Suggestions on how to handle this

If he offers you a same weight/age male in trade, that is fair.

Offering an 07 male is a slap in the face. By the time you got the 07 male the 06 male you should have gotten would be breeding size and worth much more. Plus the 07 would probably be worth less than $400

I would say trading the female + cash for a male of similar weight, or selling the female, buying a male of similar size/weight and giving the extra cash back to the seller would be fair, but in this case that would definitely be going the extra mile, especially after how the seller handled this.




As far as Adam's post, I thought it was fairly straight forward. If you want to be guaranteed a smooth transaction, 100% satisfaction guaranteed, and no risk at your breeding plans being disrupted, then go with an established, larger breeder. If you had gone with a larger breeder, chances are they would have had an 06 male they could have offered back to you to make things right.

Of course you often pay more for this guarantee, but when you are dealing with expensive investments or pets, and are working on a breeding timeline, that is a choice you have to make for yourself.

This isn't to say smaller breeers are unreliable, but the majority of the time they will have less experience, less inventory for replacements, less room to flex when they need to make things right. I've experienced this firsthand, and learned the hard way. Even positive references are no guarantee if you arent dealing with established breeders who have been around.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I never should have contacted him. :mad:

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Contacting him was fine...Maybe he'll be more cautious when selling his animals.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I will offer to send $350 more to make up for it and that's it. It may sound harsh but that is my take it or leave it offer.

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Why? it was his mistake. If anything you did him a favor by letting him know it was a female and that he should be a little more sure when he sends the snake.

Maybe "I AM" Sounding harsh but...You have been feeding it, cleaning up after it and caring for it. Your heart is already involved lol...

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Originally Posted by Kizerk

if i was the breeder, i would just let you keep the ball, because it’s my own mistake,and I wouldn’t make my customers wait a couple of months to receive their animals, nor would I make them pay a couple hundreds more.

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couldn't have said it better...

If what I am about to say has already been siad feel free to remove it.
Heres my two cents worth. You Paid for a 06 Male and got an 06 female because the breeder made a mistake. Hey mistakes happen no biggie. But you paid for an 06 if you ship the snake back then he should discount the 07 male cause you paid for an 06 you didn't get and pay the shipping. Thats option one if you don't mind waiting and having a younger snkae. Or Option two, If he has no more 06 males then the least he can do is allow you to keep the female and take the loss, bad for the breeder.
The way he has it now your paying for shipping again to send the animal back to him and paying for a younger animal. Or paying for an animal that you didn't want by giving him the differance. Both of his options put you at a severe disadvantage. You paid to have the 06 male shipped once $45.00 then your paying to send the snake back $45.00. Thats 90.00 to ship a snake you don't get to keep he said that he would pay to have the new snake shipped to you. :colbert: the shipping should be paid by him both ways for old and new animal. See if he'll work with you one this.

He is trying to get the most out of this he can. Be Careful

Just my two cents

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

If he offers you a same weight/age male in trade, that is fair.

Offering an 07 male is a slap in the face. By the time you got the 07 male the 06 male you should have gotten would be breeding size and worth much more. Plus the 07 would probably be worth less than $400

I would say trading the female + cash for a male of similar weight, or selling the female, buying a male of similar size/weight and giving the extra cash back to the seller would be fair, but in this case that would definitely be going the extra mile, especially after how the seller handled this.




As far as Adam's post, I thought it was fairly straight forward. If you want to be guaranteed a smooth transaction, 100% satisfaction guaranteed, and no risk at your breeding plans being disrupted, then go with an established, larger breeder. If you had gone with a larger breeder, chances are they would have had an 06 male they could have offered back to you to make things right.

Of course you often pay more for this guarantee, but when you are dealing with expensive investments or pets, and are working on a breeding timeline, that is a choice you have to make for yourself.

This isn't to say smaller breeers are unreliable, but the majority of the time they will have less experience, less inventory for replacements, less room to flex when they need to make things right. I've experienced this firsthand, and learned the hard way. Even positive references are no guarantee if you arent dealing with established breeders who have been around.

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Thats a good way of putting it.
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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

As far as Adam's post, I thought it was fairly straight forward. If you want to be guaranteed a smooth transaction, 100% satisfaction guaranteed, and no risk at your breeding plans being disrupted, then go with an established, larger breeder. If you had gone with a larger breeder, chances are they would have had an 06 male they could have offered back to you to make things right.

Of course you often pay more for this guarantee, but when you are dealing with expensive investments or pets, and are working on a breeding timeline, that is a choice you have to make for yourself.

This isn't to say smaller breeers are unreliable, but the majority of the time they will have less experience, less inventory for replacements, less room to flex when they need to make things right. I've experienced this firsthand, and learned the hard way. Even positive references are no guarantee if you arent dealing with established breeders who have been around.

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-adam

his mistake...if it was me i`d keep her to be honest...tell him to stick the cash diffrence where the sun dont shine!

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Originally Posted by veedubz

his mistake...if it was me i`d keep her to be honest...tell him to stick the cash diffrence where the sun dont shine!

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Well to be fair he did not pay for the female. Yes it was the breeders mistake but this is their business. We can just Stick it to everyone that makes a mistake. An I think their better people than that to just say " well tough Luck pay more attention next time". But the breeder should at lease offer him a couple of better options than he did.

You are totally in the right to keep the animal without paying any more. The breeder made a mistake (and a stupid one as how he was determining sex) and has to deal with it.

I say this is a good lesson when buying from breeders. So many people always hear "buy from a breeder" and assume that they all know what they are doing. Whenever buying a sexed snake, I'd ask about how it was determined, and what their policy is when a snake turnes out to be wrongly sexed.

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

As far as Adam's post, I thought it was fairly straight forward. If you want to be guaranteed a smooth transaction, 100% satisfaction guaranteed, and no risk at your breeding plans being disrupted, then go with an established, larger breeder. If you had gone with a larger breeder, chances are they would have had an 06 male they could have offered back to you to make things right.

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Big breeder, small breeder... I don't think it matters that much in many circumstances. There is a lot of confusion out there and many people probably wouldn't know a NERD or PKR from an MKR or TSE. The best thing for any buyer to do is to ask questions, get references and do their homework. I certainly wouldn't pass up a quality snake from a reputable small breeder just to go with snake I wasn't that crazy about from a big name breeder.