one that doesnt know much

how much research did you do? (none most probably)and as for the affection part and why you think they are pointless
why did you get one mabye because you thought it would be cool to feed it i dont know but
by the sounds of it you need to grow up ( name calling )and take some responsibility

just felt i had to say something thought by the looks of it im to late

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Originally Posted by GirDance

My only input to this is... After all the personal jests made at people here and the overall viciousness that this thread has gotten to... Why hasn't someone just banned beachvibesbyeff yet as this just isn't constructive.

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Hon, if I remember my Mod days since Beach is now at a "reptile dysfunction" level that means they are in moderated status which basically means nothing they post can appear until it's been read over by a Mod or Admin for abusive language, inappropriate content, etc. Banning isn't something this forum does unless push really comes to shove and that's how it should be.

As far as the personal insults directed my way, it's no big deal to me. I've been called far worse by far better people LOL. This is a very young person, hell I have a daughter this age though she's been taught far better manners, so although it's unacceptable public behaviour there's an allowance in my mind that perhaps this is just age speaking without any real wisdom to guide it.

If nothing else, perhaps this thread will serve to show our newer members all the things one should NOT do when entrusted with the wellbeing of any living creature. :)

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Originally Posted by GirDance

My only input to this is... After all the personal jests made at people here and the overall viciousness that this thread has gotten to... Why hasn't someone just banned beachvibesbyeff yet as this just isn't constructive.

He's been given great advice he failed to take, I doubt he'll take it in the future because apparently a degree makes you smarter - that's BS... I have one and there was only *ONE* class in my entire 4 year double honours university that actually taught me anything - ONE class. Schooling doesn't qualify you as a better person BTW.

Secondly, there have been other arguments around here, but they don't resort to speculation about member's weights, or about their IQ or education level, and the certainly don't tell other members to go find a hide cave.

Third, I'm totally playing the Mom today, but if you're not going to be constructive and considerate of others then just get it out... People seem to like chilling out here and spending their free time chatting - they don't need to be insulted by someone unwilling to care for their animal who obviously doesn't want the help anyway.

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I agree, Beachvibesbyeff should be banned. Not only is he rude to people on this forum, and not only is he disrespecting him own mother, and not only is he refusing advice from others, but he's not taking proper care of HIS snake. IMHO, This attitude he is showing makes me sick. I vote for :banned1: