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Re: anyone have a childrens python?
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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles
Joe,
This was a misunderstanding that continues to esculate. When I put them up as "Australian Dwarf Pythons" my intention was to NOT sell them as any one species, such as the children's python, because I was unsure of the genetics. Looking back, yes.. I wish I put "unknown genetics", but that's hindsight. At the time, I did not feel I was being misleading. Since my intention was not to mislead, yet it turned out that way, it is a misunderstanding. Since there was a misunderstanding, the most professional thing I could do is make it good with cris. So I did.
I did NOT trade this as "Children's Pythons". I was asked if they were ALSO called childrens. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that cris was looking for care & husbandry information, so I said yes. Not to mislead, but to help her find some care sheets.
This is going on and on and on, not because of my intentions, but fueled by peoples dislike of 'hybrids'.
I do appriciate your open mindedness & honest, constructive comments, but at this point it is starting to get dirty in here with name calling so I am done here. For the record, using hindsight to guide me, I would indeed add some genetic info (or info related to the lack of it) just to avoid this misunderstanding in the future.
Sincerely,
Rick
I dont get where there was a MISUNDERSTANDING..i asked if they were aslo called Childrens Pythons..which belongs under the title of Australian dwarf Pythons, as does stimsons and spotted...u said there were Childrens...
Australian Dwarf Pythons:
Childrens
spotted
stimsons
3 DIFFERENT snakes...if u cross 2 of then then it is mixed and u cannot claim it to be one..and u knew they were mixed...they are not all the same snake..the names are not interchangeable amongst the 3
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Re: anyone have a childrens python?
I think everyone needs to just step back from this thread and take a deep breath.
For what it's worth, I really do think there was a genuine misunderstanding here. Just because you are clear on your own thoughts and intentions when you communicate something to someone else, doesn't mean they will take it or understand it in the same way. Which is why it's called a MISunderstanding. Yes...maybe Rick could have communicated some things better. But was he really out to rip anyone off or mislead them? I don't think so. I think the matter just hadn't ever come up with him before, so he hadn't had to deal with these sorts of questions about these particular species of snakes.
If you choose to let this incident change or determine your opinion of a particlar breeder...that's fine. But it really isn't necessary to keep beating it into the ground. Everyone has made their own points of view very clear....
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Re: anyone have a childrens python?
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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles
Again, since you did not read or comprehend my post. I sold them as Australian Dwarf Pythons. There are three snakes that fall within that category, as well as hybrids of any of these snakes.
These three species were concidered the same species until 1991, so ANY of those three species in the pet trade at that time were called Children's Pythons and they were all interbred as if they were the same species, because technically there were at that time. So unless your CB Children's or Spotted were imported after 1991, which is unlikely, you have no idea what "pure" is. In the pet trade the name 'children's python' is still commonly used for any of the three Australian Dwarf Pythons. Common names are unregulated. If they are used commonly within the pet trade, that is a valid common name.
This is fact as well as common sense.
I did not offer these for trade as spotted, I did not offer these as childrens. I traded them as Australian Dwarf Pythons because quite honestly, as stated above.. I have no idea which each is or what percentage they may be if they are hybrids. Do you? Or do you just assume to know? I did not want to 'assume' so I chose the safe route and offered them under the group of three species to which they belong.
The only mention of the name 'children's' was when asked if these could also be called children's while cris was looking for care information while trying to learn about them in the 24 hours prior to her saying she wanted them.
My reputation speaks for itself. The fact that I made the deal right by cris is a testament to that. I do not intentionally mislead people. If you want to make assumptions, by all means, feel free..
Rick Sisco
first, there are 4 antaresia species stimson,spotted childrens,anthill/pygmy. i know hundreds of resources including myself that have pure childrens so dont start saying that its not possible. stop with the 1991 talk, its not 1991 and you need to learn some more current events. a spotted python hatchling can go for about 80$ same with a childrens. a stimsons hatchling goes for about 100-150$. a anthill hatchling gos for 500+ and basicly by calling them australian dwarfs is fraud by all means. if you refuse to name them by scientific and/or common then i dont see much buisness for you. now if you please,tell me the SCIENTIFIC names of this pair :)
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