PETA members "get it"

What beautiful toes, Leeshie!

Whether the quotes are old or not, animal rights extremists (many who are affiliated with or support PeTA) are complete wackos in my opinion, and will never, ever get my support in any way, shape or form. There are many fantastic animal welfare groups that are far more deserving.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

What beautiful toes, Leeshie!

Whether the quotes are old or not, animal rights extremists (many who are affiliated with or support PeTA) are complete wackos in my opinion, and will never, ever get my support in any way, shape or form. There are many fantastic animal welfare groups that are far more deserving.

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thanks :D i agree... on both parts of your post!

Accusing me of having an agenda.. that's pretty funny. I no more have an "agenda" than any other human in the world who dislikes to have people threaten to blow up their home because they bred dogs.
Again, you see all these quotes.. but it's not PETA.. because they are "outdated" despite the fact that most of the quoters are PETA employed. Newkirk is the president. I don't doubt there are well-minded individuals, but I won't support the organization that gives money to ALF, defends arsonists, or rewards arsonists and vandalizers. Sorry. Ain't happening. When they come to your house to remove your animals, then maybe you'll cheer them.
I support spaying and neutering, I've sponsered a low cost trip through my rural area, in additonal to nearly 2 years of rabies clinics. I do not support the fur industry, unless the harvest is humane, the animals humanely cared for, OR culled from the wild in a humane fashion. That means mink, fox and the such farms, I don't support. I don't LIKE the idea of killing a animal for JUST its skin. That's also why I support leather. We eat the cow, use its skin.
I support responsible pet ownership. PETA doesn't. And there is that "dogs living in the wild" statement again. Gonna turn loose pets to survive or starve? Yeah, THAT'S ethical. Just as ethical as the turning loose of minks to starve and be maimed becasue they cannot survive.
Everyone has the right to their opinion. But I don't have the right to come to your house and steal your pets, jsut because I think no one should own them. Neither does PETA have the right to do similar acts.
PETA supporting terrist attacks against places has NOTHING to do with pet overpopulation. That's a seperate issue.
By the way, I was at a medieval faire today with a LIVE ELEPHANT ride that I support. Why? Because Judy has a great life, she's 49 years old, and gets to go work a few weekends a year, giving kids rides. She has a great home to live at on acreage and she lets everyone know how truely COOL elephants are. She is well-treated and there isn't a thing wrong with them owning her and taking such wonderful care of her.
Does that mean I support cruel treatment of elephants in traveling circuses where they beat them? No it don't. In other words, I support RESPONSIBLE pet ownership. (Although calling an elephant a pet is really stretching the term)
I'm keeping my pets, keeping my snakes, and keeping my lizards. I won't give PETA a dime.
Wolfy

Try this link. Interesting reading.



http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/21

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Originally Posted by jhall1468

Ingrid is a kook, but she also happens to be President of PETA. Whether or not all of the organizations members agree with her is moot. She speaks for PETA as a whole.

And yes, the quotes are dated, which is exactly my point. PETA calls it a myth that they don't support pet ownership, yet it was their President's comments that perpetuated that myth. It's akin to me saying "That Jamie guy really sucks," and then claiming it was a myth perpetuated by people that don't like me, 15 years later.

Extremists aren't terrible things, as long as they act within the law. By having extremes on both sides, it's easier to ascertain the center.

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I like to consider myself just left of center. I am not a huge fan of extremism either. I also wasn't making the argument that PETA is a great organization, but rather one that has done some good. There are a lot of people in PETA that care and have tried to enact change in important areas. Apparently it somewhere has gone awry. I would guess it has a lot to do with Ingrid Newkirk and her extremism. Sounds a lot like another president I know of! :D

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Originally Posted by Otter_23

Try this link. Interesting reading.



http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/21

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wow... that is amazingly frightening in the worse way. hard to believe people actually send these people their money. :colbert:

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

wow... that is amazingly frightening in the worse way. hard to believe people actually send these people their money. :colbert:

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Just read this quote from that link. Not sure if it's legitimate, but if so... wow! :rolleye2:

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And in 2003, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk wrote to Yasser Arafat, pleading with him to make certain no animals are harmed in Palestinian suicide-bombing attacks.

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it's this quote:

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PETA devalues human life.

PETA's efforts to treasure every mosquito and cockroach invariably lead them to hate human beings for using bug spray and RAID. Ingrid Newkirk argues that as human beings, "we're the biggest blight on the face of the earth."

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which makes me wonder when PETA will start to advocate abortion and start killing pregnant mothers so they don't add to the population of the world.

and of course... this end of the article says much

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“I will be the last person to condemn ALF,” says Newkirk. And in another interview: “I find it small wonder that the laboratories aren’t all burning to the ground. If I had more guts, I’d light a match.” In ALF’s publication Bite Back (yes, this terrorist group has a newsletter), Newkirk has said: “You can’t have all politeness and patience, all potlucks and epistles … Some people will never budge unless [they are] pushed to budge.”

Perhaps Newkirk’s most telling comment, though, came in a 2002 U.S. News & World Report feature. “Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective,” she admitted. “We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works.”

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[QUOTE=Shelby]If you go to PeTA's website they tell you that they are against pet ownership, eating meat, drinking milk, eating honey, killing bugs, using leather, etc etc..

Anythign wrong with this? Go Peta

I do all of these things, why would I support them? If they had their way, there would be no captive ball pythons.. remember that.

If they had their way no animal would suffer(The GOOD peta who had their way that is).

QUOTE]Suffer huh? Yep, animals suffer alright. Like Aleesha said, there's nothing wrong with being vegan...however, all of those PETA people better not have ANY wood in their homes, their homes better not be made from any natural material, or manufactured material and they better not drive cars, use electricity, natural gas, or any type of oil that causes any kind of smoke.....
If they do or have ANY of these things....they're making animals suffer by destroying their habitats.....if we're going to get picky about how "good" PETA is. :)

PETA is so beyond hypocriticial it's mind boggling. They don't want animals to suffer and yet they don't take the time to make sure they don't suffer. If PETA wanted to do something "good" for animals....they should take some of that money and invest it in a spay/neuter program...world wide mind you....so that they wouldn't have to worry about having to "re home" shelter pets.